Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 21:31     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, he is not going to get reelected. Every time he gives one of these disgusting speeches he whips his sweaty followers into a frenzy - and turns more people away. Every one of these speeches may as well be a Democratic GOTV effort. We should be paying him to give more of these speeches, because every single one of them makes us more likely to win.

He's not winning anyone new with this dangerous, disgusting schtick.


+1.

USA Today poll:

68% believe Trump’s tweets were offensive
59% believe Trump’s tweets are “un-American”
65% believe what Trump said is racist, including a plurality of Republicans (45-34%)

These polls mean nothing. Some people may not agree with what he says , but they still support him.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 21:30     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, he is not going to get reelected. Every time he gives one of these disgusting speeches he whips his sweaty followers into a frenzy - and turns more people away. Every one of these speeches may as well be a Democratic GOTV effort. We should be paying him to give more of these speeches, because every single one of them makes us more likely to win.

He's not winning anyone new with this dangerous, disgusting schtick.

One would hope so, but too many Americans are blind to Trump's deplorableness -- I know that's not a real word.


Yeah. We are a country founded on racism. Some people are still arguing over the Civil War.

But he does not have a big base. He won by a hair last time. He has not - by any account I've seen - picked up new support. We just need to turn out more people this time, and we win. And I think - I believe - these horrific fascist rallies help ensure that there will be more turnout to vote against him.

I could be wrong! I could be very wrong. But I just don't see how this wins him new voters. It's the same gross schtick from before. It's incredibly polarizing. People who love it love it - but there are a lot of people who don't, and who are just tired of this sh*t.

maybe I am just a pessimist, but I just don't have a good feeling about it. Dem leaders haven't done a good job of muffling the far left which is a turn off to most Dems, who are largely not far left. The fringe of the far left are too loud, like the fringe of the far right. It's drowning out moderates.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 21:29     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:No, he is not going to get reelected. Every time he gives one of these disgusting speeches he whips his sweaty followers into a frenzy - and turns more people away. Every one of these speeches may as well be a Democratic GOTV effort. We should be paying him to give more of these speeches, because every single one of them makes us more likely to win.

He's not winning anyone new with this dangerous, disgusting schtick.


+1.

USA Today poll:

68% believe Trump’s tweets were offensive
59% believe Trump’s tweets are “un-American”
65% believe what Trump said is racist, including a plurality of Republicans (45-34%)
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 21:28     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, he is not going to get reelected. Every time he gives one of these disgusting speeches he whips his sweaty followers into a frenzy - and turns more people away. Every one of these speeches may as well be a Democratic GOTV effort. We should be paying him to give more of these speeches, because every single one of them makes us more likely to win.

He's not winning anyone new with this dangerous, disgusting schtick.

One would hope so, but too many Americans are blind to Trump's deplorableness -- I know that's not a real word.


Yeah. We are a country founded on racism. Some people are still arguing over the Civil War.

But he does not have a big base. He won by a hair last time. He has not - by any account I've seen - picked up new support. We just need to turn out more people this time, and we win. And I think - I believe - these horrific fascist rallies help ensure that there will be more turnout to vote against him.

I could be wrong! I could be very wrong. But I just don't see how this wins him new voters. It's the same gross schtick from before. It's incredibly polarizing. People who love it love it - but there are a lot of people who don't, and who are just tired of this sh*t.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 21:23     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:No, he is not going to get reelected. Every time he gives one of these disgusting speeches he whips his sweaty followers into a frenzy - and turns more people away. Every one of these speeches may as well be a Democratic GOTV effort. We should be paying him to give more of these speeches, because every single one of them makes us more likely to win.

He's not winning anyone new with this dangerous, disgusting schtick.

One would hope so, but too many Americans are blind to Trump's deplorableness -- I know that's not a real word.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 21:21     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden or Warren


Biden Pres/Warren V.P.? Could work. That's about the only combination that will (IMHO).


True. Or get Romney in our side and do Biden/Romney . Get some Republicans to dump Trump.

Romney will never be a Dem. There aren't enough Rs who are willing to dump trump. I am an Independent, former R, and I switched to R during the primaries to vote for someone other than Trump. I am going to do that again, but I don't think there are enough R to not vote for trump in the primaries. We need the Independents -- PA, WI, MI...

And yes we need moderate candidates, not super progressive liberals.

I thought Biden was supposed to be the one who could beat Trump?
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 21:16     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

No, he is not going to get reelected. Every time he gives one of these disgusting speeches he whips his sweaty followers into a frenzy - and turns more people away. Every one of these speeches may as well be a Democratic GOTV effort. We should be paying him to give more of these speeches, because every single one of them makes us more likely to win.

He's not winning anyone new with this dangerous, disgusting schtick.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 21:12     Subject: Re:Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Yep. He's going to get re-elected. Next topic?
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 21:11     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden or Warren


Biden Pres/Warren V.P.? Could work. That's about the only combination that will (IMHO).

I think people have amnesia regarding Biden. He’s got an Obama halo but if he has to stand on his own, his negatives will come back to the fore.


So who's better and can win the general?

