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Anonymous

08/21/2019 17:27 Subject: Re:FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

Herndon High Parents only - all Dranesville candidates are advocating for keeping Langley students at Langley. What would you like your representative to do for you and our high school? I don't have kids there yet so are there things you would like to see changed?

One thing I would like to know in terms of equity is whether the same AP classes are running at Herndon (I mean actually running, not just listed in the course catalog) vs. another high school like McLean.

Anonymous

08/21/2019 17:21 Subject: FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

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Everyone gets a say since this is a county wide school division and there are 3 at large members. Nonsense and irresponsibility cross magisterial districts and impact taxes. Everyone would pay for additions at West Potomac while contiguous Mount Vernon has open capacity. Everyone pays for stuff like the extra funding of $1.3 million extra for 2 schools - Hunters Woods in Hunter Mill District and Bailey's in Mason District. Guess what? Some people who live in Herndon find that plus IB "inequitable" and believe all schools should get the same level of funding with adjustment for poverty/esol.

His positions appear to all be derived from Langley boundaries as a constant.

And who talks to Herndon?

I read in another thread, if I understand it correctly, that Herndon gets more money but its "regular " students are underfunded.

Is that a widespread sentiment? Can it be proven by examining the budget?

Herndon gets the same amount for "regular" students as every other school.

A couple of years ago, FCPS introduced the ESOL Pilot program that sought to move kids from ELL classes (perhaps students taking classes after hours) to regular base school classes. This occurred at Lee, I believe Stuart, South Lakes and Herndon. The idea was that school officials could leverage the extra resources given to the school during the day for these kids. The problem was that a lot of these kids needed extra support, the extra support was not provided and thus fell to the counselors that were there to serve everybody. I know that more support was asked for, but I can't find what happened and if it was ever provided to Herndon. I think the name of the program was changed which is why I can't find anything.

"Regular" nor disadvantaged students do not get the same at IB v AP schools. ES magnets get about 500 more per student and it's about 950 if a student requires transportation.

https://www.fcps.edu/department/office-research-and-strategic-improvement
The ESOL pilot program document linked in the url above:
https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/AHBN3N5B3D7F/$file/English%20Learner%20Study%20Year%201_Jan%202016_technical%20rpt.pdf

Thank you. It's now called the English Learner study, but the info is from 2016. I was watching a school board meeting from (I thought) fall 2018, Brabrand was in it and that is where I heard about the resource request.

Anonymous

08/21/2019 17:15 Subject: Re:FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

1. Eliminate magnet schools.
2. Eliminate centers.
3. Eliminate IB.

Anonymous

08/21/2019 16:58 Subject: FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[Anonymous]

Everyone gets a say since this is a county wide school division and there are 3 at large members. Nonsense and irresponsibility cross magisterial districts and impact taxes. Everyone would pay for additions at West Potomac while contiguous Mount Vernon has open capacity. Everyone pays for stuff like the extra funding of $1.3 million extra for 2 schools - Hunters Woods in Hunter Mill District and Bailey's in Mason District. Guess what? Some people who live in Herndon find that plus IB "inequitable" and believe all schools should get the same level of funding with adjustment for poverty/esol.

His positions appear to all be derived from Langley boundaries as a constant.

And who talks to Herndon?

I read in another thread, if I understand it correctly, that Herndon gets more money but its "regular " students are underfunded.

Is that a widespread sentiment? Can it be proven by examining the budget?

Herndon gets the same amount for "regular" students as every other school.

A couple of years ago, FCPS introduced the ESOL Pilot program that sought to move kids from ELL classes (perhaps students taking classes after hours) to regular base school classes. This occurred at Lee, I believe Stuart, South Lakes and Herndon. The idea was that school officials could leverage the extra resources given to the school during the day for these kids. The problem was that a lot of these kids needed extra support, the extra support was not provided and thus fell to the counselors that were there to serve everybody. I know that more support was asked for, but I can't find what happened and if it was ever provided to Herndon. I think the name of the program was changed which is why I can't find anything.

Anonymous

08/21/2019 12:30 Subject: FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[Anonymous]

Everyone gets a say since this is a county wide school division and there are 3 at large members. Nonsense and irresponsibility cross magisterial districts and impact taxes. Everyone would pay for additions at West Potomac while contiguous Mount Vernon has open capacity. Everyone pays for stuff like the extra funding of $1.3 million extra for 2 schools - Hunters Woods in Hunter Mill District and Bailey's in Mason District. Guess what? Some people who live in Herndon find that plus IB "inequitable" and believe all schools should get the same level of funding with adjustment for poverty/esol.

