Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:55
Subject: Re:"I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about you, but I can jump out of the way as most people can. A car going straight through, you can hop out of the way of if you’re looking in that directionAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Never trust a car to stop even if you are in the crosswalk and you have the light. I am shocked at all the pedestrians that don't bother looking or keep walking even when they see car coming just trusting that the driver will stop.
Okay. SO what happens if a car just plows through the crosswalk. There is only so much vigilance a pedestrian can demonstrate. If you have the light or you are in the crosswalk, looking can only do so much if someone drives through it.
For the most part, all looking is going to accomplish is watching your death come at you.
Fear response (freezing) and the fact that people are slower than cars means that a pedestrian will always be at a disadvantage.
When incidents like the OP describes happen, the only way the pedestrian survives is if the car stops! All the vigilance in the world won't save her.
Idiot. I hope you step in dog shit today.
A person in a crosswalk shouldn't have to have cat like reflexes in order to avoid being hit. They have the right of way.
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:54
Subject: "I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cars have blind spots.
I try to be careful and go slowly for that reason. I almost ( slowly ) hit someone in a parking lot recently. They were just in the perfect spot to not be seen.
Scary stuff.
Of course I didn’t yell at them.
How was there a blind spot when the OP was right in front of the car?
It's evident that most of the responses are coming from people who don't walk in the city. Get out of your car for once in your life and you'll get a huge wake up call.
Stfu, you sanctimonious ass.
Posted from her car.
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:52
Subject: "I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cars have blind spots.
I try to be careful and go slowly for that reason. I almost ( slowly ) hit someone in a parking lot recently. They were just in the perfect spot to not be seen.
Scary stuff.
Of course I didn’t yell at them.
How was there a blind spot when the OP was right in front of the car?
It's evident that most of the responses are coming from people who don't walk in the city. Get out of your car for once in your life and you'll get a huge wake up call.
Stfu, you sanctimonious ass.
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:44
Subject: "I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
If the car isbn't super speeding, if it doesn't run a stop sign while speeding; if luck and god on your side then MAYBE you can hop away from a vehicle going 20 times faster than you are.
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:43
Subject: Re:"I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about you, but I can jump out of the way as most people can. A car going straight through, you can hop out of the way of if you’re looking in that directionAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Never trust a car to stop even if you are in the crosswalk and you have the light. I am shocked at all the pedestrians that don't bother looking or keep walking even when they see car coming just trusting that the driver will stop.
Okay. SO what happens if a car just plows through the crosswalk. There is only so much vigilance a pedestrian can demonstrate. If you have the light or you are in the crosswalk, looking can only do so much if someone drives through it.
For the most part, all looking is going to accomplish is watching your death come at you.
Fear response (freezing) and the fact that people are slower than cars means that a pedestrian will always be at a disadvantage.
When incidents like the OP describes happen, the only way the pedestrian survives is if the car stops! All the vigilance in the world won't save her.
You can hop out of the way if you have excellent reflexes, if you are not in a stroller, you aren't holding someone's hand, aren't using a cane, don't have mobility issues, or don't freeze in fear the way many many people do.
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:41
Subject: Re:"I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
I don’t know about you, but I can jump out of the way as most people can. A car going straight through, you can hop out of the way of if you’re looking in that directionAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Never trust a car to stop even if you are in the crosswalk and you have the light. I am shocked at all the pedestrians that don't bother looking or keep walking even when they see car coming just trusting that the driver will stop.
Okay. SO what happens if a car just plows through the crosswalk. There is only so much vigilance a pedestrian can demonstrate. If you have the light or you are in the crosswalk, looking can only do so much if someone drives through it.
For the most part, all looking is going to accomplish is watching your death come at you.
Fear response (freezing) and the fact that people are slower than cars means that a pedestrian will always be at a disadvantage.
When incidents like the OP describes happen, the only way the pedestrian survives is if the car stops! All the vigilance in the world won't save her.
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:40
Subject: "I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
Anonymous wrote:right. In all cases, just treat it as though the car always has the right of wayAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP, yes you had the right of way. I think the other poster’s point is that there’s no right of way in heaven. (Per a saying I once saw in another country.) This means don’t rely on others for your safety even if you do have the right of way. It could save your life.
Yes, pedestrians need to be mindful, too, but I notice drivers try to rush through because they are in a hurry. They will try to quickly get through so they don't have to stop for the pedestrian. This is probably what happened in OP's case.
If that's the case, how are you ever supposed to get across the street?
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:40
Subject: Re:"I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
The last time I freaked the f* out on a driver was when I was walking in a crosswalk with my mom, who has mobility issues-she is slow and I'm very afraid of her falling. Some jerk clearly saw us but had to drive up on us at top speed and stop at the last second-and didn't understand why that wasn't acceptable to me. Personally, I will stand in front of the car of anyone who does that and curse them out until they've lost more than the amount of time they would have spent if they had driven more slowly and stopped with a reasonable amount of space for the pedestrian.
