Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mine is on the verge of being a teen:
Honestly, you just start losing your grip on them. For instance, I am trying to keep a routine this summer that doesn't include constant video games, screen, etc. It's been one confrontation after another.
Communication:
Me: How was school?
DS: Fine.
Me: What did you enjoy the most at school today?
DS: Stop interrogating me.
Me (calmly): turn off the tv and find something else to do.
DS: In a minute.
Me (a minute later, calmly): turn off the tv and find something else to do.
DS ignoring me
Me (calmly): You've been watching tv for three solid hours. Turn it off and find something else to do.
DS: In a minute
Me: (a few minutes later, raising my voice): find something else to do or something will be found.
DS: Why are you yelling? I was doing what you wanted. You don't have to be so crazy.
In the first case, you just asked open-ended generic questions. You could try to find out what they are learning about, especially in the child's favorite subject. You didn't put in much effort. Why should the child?
In the second case you did some repetitive nagging. You told the child to do "something else" but you didn't provide any ideas.
Instead you just did repetitive nagging. You didn't put in much effort. Why should the child?
No surprises here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mine is on the verge of being a teen:
Honestly, you just start losing your grip on them. For instance, I am trying to keep a routine this summer that doesn't include constant video games, screen, etc. It's been one confrontation after another.
Communication:
Me: How was school?
DS: Fine.
Me: What did you enjoy the most at school today?
DS: Stop interrogating me.
Me (calmly): turn off the tv and find something else to do.
DS: In a minute.
Me (a minute later, calmly): turn off the tv and find something else to do.
DS ignoring me
Me (calmly): You've been watching tv for three solid hours. Turn it off and find something else to do.
DS: In a minute
Me: (a few minutes later, raising my voice): find something else to do or something will be found.
DS: Why are you yelling? I was doing what you wanted. You don't have to be so crazy.
some gentle advice:
instead of "turn off the tv and find something else to do" why not try...
"hon, can you push pause a second?"
"you've watched a lot of tv today. how much longer is this episode? please don't start another one."
you get to the same place (within a few minutes) but you show respect, you model polite discourse, and you don't make them feel quite so ordered around.
no one likes to be interrupted in the middle of something.
Anonymous wrote:God makes teenagers and old people mean because otherwise we'd never be able to let them go.
Anonymous wrote:My former boss, in his 80s, said that his family of 4 were so close growing up, it was lovely, but his daughters never really left, never married, and in hindsight it might have been better if they had broken away and started their own families.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PPs have nailed it so just want to add: When they rebel, it makes you think you did not do a good job of translating your values. It's hard to listen to them dismiss things you've tried to instill in them.
And something else: the culture is against you. The culture is trying to cultivate a consumer. So to get that consumer, they encourage short term decisions vs. long term investment. The culture is "you'll be happy if you engage in sex, drugs, shopping, basically you'll be happy by INDULGING, and you will be all alone and scorned if you don't go with the herd." It's designed with their developmental stage in mind. It's rough.
And basically you lose a lot of control. You can't just sign them up for a tennis class and expect them to go. You can't physically restrain them...you can't do really anything but hope that they will make good choices when they are doing things without your supervision.
And you have to come to terms with that the kid you have is not the kid you envisioned. Example: The athlete's son hates sports, or is uncoordinated, or likes acting instead. My friend, who is a doctor, had to wrap her head around the fact that her kid sucks at math, which is my friend's strong point. I love to hike and I've got one teen that will spend zero time outdoors, and I live in a state with beautiful weather. You want to give your kid your values, and you assume your kid will inherit your talents, and then you have to recognize them as someone unique from your dreams and wishes. It's a weaning process, and weaning takes years and involves both sides.
Amazing post
Yes - I needed to read that.
Anonymous wrote:It's an evolutionary adaptation to get them out of our lives, so we can have more children. Your feelings have evolved to get your genes in the next generation.
Anonymous wrote:Do you have amnesia of your teen years?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PPs have nailed it so just want to add: When they rebel, it makes you think you did not do a good job of translating your values. It's hard to listen to them dismiss things you've tried to instill in them.
And something else: the culture is against you. The culture is trying to cultivate a consumer. So to get that consumer, they encourage short term decisions vs. long term investment. The culture is "you'll be happy if you engage in sex, drugs, shopping, basically you'll be happy by INDULGING, and you will be all alone and scorned if you don't go with the herd." It's designed with their developmental stage in mind. It's rough.
And basically you lose a lot of control. You can't just sign them up for a tennis class and expect them to go. You can't physically restrain them...you can't do really anything but hope that they will make good choices when they are doing things without your supervision.
And you have to come to terms with that the kid you have is not the kid you envisioned. Example: The athlete's son hates sports, or is uncoordinated, or likes acting instead. My friend, who is a doctor, had to wrap her head around the fact that her kid sucks at math, which is my friend's strong point. I love to hike and I've got one teen that will spend zero time outdoors, and I live in a state with beautiful weather. You want to give your kid your values, and you assume your kid will inherit your talents, and then you have to recognize them as someone unique from your dreams and wishes. It's a weaning process, and weaning takes years and involves both sides.
Amazing post