Anonymous
Post 07/21/2019 19:20     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

I’d rather protect due process than the orchestra.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2019 18:38     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

They should switch the style of music so more people would come. Bluegrass, blues, rock or R&B would get more interest from public.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2019 18:33     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

Anonymous wrote:
+1

Especially when there is a limited amount of money available for County services. Why does the County decide that paying for this is more important than paying to support the arts?


Oh my goodness. Cry me a river. The question is not arts vs immigrants. It's unsustainable established arts organization versus more money for arts organizations that are managed more responsibly.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2019 20:55     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would have a lot more support for the orchestra, and would have loved to have gone to see them, if I had ever known they existed!


Do you have kids in school in MCPS?

The 2nd grade trip to see them is always a hit.


No I do not have kids in school.


It was a mistake to only reach out to second graders; I mean, that's great, but they also needed to reach out to adults who could have supported them.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2019 18:21     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would have a lot more support for the orchestra, and would have loved to have gone to see them, if I had ever known they existed!


Do you have kids in school in MCPS?

The 2nd grade trip to see them is always a hit.


No I do not have kids in school.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2019 18:03     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

Anonymous wrote:I would have a lot more support for the orchestra, and would have loved to have gone to see them, if I had ever known they existed!


Do you have kids in school in MCPS?

The 2nd grade trip to see them is always a hit.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2019 16:55     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

I would have a lot more support for the orchestra, and would have loved to have gone to see them, if I had ever known they existed!
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 12:22     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

If the Symphony played Latin American music exclusively they would have been funded regardless of the stated concerns
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 11:42     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

Anonymous wrote:17:56 is right. And there are additional contributing factors (like the shutdown, the construction, a couple of individuals on the Council who have decided they're done supporting the National Phil, some leadership challenges and transitions at the Phil, some basic interpersonal/human interactions gone wrong, etc...)

The dollars it would take to close the gap now are really quite small. The larger issues in the rent/funding model and the dynamics between the county and the Phil are more challenging.

The loss to the community is quite substantial - through the 2nd grade music program, the youth summer choral and string institutes, the "all kids free" ticket program, the orchestral musicians who now need to find other income generators, the hundreds of musicians (volunteer and paid) who are without a musical home now (and bereft of the opportunity to perform in the beautiful hall), and on and on...

I am a part of the National Phil musical family, I am a longtime donor, I'm a parent and taxpayer in MoCo and I am crushed and dismayed by this failure to find a way to make things work.


+1

Agree with all of this, though I am not part of any kind of ‘musical’ family. Wish they could have come up with a solution.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 09:16     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

For local folks who would like to urge the Council to find a way:

SHOW UP IN SUPPORT OF THE NATIONAL PHILHARMONIC THIS MONDAY AT THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES COMMITTEE OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY (AHCMC) MEETING

Monday, July 22nd at 2PM
7th Floor Hearing Room
100 Maryland Ave
Rockville, MD 20850
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2019 09:14     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

17:56 is right. And there are additional contributing factors (like the shutdown, the construction, a couple of individuals on the Council who have decided they're done supporting the National Phil, some leadership challenges and transitions at the Phil, some basic interpersonal/human interactions gone wrong, etc...)

The dollars it would take to close the gap now are really quite small. The larger issues in the rent/funding model and the dynamics between the county and the Phil are more challenging.

The loss to the community is quite substantial - through the 2nd grade music program, the youth summer choral and string institutes, the "all kids free" ticket program, the orchestral musicians who now need to find other income generators, the hundreds of musicians (volunteer and paid) who are without a musical home now (and bereft of the opportunity to perform in the beautiful hall), and on and on...

I am a part of the National Phil musical family, I am a longtime donor, I'm a parent and taxpayer in MoCo and I am crushed and dismayed by this failure to find a way to make things work.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2019 17:41     Subject: National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

Ok, that explains a lot pp! I never knew Strathmore had all these performances, if I had I might have gone there by now. I've only seen the expensive groups advertised. Thanks pp.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2019 07:25     Subject: Re:National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

Anonymous wrote:I know a fair amount about this. This is Strathmore's fault. They raised the rent on NPO by over $200k a year ago. It's around $500k now. NPO, being an orchestra, needs to use that space for practices and performances, since there aren't really any suitable places nearby for an orchestra to practice. They can't easily go elsewhere.

Strathmore got greedy by almost doubling the rent, and NPO couldn't make it work. Strathmore didn't support them either -- if you went to Strathmore's site, the NPO performances were not advertised, because Strathmore treated them just like a renter. Same like the Peppa Pig shows there -- they're in Strathmore, but Peppa (err.. Daddy Pig I suppose?) sold the tickets on their own and advertised the events on their own.

The problem (and NPO also bears some of the blame) is that both are non-profits and the rental deal placed all the risk on NPO. Instead, the should have struck a revenue-sharing deal, like NPO pays no rent, but Strathmore gets 30% of all ticket proceeds, and agrees to market and advertise too. This way, both sides share risk, and both sides win when NPO does well.

Instead, Stathmore has lost both the BSO (Baltimore Symphony Orchestra) and NPO.


This is an extremely reasonable and fact-based post. Are you sure you are on the right site?

Genuinely, thanks PP. That makes a ton of sense and explains why I only saw NPO advertisements when they were passed around by email.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2019 07:01     Subject: Re:National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

Anonymous wrote:I know a fair amount about this. This is Strathmore's fault. They raised the rent on NPO by over $200k a year ago. It's around $500k now. NPO, being an orchestra, needs to use that space for practices and performances, since there aren't really any suitable places nearby for an orchestra to practice. They can't easily go elsewhere.

Strathmore got greedy by almost doubling the rent, and NPO couldn't make it work. Strathmore didn't support them either -- if you went to Strathmore's site, the NPO performances were not advertised, because Strathmore treated them just like a renter. Same like the Peppa Pig shows there -- they're in Strathmore, but Peppa (err.. Daddy Pig I suppose?) sold the tickets on their own and advertised the events on their own.

The problem (and NPO also bears some of the blame) is that both are non-profits and the rental deal placed all the risk on NPO. Instead, the should have struck a revenue-sharing deal, like NPO pays no rent, but Strathmore gets 30% of all ticket proceeds, and agrees to market and advertise too. This way, both sides share risk, and both sides win when NPO does well.

Instead, Stathmore has lost both the BSO (Baltimore Symphony Orchestra) and NPO.


The Strathmore can’t balance its budget either.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2019 17:56     Subject: Re:National Philharmonic to Close - Thanks to MoCo County Council!

I know a fair amount about this. This is Strathmore's fault. They raised the rent on NPO by over $200k a year ago. It's around $500k now. NPO, being an orchestra, needs to use that space for practices and performances, since there aren't really any suitable places nearby for an orchestra to practice. They can't easily go elsewhere.

Strathmore got greedy by almost doubling the rent, and NPO couldn't make it work. Strathmore didn't support them either -- if you went to Strathmore's site, the NPO performances were not advertised, because Strathmore treated them just like a renter. Same like the Peppa Pig shows there -- they're in Strathmore, but Peppa (err.. Daddy Pig I suppose?) sold the tickets on their own and advertised the events on their own.

The problem (and NPO also bears some of the blame) is that both are non-profits and the rental deal placed all the risk on NPO. Instead, the should have struck a revenue-sharing deal, like NPO pays no rent, but Strathmore gets 30% of all ticket proceeds, and agrees to market and advertise too. This way, both sides share risk, and both sides win when NPO does well.

Instead, Stathmore has lost both the BSO (Baltimore Symphony Orchestra) and NPO.