Anonymous
06/21/2019 11:50
Subject: Re:DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where would you like them to get the money from if they have repeatedly testified that they do not have the funding to cover current shortfalls related to this crisis. Have you gotten on the phone with your Congressperson? Can you share the script so as we all may call?
I called, but they said they were too busy paying for this.
You seem fixated on executive branch travel. Have you contacted your Congressperson to have more limitation put on it? Can they also recoup from some of the Obama overseas outings?
Not sure what that has to do with a totally different budget item, but it might make you feel better about this separate issue.
Anonymous
06/21/2019 11:47
Subject: DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:Even airlines give you a blanket and a toothbrush, FFS
I have never had an airline give me a toothbrush. Ever. I fly several times a year; typically 3-4 times internationally and another 2-3 times within the US.
Anonymous
06/21/2019 11:44
Subject: DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:The word “migrant” is being used in place of “immigrant.” A migrant is a person who moves from one place to another within a country. My parents were migrants who came to California from Oklahoma and Texas in the early 1940s.
An immigrant is a person who moves from one country from another.
Actually the word "migrant" is being used in place of "criminal trespasser."
Anonymous
06/21/2019 11:42
Subject: Re:DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where would you like them to get the money from if they have repeatedly testified that they do not have the funding to cover current shortfalls related to this crisis. Have you gotten on the phone with your Congressperson? Can you share the script so as we all may call?
I called, but they said they were too busy paying for this.
Trump children paid to be on state visit to UK
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/447130-trump-children-paid-to-be-on-state-visit-to-uk%3famp
Trump’s kids paid their way. They will has SS protection paid for by taxpayers wherever they are.
Anonymous
06/21/2019 11:31
Subject: DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Even airlines give you a blanket and a toothbrush, FFS
You fly for free?
Yes, I do. Eric Trump here.
Anonymous
06/21/2019 10:45
Subject: DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:Even airlines give you a blanket and a toothbrush, FFS
You fly for free?
Anonymous
06/21/2019 10:42
Subject: DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And this is the same party that claims to be fighting tooth and nail for fetuses? Why don't they care about actual living children?
Why don't their own governments. Please explain to my why Guatemala, Honduras, etc. hasn't responded with horror and action?
We don't control other governments. We do, however, have a say in what our government should or should not do.
But please do answer first PP's question. Why do pro-birthers not care about actual living children?
Anonymous
06/21/2019 10:09
Subject: DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why don't Congressional Democrats want to do anything?
Proving once again your ignorance. Which you could avoid by reading more.
Well, there are restrictions.
The Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) is running out of money.
Senate agreed to $1.2 billion to Customs and Border Protection to relieve overcrowding and to improve care. I don't know how that works, however, as these centers can only fit so many people.
The bill includes restrictions - some ever supported by Rs - that include no border wall funding. There is no support for extra beds, which was requested by ICE. There is also Congressional access to ORR built into the funding.
We shouldn't build more beds. Release them and they'll return for their hearings. Not detain them.
You really must think this process is simple. Let's just cut them loose! lol
1. They need to placed appropriately - in areas with sufficient social services.
2. They are assigned case managers who must get to know the people well in order to ensure their needs are being met. Anyone with half a brain knows how overworked and underpaid social workers (or others in service fields) are. Can they communicate first of all? if not, who's providing translation services, which will lengthen the process???
3. They need jobs. not an easy task, especially with language barriers and different skill sets
4. Health screenings don't end at the border, especially if trauma is present - and that's typically the case.
5. community outreach - People need to feel connected. So which groups will help with basic needs through donations, for example?
These measures should be tracked through an automated services. So the social worker can see updates, for example, in order to keep up with his/her assigned person or family.
I'm amazed at how ignorant so many of you are. TRULY ignorant
You seem to think this is all so easy - that it's simply a matter of taking them in. People have to work. They need shelter. They need schooling. They need to care for their health. This all takes MONEY and TIME. And time is money.
So while we bolster the border, we also need to either hire more health and mental health workers - or we overwork the ones we have b/c of budgetary constraints. And then when kids enter schools, ESOL classes grow, which is an additional expense. If the money's not there, then we rob Peter to give to Paul, which means allocations from other areas are drained. How much money is set aside for additional classroom assistants? And then there are space issues, as schools become overcrowded.
It ain't so easy, folks, b/c it doesn't end at the border. So a toothbrush is the least of our worries.
Sounds like FCMP that the trump administration nixed. Too bad, might have been helpful in the current situation. Who could have guessed?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna885896
Anonymous
06/21/2019 09:34
Subject: Re:DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:Where would you like them to get the money from if they have repeatedly testified that they do not have the funding to cover current shortfalls related to this crisis. Have you gotten on the phone with your Congressperson? Can you share the script so as we all may call?
I called, but they said they were too busy paying for this.
Anonymous
06/21/2019 09:34
Subject: Re:DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:for those of you arguing that the DOJ is right, we don't have a difference in policy, we have a difference in moral values.
Moral values are great. We should all be humane, right?
But if there's no money to BACK UP humanitarian measures, what's the next step???????????????????
You all live in your heads.