Harris Warren, Warren Harris. I don’t understand the Stockholm Syndrome among the Democrats in which we just believe whatever crap the corporate mainstream media and the gop tells us. Neither Warren nor Harris nor most of the democratic candidates are at all far left and much of America supports some sort of government healthcare for all option, doing something about tuition, doing something about the environment, etc.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 21:06     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden or Warren


Biden Pres/Warren V.P.? Could work. That's about the only combination that will (IMHO).


True. Or get Romney in our side and do Biden/Romney . Get some Republicans to dump Trump.


I hate to tell you this but this isn't a two party system where one is as racist and gross as possible, and the other aspires to be the lite version. Democrats are not going to vote for Romney.

Clean your own house. You hear the chants going on at the Trump rally tonight? He's got his stupid followers chanting "send her back" = guess that's the new "lock her up"


I am a Democrat who would vote for Romney if he switched parties. I want Trump out. If Romney or some moderate R went D or I and joined Dem ticket as VP I would vote. Just no more dogs on the car roof.

I’m never voting for a GOP candidate or former GOP candidate ever again. Never ever. Ever. Romney was as pitiful as any of them, begging for a job for Donald.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 20:58     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden or Warren


Biden Pres/Warren V.P.? Could work. That's about the only combination that will (IMHO).


True. Or get Romney in our side and do Biden/Romney . Get some Republicans to dump Trump.


I hate to tell you this but this isn't a two party system where one is as racist and gross as possible, and the other aspires to be the lite version. Democrats are not going to vote for Romney.

Clean your own house. You hear the chants going on at the Trump rally tonight? He's got his stupid followers chanting "send her back" = guess that's the new "lock her up"


I am a Democrat who would vote for Romney if he switched parties. I want Trump out. If Romney or some moderate R went D or I and joined Dem ticket as VP I would vote. Just no more dogs on the car roof.


Romney is not switching parties. It's time to stop with this childish fantasy and actually get serious about getting Trump out of office. You get to pick among the Democrats who are running, or you are picking Trump.


Biden/Warren


I'd be great with that. Though I suspect Biden needs someone younger and probably not white on his ticket.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 20:56     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden or Warren


Biden Pres/Warren V.P.? Could work. That's about the only combination that will (IMHO).


True. Or get Romney in our side and do Biden/Romney . Get some Republicans to dump Trump.


I hate to tell you this but this isn't a two party system where one is as racist and gross as possible, and the other aspires to be the lite version. Democrats are not going to vote for Romney.

Clean your own house. You hear the chants going on at the Trump rally tonight? He's got his stupid followers chanting "send her back" = guess that's the new "lock her up"


I am a Democrat who would vote for Romney if he switched parties. I want Trump out. If Romney or some moderate R went D or I and joined Dem ticket as VP I would vote. Just no more dogs on the car roof.


Romney is not switching parties. It's time to stop with this childish fantasy and actually get serious about getting Trump out of office. You get to pick among the Democrats who are running, or you are picking Trump.


Biden/Warren
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 20:33     Subject: Re:Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So the columnist is basically wishing for a new and improved version of Hillary to reappear? Why? The country has moved left. It’s not 1993 anymore, Tom. Dude is stuck in the 90s Heck, even the suburban white womens of Ashburn and places like that are forever blue voters now. And not surprising: they know that a form of progressive socialism will be good news for their sons.


? Virginia has been blue a long time. He's talking about winning back Mi, WI, & PA.


Never said he wasn’t. It’s an analogy. There’s not much difference between Ashburn and the midwestern hellholes you mention.


Please keep saying this kind of thing. It lets people know you think exactly like they already believed you did, even as you were pretending to be better.


And these people were beside themselves when Trump called third world countries “shitholes.”
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 20:27     Subject: Re:Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:So the columnist is basically wishing for a new and improved version of Hillary to reappear? Why? The country has moved left. It’s not 1993 anymore, Tom. Dude is stuck in the 90s Heck, even the suburban white womens of Ashburn and places like that are forever blue voters now. And not surprising: they know that a form of progressive socialism will be good news for their sons.


That you actually believe this idiocy just shows how well and truly out of touch you are. Good luck.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 20:27     Subject: Friedman column--Trump's Going to Get Re-Elected, Isn't He?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden or Warren


Biden Pres/Warren V.P.? Could work. That's about the only combination that will (IMHO).


True. Or get Romney in our side and do Biden/Romney . Get some Republicans to dump Trump.


I hate to tell you this but this isn't a two party system where one is as racist and gross as possible, and the other aspires to be the lite version. Democrats are not going to vote for Romney.

Clean your own house. You hear the chants going on at the Trump rally tonight? He's got his stupid followers chanting "send her back" = guess that's the new "lock her up"


I am a Democrat who would vote for Romney if he switched parties. I want Trump out. If Romney or some moderate R went D or I and joined Dem ticket as VP I would vote. Just no more dogs on the car roof.


Romney is not switching parties. It's time to stop with this childish fantasy and actually get serious about getting Trump out of office. You get to pick among the Democrats who are running, or you are picking Trump.