Omg this is heartbreaking. What about the couple in NY praying for them. Why does the article focus mostly on the LA couple? I guess the other couples want anonymity. LA couple does not come across as very sympathetic.

There needs to be stricter rules and stronger guidelines around IVF.

I agree as someone that suffered IF I wouldn’t want the other mother to suffer yet as someone that did have success getting pregnant and carrying to a baby I can’t fathom Asian couples’ pain and loss. It’s incomprehensible. They deserve all the money and free IVF and surrogacy. Hopefully being pregnant primed her body and they end up pregnant soon.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the embryos from the Asian couple who carried the twins?

Also if the couple had been white they might have never realized the embryo mix up.

So messed up.

+1 to the bolded. This sentence from the article stands out to me (and was what I was thinking): "More of these serious mix-ups likely go unnoticed, especially if there is no obvious racial mismatch. "

I'm showing this my husband! I feel like in my heart of hearts there was a mix up, and he always dismisses it. I didn't mean I love my DC any less, there's enough DNA transfer in utero to satisfy whatever bio urges I feel but still. I'm 99% certain they didn't use my egg.

I am afraid of the same thing, PP. Do paternity tests (like at CVS) work the same for mothers? I'm seriously tempted.

The NIPT can be a paternity and maternity test b/c you get baby's DNA from the mother's blood (as early as 8 weeks, but reliably at 10). No need to do a CVS.

I did NIPT. How does it act as a maternity test? My child ended up with a blood type that is highly improbable.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s horrible from all sides. But I had a pretty negative reaction to the lady who was about herself (my immediate reaction was wasn’t able to bond, feed with her body, blah blah blah). Yes, I get it’s a shock, but you’d hope your first thoughts would be about your baby and not your missed opportunity. Hopefully her journey will develop to an understanding that a child’s mother doesn’t have to be the one to birth them to be a good mother.

I've been interviewed before. It's entirely possible that she did worry about her baby but the reporter didn't include the quote. I wouldn't assume the interview was fully reported.

Yeah, that lady just got a bio baby without the pain and suffering of pregnancy. The multiple pains of pregnancy is what keeps me from having a third child. I would pay $$$ to have a surrogate carry my bio child. Mom doesn’t need to carry the baby to bond with baby. How would dads ever bond with their child according to her thinking?

The Asian couple better get at least $1m for their ordeal. What a nightmare.

This is what I was thinking. She carried twins and had a c section, and will be dealing with the physical impact of this, probably for the rest of her life, even before thinking about the emotional distress.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are the embryos from the Asian couple who carried the twins?

Also if the couple had been white they might have never realized the embryo mix up.

So messed up.

+1 to the bolded. This sentence from the article stands out to me (and was what I was thinking): "More of these serious mix-ups likely go unnoticed, especially if there is no obvious racial mismatch. "

I'm showing this my husband! I feel like in my heart of hearts there was a mix up, and he always dismisses it. I didn't mean I love my DC any less, there's enough DNA transfer in utero to satisfy whatever bio urges I feel but still. I'm 99% certain they didn't use my egg.

I am afraid of the same thing, PP. Do paternity tests (like at CVS) work the same for mothers? I'm seriously tempted.

The NIPT can be a paternity and maternity test b/c you get baby's DNA from the mother's blood (as early as 8 weeks, but reliably at 10). No need to do a CVS.

My kid is 3. Looks like I can do this for ~$200 https://www.labcorpdna.com/dna-testing/maternity-testing
It wouldn't change anything, except maybe I get to say I told you so to DH, which may be priceless. But I also don't want to really know.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are the embryos from the Asian couple who carried the twins?

Also if the couple had been white they might have never realized the embryo mix up.

So messed up.

+1 to the bolded. This sentence from the article stands out to me (and was what I was thinking): "More of these serious mix-ups likely go unnoticed, especially if there is no obvious racial mismatch. "

I'm showing this my husband! I feel like in my heart of hearts there was a mix up, and he always dismisses it. I didn't mean I love my DC any less, there's enough DNA transfer in utero to satisfy whatever bio urges I feel but still. I'm 99% certain they didn't use my egg.

I am afraid of the same thing, PP. Do paternity tests (like at CVS) work the same for mothers? I'm seriously tempted.

The NIPT can be a paternity and maternity test b/c you get baby's DNA from the mother's blood (as early as 8 weeks, but reliably at 10). No need to do a CVS.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are the embryos from the Asian couple who carried the twins?

Also if the couple had been white they might have never realized the embryo mix up.

So messed up.