And before you bite back, talk to social workers and doctors & mental health specialists in clinics and teachers. They'll be handling the people you all think the country can miraculously absorb - as you sit behind your TV or screen and shout out how cruel many of us are.
Anonymous
06/21/2019 09:26
Subject: Re:DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Where would you like them to get the money from if they have repeatedly testified that they do not have the funding to cover current shortfalls related to this crisis. Have you gotten on the phone with your Congressperson? Can you share the script so as we all may call?
Anonymous
06/21/2019 09:24
Subject: Re:DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
for those of you arguing that the DOJ is right, we don't have a difference in policy, we have a difference in moral values.
Anonymous
06/21/2019 09:12
Subject: DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
And there was nothing wrong with putting asylum seekers on a bus back home if they didn't meet the criteria. What is wrong is caging people and treating them inhumanely, and even more abhorrent, separating families and putting kids into DeVos adoption mills.
Anonymous
06/21/2019 09:05
Subject: DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why don't Congressional Democrats want to do anything?
Proving once again your ignorance. Which you could avoid by reading more.
Well, there are restrictions.
The Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) is running out of money.
Senate agreed to $1.2 billion to Customs and Border Protection to relieve overcrowding and to improve care. I don't know how that works, however, as these centers can only fit so many people.
The bill includes restrictions - some ever supported by Rs - that include no border wall funding. There is no support for extra beds, which was requested by ICE. There is also Congressional access to ORR built into the funding.
We shouldn't build more beds. Release them and they'll return for their hearings. Not detain them.
Release a 2 year old with no parent?
We do release families, and most actually do not return for their hearing. That is just a fact.
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Actually, the facts are that the 2 year old was separated from a family member, and the facts are that under the old system (ie Obama) the hearing rate was around 82%, so yes, some fell through the cracks, but most went to their hearings and were either accepted or deported.
I'll need evidence from you b/c I don't necessarily believe these stats. However, if they are accurate, it's b/c the Obama admin placed quite a few on a bus right back home.
This comes to mind - 2014 - https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/02/us/california-immigrant-transfers/index.html
I guess we've become very compassionate lately.
The national controversy over a surge of Central American immigrants illegally crossing the U.S. border established a new battleground this week in a Southern California small town where angry crowds thwarted detained migrants from entering their community.
In a faceoff Tuesday with three buses carrying the migrants behind screened-off windows, the demonstrators chanted "Go back home!" and "USA" and successfully forced the coaches to leave Murrieta, CNN affiliate KFMB reported.
The buses instead took the 140 or so undocumented immigrants to U.S. processing centers at least 80 miles away, in the San Diego and El Centro areas, federal officials say.
Counter-protesters squared off with the demonstrators, and a shouting match erupted over the nation's immigration system, which recently has been overwhelmed with a tide of Central American minors illegally entering the United States alone or with other children.
Unlike undocumented Mexican migrants, who are often immediately deported, the U.S. government detains and processes the Central Americans, who are eventually released and given a month to report to immigration offices. Many never show up and join the nation's 11 million undocumented population, says the National Border Patrol Council, the union representing Border Patrol agents.
Anonymous
06/21/2019 08:56
Subject: DOJ argues that migrant children should not receive toothbrushes or soap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why don't Congressional Democrats want to do anything?
Proving once again your ignorance. Which you could avoid by reading more.
Well, there are restrictions.
The Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) is running out of money.
Senate agreed to $1.2 billion to Customs and Border Protection to relieve overcrowding and to improve care. I don't know how that works, however, as these centers can only fit so many people.
The bill includes restrictions - some ever supported by Rs - that include no border wall funding. There is no support for extra beds, which was requested by ICE. There is also Congressional access to ORR built into the funding.
We shouldn't build more beds. Release them and they'll return for their hearings. Not detain them.
You really must think this process is simple. Let's just cut them loose! lol
1. They need to placed appropriately - in areas with sufficient social services.
2. They are assigned case managers who must get to know the people well in order to ensure their needs are being met. Anyone with half a brain knows how overworked and underpaid social workers (or others in service fields) are. Can they communicate first of all? if not, who's providing translation services, which will lengthen the process???
3. They need jobs. not an easy task, especially with language barriers and different skill sets
4. Health screenings don't end at the border, especially if trauma is present - and that's typically the case.
5. community outreach - People need to feel connected. So which groups will help with basic needs through donations, for example?
These measures should be tracked through an automated services. So the social worker can see updates, for example, in order to keep up with his/her assigned person or family.
I'm amazed at how ignorant so many of you are. TRULY ignorant
You seem to think this is all so easy - that it's simply a matter of taking them in. People have to work. They need shelter. They need schooling. They need to care for their health. This all takes MONEY and TIME. And time is money.
So while we bolster the border, we also need to either hire more health and mental health workers - or we overwork the ones we have b/c of budgetary constraints. And then when kids enter schools, ESOL classes grow, which is an additional expense. If the money's not there, then we rob Peter to give to Paul, which means allocations from other areas are drained. How much money is set aside for additional classroom assistants? And then there are space issues, as schools become overcrowded.
It ain't so easy, folks, b/c it doesn't end at the border. So a toothbrush is the least of our worries.