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Anonymous wrote:DD is doing the Future 500 ID Camp next week where there is an add-on for 40 yard dash testing. They also have shuttle run and vertical jump testing. She has done the shuttle and vertical tests before and did well so she is signed up for those. She has not done a 40 yet so I told her to skip that. My guess would be 5.3-5.4 secs would be pretty good.

This topic is a great example of what is wrong with youth soccer in this country.

The success of our women’s World Cup team begs to differ.

They won their group including Thailand and Chile. Now the challenges begin. The days of USA dominance in women’s soccer are numbered.

US 2 Sweden 0. Totally dominant first half, then they dialed it back. If anything, the US looks even stronger than ever. Please go back to your home country where you can abuse your wife. Here in the US we respect, support, and cheer for our nation’s women.

TOUCHÉ!!

Say what you want to say, but it’s the USWNT that made women soccer more popular world wide, even in developing countries.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is doing the Future 500 ID Camp next week where there is an add-on for 40 yard dash testing. They also have shuttle run and vertical jump testing. She has done the shuttle and vertical tests before and did well so she is signed up for those. She has not done a 40 yet so I told her to skip that. My guess would be 5.3-5.4 secs would be pretty good.

This topic is a great example of what is wrong with youth soccer in this country.

The success of our women’s World Cup team begs to differ.

They won their group including Thailand and Chile. Now the challenges begin. The days of USA dominance in women’s soccer are numbered.

US 2 Sweden 0. Totally dominant first half, then they dialed it back. If anything, the US looks even stronger than ever. Please go back to your home country where you can abuse your wife. Here in the US we respect, support, and cheer for our nation’s women.

TOUCHÉ!!

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Anonymous wrote:Probably not because players that aren't as fast make up for it by making better decisions and developing ttear skill aND speed of play.

Usain bolt is a good case example

You mean the guy that hadn’t played soccer in years, but was so fast they still put him on a pro team in AU unlike all the slow, “skilled” guys that didn’t even get a second look? Hmmm...what do you think would have happened if he’d concentrated on soccer instead of track in his youth? Anyhow, someone that continues to argue that speed does not matter has either never played soccer, or any sport for that matter, or is slow and has always been cut from the better teams and holds a grudge cuz he wasn’t born fast and never put in sprint and explosion work to get faster. Sorry clown, you’re just plain dumb and plain wrong.

This is seriously hilarious.

Speed is incredibly important, yes. And that’s why I made a few teams. And why some friends who were excellent players didn’t get as far as they could. But I found when I went to college I needed to gain 5-10lbs of muscle to keep up because I was getting knocked off the ball in ways I wasn’t during club play. And of course skill is paramount.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is doing the Future 500 ID Camp next week where there is an add-on for 40 yard dash testing. They also have shuttle run and vertical jump testing. She has done the shuttle and vertical tests before and did well so she is signed up for those. She has not done a 40 yet so I told her to skip that. My guess would be 5.3-5.4 secs would be pretty good.

This topic is a great example of what is wrong with youth soccer in this country.

Your what's wrong. A 40 yard dash is a measurements of explosiveness. Been around a long time. Its not an indicator of talent it's an indicator of speed.

Guess what...speed kills. Ask Mbappe

Speed with the ball matters. I'm not sure how many 40 yard post routes get run in soccer.

A little. But every soccer player knows the fastest way to move the ball is by passing. When you can blow past defenders to receive a pass, you’re golden.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is doing the Future 500 ID Camp next week where there is an add-on for 40 yard dash testing. They also have shuttle run and vertical jump testing. She has done the shuttle and vertical tests before and did well so she is signed up for those. She has not done a 40 yet so I told her to skip that. My guess would be 5.3-5.4 secs would be pretty good.

This topic is a great example of what is wrong with youth soccer in this country.

The success of our women’s World Cup team begs to differ.

They won their group including Thailand and Chile. Now the challenges begin. The days of USA dominance in women’s soccer are numbered.

US 2 Sweden 0. Totally dominant first half, then they dialed it back. If anything, the US looks even stronger than ever. Please go back to your home country where you can abuse your wife. Here in the US we respect, support, and cheer for our nation’s women.

Anonymous wrote:Probably not because players that aren't as fast make up for it by making better decisions and developing ttear skill aND speed of play.

Usain bolt is a good case example

You mean the guy that hadn’t played soccer in years, but was so fast they still put him on a pro team in AU unlike all the slow, “skilled” guys that didn’t even get a second look? Hmmm...what do you think would have happened if he’d concentrated on soccer instead of track in his youth? Anyhow, someone that continues to argue that speed does not matter has either never played soccer, or any sport for that matter, or is slow and has always been cut from the better teams and holds a grudge cuz he wasn’t born fast and never put in sprint and explosion work to get faster. Sorry clown, you’re just plain dumb and plain wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is doing the Future 500 ID Camp next week where there is an add-on for 40 yard dash testing. They also have shuttle run and vertical jump testing. She has done the shuttle and vertical tests before and did well so she is signed up for those. She has not done a 40 yet so I told her to skip that. My guess would be 5.3-5.4 secs would be pretty good.

This topic is a great example of what is wrong with youth soccer in this country.

Your what's wrong. A 40 yard dash is a measurements of explosiveness. Been around a long time. Its not an indicator of talent it's an indicator of speed.

Guess what...speed kills. Ask Mbappe

Speed with the ball matters. I'm not sure how many 40 yard post routes get run in soccer.

98 percent of the time you don't have the ball. Gues what...speed matters without the ball as well.

But if you’re running to the wrong place, speed doesn’t matter. Soccer intelligence matters a lot more. A great player still needs to be athletic and coordinated, but A faster brain is more important than a faster body. Get it meathead?

