Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 21:30     Subject: Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saw this online today and it made me sad that those kids had to witness these adults act this way.

On one hand I get that you don’t want your condo pool treated like a public pool, but on the other hand, aren’t your neighbors allowed to have guests so long as their responsible for those guests? Also it was clearly a little party, so why call the police?

https://www.facebook.com/513952451/posts/10156554871427452?s=647595591&sfns=mo

I also wonder if Montgo Police should have been asking the complainant to provide proof of the bylaws instead of the people making hamburgers.


Of course you call the police in a case like this.

Why?
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 21:29     Subject: Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you listen to the video its unclear if those hosting the party even lived there. They didn't have the bylaws which is odd as you'd get them when you purchase or should have easy access.

Why would you have a copy in your when you’re trying to cook and serve hamburgers to your guests? You just keep yours with you at all times like a drivers license?


They should have it in their condo. The police officers asked for it, they declined to produce it so the officers said they'd wait to get it from a property manager as soon as they get there. I would keep it in my paperwork. I would also know and follow the rules.

They don’t have the burden of proof the complainant does.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 21:25     Subject: Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you listen to the video its unclear if those hosting the party even lived there. They didn't have the bylaws which is odd as you'd get them when you purchase or should have easy access.

Why would you have a copy in your when you’re trying to cook and serve hamburgers to your guests? You just keep yours with you at all times like a drivers license?


They should have it in their condo. The police officers asked for it, they declined to produce it so the officers said they'd wait to get it from a property manager as soon as they get there. I would keep it in my paperwork. I would also know and follow the rules.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 21:23     Subject: Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you listen to the video its unclear if those hosting the party even lived there. They didn't have the bylaws which is odd as you'd get them when you purchase or should have easy access.

Why would you have a copy on you when you’re trying to cook and serve hamburgers to your guests? You just keep yours with you at all times like a drivers license?

Edited to fix typos.


DP here. No of course not. But our HOA sends out multiple email reminders throughout the summer of the pools rules and people still act like they haven’t read them/don’t care. (Hello, no music without headphones! I have to tell someone this every damn time I go to the pool. And they all act confused like they have no idea why this would be a rule.)
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 21:23     Subject: Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:Saw this online today and it made me sad that those kids had to witness these adults act this way.

On one hand I get that you don’t want your condo pool treated like a public pool, but on the other hand, aren’t your neighbors allowed to have guests so long as their responsible for those guests? Also it was clearly a little party, so why call the police?

https://www.facebook.com/513952451/posts/10156554871427452?s=647595591&sfns=mo

I also wonder if Montgo Police should have been asking the complainant to provide proof of the bylaws instead of the people making hamburgers.


Of course you call the police in a case like this.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 21:14     Subject: Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you listen to the video its unclear if those hosting the party even lived there. They didn't have the bylaws which is odd as you'd get them when you purchase or should have easy access.

Why would you have a copy on you when you’re trying to cook and serve hamburgers to your guests? You just keep yours with you at all times like a drivers license?

Edited to fix typos.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 21:12     Subject: Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:If you listen to the video its unclear if those hosting the party even lived there. They didn't have the bylaws which is odd as you'd get them when you purchase or should have easy access.

Why would you have a copy in your when you’re trying to cook and serve hamburgers to your guests? You just keep yours with you at all times like a drivers license?
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 20:26     Subject: Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

If you listen to the video its unclear if those hosting the party even lived there. They didn't have the bylaws which is odd as you'd get them when you purchase or should have easy access.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 20:19     Subject: Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:Saw this online today and it made me sad that those kids had to witness these adults act this way.

On one hand I get that you don’t want your condo pool treated like a public pool, but on the other hand, aren’t your neighbors allowed to have guests so long as their responsible for those guests? Also it was clearly a little party, so why call the police?

https://www.facebook.com/513952451/posts/10156554871427452?s=647595591&sfns=mo

I also wonder if Montgo Police should have been asking the complainant to provide proof of the bylaws instead of the people making hamburgers.


That’s way too many guests. At our HOA it’s a 1:1 ratio. So a member family of 4 can only bring 4 guests at any time (and there is a nominal fee per guest.)
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 17:33     Subject: Re:Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I clicked on the link and was surprised that I know who the woman who called the police is. I went to high school with her. No idea what has happened over the past 20 years or so, but a lot of her friends in high school were POC and from what I can see from her Facebook these days that is still the case. I haven't talked to her in person for over 20 years, so who knows what the situation is but I know that she never had stellar communication skills, so her approach was probably not great off the bat and then it most likely escalated to calling the police for whatever reason. Of course there's always a chance it was motivated by racism, but that wouldn't be my gut feeling in this situation.


You haven't seen this woman in 20 years. Who someone was in high school isn't a fair representation. You probably barely talked to her in high school and from your post were probably a mean girl to her.


