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Anonymous wrote:We play a very aggressive Offside Trap. Even teams that beat us end up with 8 calls in the first half. 2nd half depends on whether they can learn or not. Well we played a year younger than us, but they were ranked Nationally #2 GotSoccer #4 Youthsoccer. CLEARLY they were the better team. They had a 3-0 lead on us in the first half. Right at the end of the first half a parent directed one of their kids to kick (as in turn around and kick) one of our defenders. No card was issued then, but my understanding was that three yellows were given to them at half time. (I heard this from their parents.) Two minutes into the 2nd half, there was a hard foul on one of our kids resulting initially as a yellow card and about a 3 minute delay as he was attended ...... his father came out to tend to him (presumably with referee permission, as he was NEVER escorted off the field). One of their parents was kicked out of the game due to persistent complaining to the referees. Finally, after one of their parents threatened the referee that "I'll be waiting for you in the parking lot." the game and the police were called. I won't claim that our parents were angels, as the discussion was heated as to if the father was allowed to tend to his child (on the parent side of the field), but I didn't hear any inappropriate talk.

I am pretty sure it was their inexperience with an offside trap that led to all this disruption. For that and the fact that none of our kids escalated the confrontations made be proud of our boys.

Why do you stay on a team where the coach is obsessed with offside traps? What a cheap and boring way to win games.

Just left a team for that very reason (heavy offsides trap)!!! Very frustrating for the defense. It is very difficult to pull off correctly and if you have refs not calling offsides properly it is a shit show.

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Anonymous wrote:We play a very aggressive Offside Trap. Even teams that beat us end up with 8 calls in the first half. 2nd half depends on whether they can learn or not. Well we played a year younger than us, but they were ranked Nationally #2 GotSoccer #4 Youthsoccer. CLEARLY they were the better team. They had a 3-0 lead on us in the first half. Right at the end of the first half a parent directed one of their kids to kick (as in turn around and kick) one of our defenders. No card was issued then, but my understanding was that three yellows were given to them at half time. (I heard this from their parents.) Two minutes into the 2nd half, there was a hard foul on one of our kids resulting initially as a yellow card and about a 3 minute delay as he was attended ...... his father came out to tend to him (presumably with referee permission, as he was NEVER escorted off the field). One of their parents was kicked out of the game due to persistent complaining to the referees. Finally, after one of their parents threatened the referee that "I'll be waiting for you in the parking lot." the game and the police were called. I won't claim that our parents were angels, as the discussion was heated as to if the father was allowed to tend to his child (on the parent side of the field), but I didn't hear any inappropriate talk.

I am pretty sure it was their inexperience with an offside trap that led to all this disruption. For that and the fact that none of our kids escalated the confrontations made be proud of our boys.

Why do you stay on a team where the coach is obsessed with offside traps? What a cheap and boring way to win games.

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Anonymous wrote:We had a game where the opposing coach was a screaming lunatic throughout the game and then absolutely lovely to the boys afterwards, complementing each one on their particular skill. Still sort of scratching my head.

I don't think thats bad (depends on what he said to the boys during the game). I don't think there is anything wrong with a coach telling his team "during the game, I'm going to be on you to do your best for yourself and help the team win", and after the game taking the approach "everybody did something today well, everybody worked hard, we're in this together".

Kids can learn to be competitive without needing to be cutthroat, they can learn that in playing a sport and in life, coaches and others have expectations of them, and they can learn win or lose, playing and working hard is ultimately the most important thing.

Up-thread, someone used the perfect term for this sort of coaching (constant screaming at players throughout the game):

"joy-stick coaching"

It is where the coach controls the game from the sidelines through yelling out and re-positioning players.

Shouldn't kids learn the game strategy on their own or practice positioning at practice?

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Anonymous wrote:We had a game where the opposing coach was a screaming lunatic throughout the game and then absolutely lovely to the boys afterwards, complementing each one on their particular skill. Still sort of scratching my head.

I don't think thats bad (depends on what he said to the boys during the game). I don't think there is anything wrong with a coach telling his team "during the game, I'm going to be on you to do your best for yourself and help the team win", and after the game taking the approach "everybody did something today well, everybody worked hard, we're in this together".

Kids can learn to be competitive without needing to be cutthroat, they can learn that in playing a sport and in life, coaches and others have expectations of them, and they can learn win or lose, playing and working hard is ultimately the most important thing.

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Anonymous wrote:At one of my sons games this year. I watched as the coach of the next game u12 told 3 boys who were easily 14 or 15 . If they ask you your name is Miguel and yours is Jason. We stayed to watch and it was clearly something they had done many times before. The other coach didn't complain but the parents were upset. The offending team parents spoke all Spanish and sat there as if all was okay. We stayed until halftime not sure who won the game.

My kid's 2005 team played a league game with a few absolute beasts in regular league play. When our coaching staff looked up player cards after the game, they were 2004s. Cheaters.

This stuff happens all of the time and it is usually much worse in tournaments.

lol, did the other team actually provide 04 player cards? Ref should have not allowed that to pass and it's their responsibility to ensure. For a tournament, the roster wouldn't even be accepted. How would coaches review player cards if they weren't submitted before game (which would have been caught right away). The other team is pretty dumb to turn in 04 for 05 game.