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:38
Subject: "I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
right. In all cases, just treat it as though the car always has the right of wayAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP, yes you had the right of way. I think the other poster’s point is that there’s no right of way in heaven. (Per a saying I once saw in another country.) This means don’t rely on others for your safety even if you do have the right of way. It could save your life.
Yes, pedestrians need to be mindful, too, but I notice drivers try to rush through because they are in a hurry. They will try to quickly get through so they don't have to stop for the pedestrian. This is probably what happened in OP's case.
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:29
Subject: Re:"I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Never trust a car to stop even if you are in the crosswalk and you have the light. I am shocked at all the pedestrians that don't bother looking or keep walking even when they see car coming just trusting that the driver will stop.
Okay. SO what happens if a car just plows through the crosswalk. There is only so much vigilance a pedestrian can demonstrate. If you have the light or you are in the crosswalk, looking can only do so much if someone drives through it.
For the most part, all looking is going to accomplish is watching your death come at you.
Fear response (freezing) and the fact that people are slower than cars means that a pedestrian will always be at a disadvantage.
When incidents like the OP describes happen, the only way the pedestrian survives is if the car stops! All the vigilance in the world won't save her.
If the OP was being vigilant how did she not see a car coming.... looking at her phone ... probably.
You can't just stand at a crosswalk texting then all of a sudden walk into the crosswalk ... like drivers can read your mind.
This is OP. I wasn't looking at my phone. I'm an old Gen X person and my phone is not that important to me. When I started crossing Irving was clear and the driver on Hiatt street was at least halfway down the block. She blew through the stop sign to make the left when she almost hit me.
You have said this at least twice. I feel like you are fighting a losing battle. For some reason I cannot comprehend, people want to believe the fact that you were walking legally and carefully is moot and you are still responsible for bad, inattentive, and dangerous drivers.
Why, people?
What people are disagreeing with is that OP does need to "calm down"... she was walking... a car did not hit her but she thought it might... It stopped. She was clearly walking very slowly across a very small intersection and she needs to be more vigilant in the city.
You talk about the fact that she was walking slowly as if somehow it's an excuse for the driver to run the stop sign, and either not watch where she's going, or intentionally scare someone.
There are plenty of people who have disabilities that impact their walking speed. A subset of them also have disabilities that prevent driving. They still deserve to be able to cross a street, and crossing a street when you have the right of way at a stop sign, with the nearest car far up the block, or out of sight, should be a safe strategy. If it wasn't, then people would be stuck in their houses forever.
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:27
Subject: Re:"I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Never trust a car to stop even if you are in the crosswalk and you have the light. I am shocked at all the pedestrians that don't bother looking or keep walking even when they see car coming just trusting that the driver will stop.
Okay. SO what happens if a car just plows through the crosswalk. There is only so much vigilance a pedestrian can demonstrate. If you have the light or you are in the crosswalk, looking can only do so much if someone drives through it.
For the most part, all looking is going to accomplish is watching your death come at you.
Fear response (freezing) and the fact that people are slower than cars means that a pedestrian will always be at a disadvantage.
When incidents like the OP describes happen, the only way the pedestrian survives is if the car stops! All the vigilance in the world won't save her.
If the OP was being vigilant how did she not see a car coming.... looking at her phone ... probably.
You can't just stand at a crosswalk texting then all of a sudden walk into the crosswalk ... like drivers can read your mind.
This is OP. I wasn't looking at my phone. I'm an old Gen X person and my phone is not that important to me. When I started crossing Irving was clear and the driver on Hiatt street was at least halfway down the block. She blew through the stop sign to make the left when she almost hit me.
Do you use a walker? She was 1/2 way down the block and you could not make it 2 car lengths... it's not a big intersection.
What does that matter? There are tons of small children in that neighborhood who would cross slowly too. There's a child care center right on that block of Irving. There are senior citizens.
Bottom line, driver was wrong.
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:25
Subject: Re:"I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Never trust a car to stop even if you are in the crosswalk and you have the light. I am shocked at all the pedestrians that don't bother looking or keep walking even when they see car coming just trusting that the driver will stop.
Okay. SO what happens if a car just plows through the crosswalk. There is only so much vigilance a pedestrian can demonstrate. If you have the light or you are in the crosswalk, looking can only do so much if someone drives through it.
For the most part, all looking is going to accomplish is watching your death come at you.
Fear response (freezing) and the fact that people are slower than cars means that a pedestrian will always be at a disadvantage.
When incidents like the OP describes happen, the only way the pedestrian survives is if the car stops! All the vigilance in the world won't save her.
If the OP was being vigilant how did she not see a car coming.... looking at her phone ... probably.
You can't just stand at a crosswalk texting then all of a sudden walk into the crosswalk ... like drivers can read your mind.
This is OP. I wasn't looking at my phone. I'm an old Gen X person and my phone is not that important to me. When I started crossing Irving was clear and the driver on Hiatt street was at least halfway down the block. She blew through the stop sign to make the left when she almost hit me.
You have said this at least twice. I feel like you are fighting a losing battle. For some reason I cannot comprehend, people want to believe the fact that you were walking legally and carefully is moot and you are still responsible for bad, inattentive, and dangerous drivers.