So you're saying you'd rather just assume a stranger is a racist based off of a social media post rather than taking the word of someone who actually knew her at some point in her life and has access to her current social media? And where do you get mean girl from this post? Are you sure you actually comprehend what the poster wrote?


That poster was taking a dig about her and her friends in high school. To say you know her and she was never racist is one thing but to take a dig about her in high school was unnecessary.


Do you know what POC means? POC = people of color. Does the post make more sense to you now?



NP - but I don't see why this is an act of racism.


That’s the entire point.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 17:14     Subject: Re:Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I clicked on the link and was surprised that I know who the woman who called the police is. I went to high school with her. No idea what has happened over the past 20 years or so, but a lot of her friends in high school were POC and from what I can see from her Facebook these days that is still the case. I haven't talked to her in person for over 20 years, so who knows what the situation is but I know that she never had stellar communication skills, so her approach was probably not great off the bat and then it most likely escalated to calling the police for whatever reason. Of course there's always a chance it was motivated by racism, but that wouldn't be my gut feeling in this situation.


You haven't seen this woman in 20 years. Who someone was in high school isn't a fair representation. You probably barely talked to her in high school and from your post were probably a mean girl to her.


So you're saying you'd rather just assume a stranger is a racist based off of a social media post rather than taking the word of someone who actually knew her at some point in her life and has access to her current social media? And where do you get mean girl from this post? Are you sure you actually comprehend what the poster wrote?


That poster was taking a dig about her and her friends in high school. To say you know her and she was never racist is one thing but to take a dig about her in high school was unnecessary.


Do you know what POC means? POC = people of color. Does the post make more sense to you now?



NP - but I don't see why this is an act of racism.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 17:13     Subject: Re:Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

I am sorry but even if the caller was completely right - why not just take pictures/video - or have the lifeguard verify the number of guests and take it up with the condo board later. Why would you ever het the police involved????? In the video the party hosts seemed very respectful and handled the situation as best they could although you could tell the interactions were stressing them out. In the comments to the FB post it said her friend was not cited for any HOA violation after the fact - if that’s correct I feel bad their party was ruined by this busy body.
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 16:45     Subject: Re:Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I clicked on the link and was surprised that I know who the woman who called the police is. I went to high school with her. No idea what has happened over the past 20 years or so, but a lot of her friends in high school were POC and from what I can see from her Facebook these days that is still the case. I haven't talked to her in person for over 20 years, so who knows what the situation is but I know that she never had stellar communication skills, so her approach was probably not great off the bat and then it most likely escalated to calling the police for whatever reason. Of course there's always a chance it was motivated by racism, but that wouldn't be my gut feeling in this situation.


You haven't seen this woman in 20 years. Who someone was in high school isn't a fair representation. You probably barely talked to her in high school and from your post were probably a mean girl to her.


So you're saying you'd rather just assume a stranger is a racist based off of a social media post rather than taking the word of someone who actually knew her at some point in her life and has access to her current social media? And where do you get mean girl from this post? Are you sure you actually comprehend what the poster wrote?


That poster was taking a dig about her and her friends in high school. To say you know her and she was never racist is one thing but to take a dig about her in high school was unnecessary.


Do you know what POC means? POC = people of color. Does the post make more sense to you now?
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 16:43     Subject: Re:Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So I clicked on the link and was surprised that I know who the woman who called the police is. I went to high school with her. No idea what has happened over the past 20 years or so, but a lot of her friends in high school were POC and from what I can see from her Facebook these days that is still the case. I haven't talked to her in person for over 20 years, so who knows what the situation is but I know that she never had stellar communication skills, so her approach was probably not great off the bat and then it most likely escalated to calling the police for whatever reason. Of course there's always a chance it was motivated by racism, but that wouldn't be my gut feeling in this situation.


You haven't seen this woman in 20 years. Who someone was in high school isn't a fair representation. You probably barely talked to her in high school and from your post were probably a mean girl to her.


So you're saying you'd rather just assume a stranger is a racist based off of a social media post rather than taking the word of someone who actually knew her at some point in her life and has access to her current social media? And where do you get mean girl from this post? Are you sure you actually comprehend what the poster wrote?


That poster was taking a dig about her and her friends in high school. To say you know her and she was never racist is one thing but to take a dig about her in high school was unnecessary.


OK, here's what I got from the post:

* in high school the caller had a lot of friends who were POC
* from the caller's current social media it appears that the caller still has lots of friends who are POC
* the caller didn't have great communication skills in high school, so PP is speculating that maybe her approach to the people having the pool party wasn't 100% friendly and that it could have escalated the situation

Where is the dig about her and her friends in high school? I don't see it?
Anonymous
Post 08/04/2019 16:41     Subject: Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why the police were trying to sort out a bylaw issue.


Exactly. This never ends well for the police. Are these people trespassing? Can you find anyone who wants to pursue trespassing? I.e. an agent of the condo? If the answer is no to any of these, drive off.