Ahhh. It’s the clown that uses the term “meathead” when he’s frustrated. The problem with your arguments is, well, they’re just plain dumb. You make assumptions such as, if a person is really fast, they must not have soccer IQ. Of course that is a false premise. Speed matters with and without the ball, as does general athleticism, as does soccer IQ and skill. It ALL matters. You cannot be really slow and really unathletic and play at an elite level. Also, foreign pro teams do test for speed, quickness, agility and explosiveness. Just accept it and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is doing the Future 500 ID Camp next week where there is an add-on for 40 yard dash testing. They also have shuttle run and vertical jump testing. She has done the shuttle and vertical tests before and did well so she is signed up for those. She has not done a 40 yet so I told her to skip that. My guess would be 5.3-5.4 secs would be pretty good.

This topic is a great example of what is wrong with youth soccer in this country.

The success of our women’s World Cup team begs to differ.

They won their group including Thailand and Chile. Now the challenges begin. The days of USA dominance in women’s soccer are numbered.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is doing the Future 500 ID Camp next week where there is an add-on for 40 yard dash testing. They also have shuttle run and vertical jump testing. She has done the shuttle and vertical tests before and did well so she is signed up for those. She has not done a 40 yet so I told her to skip that. My guess would be 5.3-5.4 secs would be pretty good.

This topic is a great example of what is wrong with youth soccer in this country.

The success of our women’s World Cup team begs to differ.

My daughter played 4 years in college, club at pretty high level (pre-ecnl) from u9 through u18 and 4 years of varsity high school soccer on a pretty decent suburban team. Never ran a timed 40.

There is no time for that stuff. In club ball you are paying for instruction not to work on fitness. Frankly, kids who were not reasonably fit got there pretty quickly or did not make the teams anyway. You mostly had kids coming back from injuries who would be working on fitness while they also came to practices and games. Her club did do some college fitness work the kids’ senior year as basically a replacement for tournament play. The girls said later that was helpful as they did stuff colleges did like beep tests and 30x30s etc.

In high school ball the coaches were always focused on trying to ferret out positioning in the too short preseason. Not an easy challenge really. In 4 years of high school ball my kid started at pretty much every position but keeper.

The bottom line in soccer is that anyone can figure out who is fast, the question by the time players are in their teens is whether they are fast and quick with the ball.

Anonymous wrote:First cut in high school is based on speed. Speed only. Doesn't matter who's been on travel team. Skill doesn't matter. Lots of skilled players are trying out. There will be plenty to choose from. Above all, they better be extremely fast.

First cut is based on speed. It's timed.

I chuckled and stopped right there. MS and HS soccer is terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:First cut in high school is based on speed. Speed only. Doesn't matter who's been on travel team. Skill doesn't matter. Lots of skilled players are trying out. There will be plenty to choose from. Above all, they better be extremely fast.

First cut is based on speed. It's timed.

This is for *soccer*??

No way. BS. It is in no way possible that there is a coach out there who is so dumb as to cut players based only on 40 times and could convince a high school to hire him. This doesn't pass the laugh test.

They don't do this in ANY sport, except those in which speed is the only consideration (track). Hah, some baseball pitchers can't run 40 yards at all.

Nobody said it was the sole selection criteria. It is just one piece of many criteria that can be used in a recruiting scenario. Remember, college coaches have very limited opportunity to see players play in competitive game settings. The more indicators they have, the better a player's chances.

Problem is that too many coaches over-prioritize speed. Cutting a kid solely over a 40 time unless it is well below the average for that level is plain stupid - but you better believe it happens. Soccer (especially levels with substitution limits) is a fitness sport. Fitness is critical. But straight line speed should be below several other attributes. Unless, again, the straight line speed is well below the average for that age and gender.

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Anonymous wrote:First cut in high school is based on speed. Speed only. Doesn't matter who's been on travel team. Skill doesn't matter. Lots of skilled players are trying out. There will be plenty to choose from. Above all, they better be extremely fast.

First cut is based on speed. It's timed.

This is for *soccer*??

No way. BS. It is in no way possible that there is a coach out there who is so dumb as to cut players based only on 40 times and could convince a high school to hire him. This doesn't pass the laugh test.

They don't do this in ANY sport, except those in which speed is the only consideration (track). Hah, some baseball pitchers can't run 40 yards at all.

Nobody said it was the sole selection criteria. It is just one piece of many criteria that can be used in a recruiting scenario. Remember, college coaches have very limited opportunity to see players play in competitive game settings. The more indicators they have, the better a player's chances.

Dude, read the quote that I called BS on. That’s exactly what he said.

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Anonymous wrote:First cut in high school is based on speed. Speed only. Doesn't matter who's been on travel team. Skill doesn't matter. Lots of skilled players are trying out. There will be plenty to choose from. Above all, they better be extremely fast.

First cut is based on speed. It's timed.

This is for *soccer*??

No way. BS. It is in no way possible that there is a coach out there who is so dumb as to cut players based only on 40 times and could convince a high school to hire him. This doesn't pass the laugh test.

They don't do this in ANY sport, except those in which speed is the only consideration (track). Hah, some baseball pitchers can't run 40 yards at all.

Nobody said it was the sole selection criteria. It is just one piece of many criteria that can be used in a recruiting scenario. Remember, college coaches have very limited opportunity to see players play in competitive game settings. The more indicators they have, the better a player's chances.

LOL jerry Rice’s 40 time 4.71 seconds....that is considered slow for a receiver. No one caught him on the field. Some players have game speed and they can not run a time trials worth a shit. That is why they do not do track.

Straight line speed is one type of speed. Change of direct and accretion to speed after changing direct is more important vs running a straight line 40 fast. Also the ability to recover quickly...ie being able to do it again and again is very important. Some players seem to get faster as the game goes on...they are able to recover quicker.