Why, people?
What people are disagreeing with is that OP does need to "calm down"... she was walking... a car did not hit her but she thought it might... It stopped. She was clearly walking very slowly across a very small intersection and she needs to be more vigilant in the city.
That is quite a conclusion there. First of all, \she could have been walking normal speed. The fact that the driver may/was likely to have been speeding isn't a possibility in your book. And since she was making a left when she blew the stop,. the OP very well could have been near the end of the crosswalk.
Also, imagine a speeding car that blew a stop sign stopping a few inches in front of you. You are saying you would be completely calm and unflappable? Whatever.
Finally, please explain how vigilance would have helped her here. If a car is speeding and runs a stop sign how can a pedestrian fight that?
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:24
Subject: Re:"I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Never trust a car to stop even if you are in the crosswalk and you have the light. I am shocked at all the pedestrians that don't bother looking or keep walking even when they see car coming just trusting that the driver will stop.
Okay. SO what happens if a car just plows through the crosswalk. There is only so much vigilance a pedestrian can demonstrate. If you have the light or you are in the crosswalk, looking can only do so much if someone drives through it.
For the most part, all looking is going to accomplish is watching your death come at you.
Fear response (freezing) and the fact that people are slower than cars means that a pedestrian will always be at a disadvantage.
When incidents like the OP describes happen, the only way the pedestrian survives is if the car stops! All the vigilance in the world won't save her.
If the OP was being vigilant how did she not see a car coming.... looking at her phone ... probably.
You can't just stand at a crosswalk texting then all of a sudden walk into the crosswalk ... like drivers can read your mind.
This is OP. I wasn't looking at my phone. I'm an old Gen X person and my phone is not that important to me. When I started crossing Irving was clear and the driver on Hiatt street was at least halfway down the block. She blew through the stop sign to make the left when she almost hit me.
You have said this at least twice. I feel like you are fighting a losing battle. For some reason I cannot comprehend, people want to believe the fact that you were walking legally and carefully is moot and you are still responsible for bad, inattentive, and dangerous drivers.
Why, people?
+1,000
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:22
Subject: Re:"I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Never trust a car to stop even if you are in the crosswalk and you have the light. I am shocked at all the pedestrians that don't bother looking or keep walking even when they see car coming just trusting that the driver will stop.
Okay. SO what happens if a car just plows through the crosswalk. There is only so much vigilance a pedestrian can demonstrate. If you have the light or you are in the crosswalk, looking can only do so much if someone drives through it.
For the most part, all looking is going to accomplish is watching your death come at you.
Fear response (freezing) and the fact that people are slower than cars means that a pedestrian will always be at a disadvantage.
When incidents like the OP describes happen, the only way the pedestrian survives is if the car stops! All the vigilance in the world won't save her.
If the OP was being vigilant how did she not see a car coming.... looking at her phone ... probably.
You can't just stand at a crosswalk texting then all of a sudden walk into the crosswalk ... like drivers can read your mind.
This is OP. I wasn't looking at my phone. I'm an old Gen X person and my phone is not that important to me. When I started crossing Irving was clear and the driver on Hiatt street was at least halfway down the block. She blew through the stop sign to make the left when she almost hit me.
Do you use a walker? She was 1/2 way down the block and you could not make it 2 car lengths... it's not a big intersection.
OP here. Actually yes, I tore my meniscus and am using a cane right now. Thanks for reminding me.
Anonymous
06/18/2019 16:22
Subject: Re:"I didn't run you over, so you need to calm down!"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Never trust a car to stop even if you are in the crosswalk and you have the light. I am shocked at all the pedestrians that don't bother looking or keep walking even when they see car coming just trusting that the driver will stop.
Okay. SO what happens if a car just plows through the crosswalk. There is only so much vigilance a pedestrian can demonstrate. If you have the light or you are in the crosswalk, looking can only do so much if someone drives through it.
For the most part, all looking is going to accomplish is watching your death come at you.
Fear response (freezing) and the fact that people are slower than cars means that a pedestrian will always be at a disadvantage.
When incidents like the OP describes happen, the only way the pedestrian survives is if the car stops! All the vigilance in the world won't save her.
If the OP was being vigilant how did she not see a car coming.... looking at her phone ... probably.
You can't just stand at a crosswalk texting then all of a sudden walk into the crosswalk ... like drivers can read your mind.
This is OP. I wasn't looking at my phone. I'm an old Gen X person and my phone is not that important to me. When I started crossing Irving was clear and the driver on Hiatt street was at least halfway down the block. She blew through the stop sign to make the left when she almost hit me.
You have said this at least twice. I feel like you are fighting a losing battle. For some reason I cannot comprehend, people want to believe the fact that you were walking legally and carefully is moot and you are still responsible for bad, inattentive, and dangerous drivers.
Why, people?
What people are disagreeing with is that OP does need to "calm down"... she was walking... a car did not hit her but she thought it might... It stopped. She was clearly walking very slowly across a very small intersection and she needs to be more vigilant in the city.