+1 to the bolded. This sentence from the article stands out to me (and was what I was thinking): "More of these serious mix-ups likely go unnoticed, especially if there is no obvious racial mismatch. "

I'm showing this my husband! I feel like in my heart of hearts there was a mix up, and he always dismisses it. I didn't mean I love my DC any less, there's enough DNA transfer in utero to satisfy whatever bio urges I feel but still. I'm 99% certain they didn't use my egg.

I am afraid of the same thing, PP. Do paternity tests (like at CVS) work the same for mothers? I'm seriously tempted.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s horrible from all sides. But I had a pretty negative reaction to the lady who was about herself (my immediate reaction was wasn’t able to bond, feed with her body, blah blah blah). Yes, I get it’s a shock, but you’d hope your first thoughts would be about your baby and not your missed opportunity. Hopefully her journey will develop to an understanding that a child’s mother doesn’t have to be the one to birth them to be a good mother.

I've been interviewed before. It's entirely possible that she did worry about her baby but the reporter didn't include the quote. I wouldn't assume the interview was fully reported.

Yeah, that lady just got a bio baby without the pain and suffering of pregnancy. The multiple pains of pregnancy is what keeps me from having a third child. I would pay $$$ to have a surrogate carry my bio child. Mom doesn’t need to carry the baby to bond with baby. How would dads ever bond with their child according to her thinking?

The Asian couple better get at least $1m for their ordeal. What a nightmare.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where are the embryos from the Asian couple who carried the twins?

Also if the couple had been white they might have never realized the embryo mix up.

So messed up.

+1 to the bolded. This sentence from the article stands out to me (and was what I was thinking): "More of these serious mix-ups likely go unnoticed, especially if there is no obvious racial mismatch. "

I'm showing this my husband! I feel like in my heart of hearts there was a mix up, and he always dismisses it. I didn't mean I love my DC any less, there's enough DNA transfer in utero to satisfy whatever bio urges I feel but still. I'm 99% certain they didn't use my egg.

PP, how old is your child? Have you done a genetic test? It sounds like you love your child no matter what, but if testing confirmed your suspicions, what do you think you would do with the information?

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the embryos from the Asian couple who carried the twins?

Also if the couple had been white they might have never realized the embryo mix up.

So messed up.

+1 to the bolded. This sentence from the article stands out to me (and was what I was thinking): "More of these serious mix-ups likely go unnoticed, especially if there is no obvious racial mismatch. "

I'm showing this my husband! I feel like in my heart of hearts there was a mix up, and he always dismisses it. I didn't mean I love my DC any less, there's enough DNA transfer in utero to satisfy whatever bio urges I feel but still. I'm 99% certain they didn't use my egg.

this is SO messed up. I hope this isnt our member who has trauma from IVF and was afraid of "outing herself"

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the embryos from the Asian couple who carried the twins?

Also if the couple had been white they might have never realized the embryo mix up.

So messed up.

+1 to the bolded. This sentence from the article stands out to me (and was what I was thinking): "More of these serious mix-ups likely go unnoticed, especially if there is no obvious racial mismatch. "

I think, as home DNA test kits become more and more popular, that these kinds of mix ups will be revealed.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s horrible from all sides. But I had a pretty negative reaction to the lady who was about herself (my immediate reaction was wasn’t able to bond, feed with her body, blah blah blah). Yes, I get it’s a shock, but you’d hope your first thoughts would be about your baby and not your missed opportunity. Hopefully her journey will develop to an understanding that a child’s mother doesn’t have to be the one to birth them to be a good mother.

I've been interviewed before. It's entirely possible that she did worry about her baby but the reporter didn't include the quote. I wouldn't assume the interview was fully reported.

Agree with above poster - I thought I heard her say something like "no parent should have to meet their baby for the first time in the lobby of a hotel"...I'm like "um, this is what you came away???" Really?

Anonymous wrote:I hope the NY woman is able to try again and successfully carry a baby of her own that she can keep. Such a sad story all around.

PP makes an interesting point about whether Anni could have carried the fetus to term. So many unknowns here.

Agreed, so many factors! It’s also possible that the (wrong) embryos transferred to Anni simply weren’t viable, while the embryos transferred to the NY woman happened to be viable.

Anonymous wrote:Where are the embryos from the Asian couple who carried the twins?

Also if the couple had been white they might have never realized the embryo mix up.

So messed up.

+1 to the bolded. This sentence from the article stands out to me (and was what I was thinking): "More of these serious mix-ups likely go unnoticed, especially if there is no obvious racial mismatch. "

Anonymous wrote:Where are the embryos from the Asian couple who carried the twins?

Also if the couple had been white they might have never realized the embryo mix up.

So messed up.

I think they don't know or haven't disclosed yet what happened the woman's own two female embryos. The bio mother had an embryo transfer that failed. I don't think it's been reported if that was another of her own embryos or maybe the other couple's embryo?