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Anonymous wrote:I’m 52. I don’t look 42. I am perfectly happy aging gracefully. No way would I have toxins injected into my face. First, everyone I know who does, looks perpetually surprised. I would hate to look like that. And second, I have no desire to look younger than I am. I want to look like a strong, fit, healthy 52 year old woman. Because that’s what I am.

And other people want to look good. Because that’s their thing and Botox helps with that. Look at Nicole Kidman-she’s gorgeous in her 50’s because of injectables. She looks fake but undeniably beautiful.

For some of us, looking fake is never beautiful. I find people chasing their youth very sad. I find it sad that you believe you must look 20 to "look good". That is so F-d up. I understand why actresses do it but so sad that they have to do it and people like you reinforce to the movie, tv etc. industries that this is what people want.

We need to shift the whole culture and stop thinking that people who look older are "gross" or "sad" or "have given up" and should hide away from society.

The more we show real people with real faces and real bodies instead of photoshopped BS and cosmetically-altered faces, the better off all of us will be.

Anonymous wrote:I’m 52. I don’t look 42. I am perfectly happy aging gracefully. No way would I have toxins injected into my face. First, everyone I know who does, looks perpetually surprised. I would hate to look like that. And second, I have no desire to look younger than I am. I want to look like a strong, fit, healthy 52 year old woman. Because that’s what I am.

And other people want to look good. Because that’s their thing and Botox helps with that. Look at Nicole Kidman-she’s gorgeous in her 50’s because of injectables. She looks fake but undeniably beautiful.

And second, I have no desire to look younger than I am. I want to look like a strong, fit, healthy 52 year old woman

Hmm. I'm 43 and I don't think the botox I use on my forehead lines makes me look younger. I have a 32 year old (male) coworker that has really pronounced horizontal forehead lines, an he doesn't look older - just like he has forehead lines. I don't like mine, and I can afford Botox without stress, so I use it. But I don't really think about it much. Sometimes 6 months will pass and I'll forget to do it. No big deal.

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Anonymous wrote:eh - you'd be surprised all of you who claim to not know anyone who does fillers and botox. if you knew me you'd never in a million years think i did it - i wear no makeup, let my hair air dry and dress slightly slobbish (according to my husband - who also doesn't know about my secret trips to the derm) also i don't do botox around my eyes so they still crinkle quite a bit when i smile.

Your big problem is that you have to do "secret" trips to the derm.

Who are you people who hide stuff from your DHs? That is so weird.

She is obviously embarrassed to tell her husband or else he is controlling.

This is the norm amongst my mom and her friends. They sort of "know" but not fully because they're all hippies and intellectually think it's vapid. But they're vain enough to hit up the derm before a big wedding or something. Husbands not controlling, just either a "don't ask, don't tell" policy or kind of roll their eyes.

I get that, but aside from my 3x/year hair coloring or medical expenses (tests, etc...) we do not go out and spend $500 without discussing it with the other spouse first! I can't imagine.

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Anonymous wrote:And the claws come out again...this is the thread that keeps on giving.

Indeed. People put a LOT of their shit on Botox for some reason.

Because it's expensive to keep up. People are envious. I am!

Anonymous wrote:I’m 52. I don’t look 42. I am perfectly happy aging gracefully. No way would I have toxins injected into my face. First, everyone I know who does, looks perpetually surprised. I would hate to look like that. And second, I have no desire to look younger than I am. I want to look like a strong, fit, healthy 52 year old woman. Because that’s what I am.

Bravo. I am right there with you.

I’m 52. I don’t look 42. I am perfectly happy aging gracefully. No way would I have toxins injected into my face. First, everyone I know who does, looks perpetually surprised. I would hate to look like that. And second, I have no desire to look younger than I am. I want to look like a strong, fit, healthy 52 year old woman. Because that’s what I am.

I agree a lot of people are doing it that don't "look" like the type. My sister in Ohio colors her own hair, works out at a local rec center (ie not the fancy hot yoga/pilates boutique places), paints her own nails and has worn make up maybe 6x in her adult life. I noticed a "brilliant distinctions" app on her phone and she told me she's been going twice a year for 6 years now. Never had a clue. She looks great but I thought it was the stress free midwest lifestyle lol! (and her being generally thin but not too thin if that makes sense)

Anonymous wrote:And the claws come out again...this is the thread that keeps on giving.

Indeed. People put a LOT of their shit on Botox for some reason.

And the claws come out again...this is the thread that keeps on giving.

Anonymous wrote:My husband isn’t controlling, but he would upset if at 35 I decided to spend thousands of dollars per yr at the derm to get rid of tiny lines in my face. He would absolutely think that was vain and ridiculous. So yeah, if I were to do it (which I wouldn’t bc I also think it is vain and ridiculous) I wouldn’t mention it to him.

So you're both judgmental and self-righteous. Got it.

What I don't get is WTF does anyone care? It doesn't affect your husband's life if you do it. If you truly can't afford it, then ok, you shouldn't be doing it. But otherwise, one person's vain is another person's thing that makes them feel better about themselves. Have you ever colored or permed your hair? Worn makeup on a regular basis? Removed body hair at a professional salon? Because I guarantee all of that has added up to many thousands over your lifetime.

58. Not really.

The women I know who do this have a Frankensteinish look about them. No thanks.

My husband isn’t controlling, but he would upset if at 35 I decided to spend thousands of dollars per yr at the derm to get rid of tiny lines in my face. He would absolutely think that was vain and ridiculous. So yeah, if I were to do it (which I wouldn’t bc I also think it is vain and ridiculous) I wouldn’t mention it to him.

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Anonymous wrote:eh - you'd be surprised all of you who claim to not know anyone who does fillers and botox. if you knew me you'd never in a million years think i did it - i wear no makeup, let my hair air dry and dress slightly slobbish (according to my husband - who also doesn't know about my secret trips to the derm) also i don't do botox around my eyes so they still crinkle quite a bit when i smile.

Your big problem is that you have to do "secret" trips to the derm.

Who are you people who hide stuff from your DHs? That is so weird.

She is obviously embarrassed to tell her husband or else he is controlling.

This is the norm amongst my mom and her friends. They sort of "know" but not fully because they're all hippies and intellectually think it's vapid. But they're vain enough to hit up the derm before a big wedding or something. Husbands not controlling, just either a "don't ask, don't tell" policy or kind of roll their eyes.