His positions appear to all be derived from Langley boundaries as a constant.

And who talks to Herndon?

I read in another thread, if I understand it correctly, that Herndon gets more money but its "regular " students are underfunded.

Is that a widespread sentiment? Can it be proven by examining the budget?

Herndon gets the same amount for "regular" students as every other school.

Anonymous

08/21/2019 11:06 Subject: Re:FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

I'm not 100% on this, but I think that schools receive Title I funds based on the # of disadvantaged kids.

Many years ago, the funds followed the kid instead of the school. I taught under those rules and it was not workable to exclude the non-Title I kids from the others. Almost all the kids did qualify for Title I. To show that misuse of funds is not new--our funds could only be used to purchase equipment. So, you weren't supposed to use the tape player with the non-Title I kids. And, how much equipment is useful? How many tape players do you need? I still think the Title I coordinator for the county (not in Virginia) must have been getting his palm greased.

Eventually, a staff member wrote up a proposal for a grant that hired additional teachers and aides. Then, we developed a very simple and effective program--mostly due to this teacher who was amazing. No help from anyone at the county level. Just like lots of Gatehouse does not develop workable programs.

Anonymous

08/21/2019 10:50 Subject: FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

Anonymous wrote:[Anonymous]

Everyone gets a say since this is a county wide school division and there are 3 at large members. Nonsense and irresponsibility cross magisterial districts and impact taxes. Everyone would pay for additions at West Potomac while contiguous Mount Vernon has open capacity. Everyone pays for stuff like the extra funding of $1.3 million extra for 2 schools - Hunters Woods in Hunter Mill District and Bailey's in Mason District. Guess what? Some people who live in Herndon find that plus IB "inequitable" and believe all schools should get the same level of funding with adjustment for poverty/esol.

His positions appear to all be derived from Langley boundaries as a constant.

And who talks to Herndon?

I read in another thread, if I understand it correctly, that Herndon gets more money but its "regular " students are underfunded.

Is that a widespread sentiment? Can it be proven by examining the budget?

A "regular student" meaning non-disadvantaged, none prior or current ELs? None special education ? Any student in for example Hutchison Elementary/Herndon Middle/Herndon High is not funded on the same level as Bailey's/Glasgow Middle/Justice. Why? Program money flows beyond any ELs and disadvantaged impact produced from lower staffing ratios, any Young Scholars program, and ESOL. A Hutchison student who flows into current ELs, Disadvantaged, Hispanic receives lower per pupil funding from FCPS than a comparable student at Bailey's and a non-disadvantaged non-ELs student at Bailey's [Mason District] or Hunters Woods [Hunter Mill District] gets the same funding boost from designation as a magnet school. $ information is available in program and detail budgets per school on the FCPS website.

Proof sources: VDOE-Virginia Dept of Education requires submission on membership per school site per school year so one can use numbers from the 2018-19 school year and the comparable budget cycle from FCPS. http://www.doe.virginia.gov/statistics_reports/enrollment/index.shtml

Equitable funding based on needs of students should have a baseline: core instruction, needs based staffing ratios, ESOL, Young Scholars.
Non baseline extras like IB, Immersion, Dual Spanish, Magnet should have been equitable funding issues examined by at-large board members and they have not been addressed. Furthermore at-large members have not done their due diligence on financial impacts relative to costs of not doing boundary changes for basic capacity issues or a combination of program location and out of boundary students [see Mosby Woods and Kent Gardens where AAP and Immersion impact the base school students].

Anonymous

08/21/2019 08:28 Subject: Re:FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

With the election in a little over two months, do any of the three candidates in Dranesville stand out? If so, why?

Anonymous

08/21/2019 08:07 Subject: FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

Anonymous wrote:[Anonymous]

Everyone gets a say since this is a county wide school division and there are 3 at large members. Nonsense and irresponsibility cross magisterial districts and impact taxes. Everyone would pay for additions at West Potomac while contiguous Mount Vernon has open capacity. Everyone pays for stuff like the extra funding of $1.3 million extra for 2 schools - Hunters Woods in Hunter Mill District and Bailey's in Mason District. Guess what? Some people who live in Herndon find that plus IB "inequitable" and believe all schools should get the same level of funding with adjustment for poverty/esol.

His positions appear to all be derived from Langley boundaries as a constant.

And who talks to Herndon?

I read in another thread, if I understand it correctly, that Herndon gets more money but its "regular " students are underfunded.

Is that a widespread sentiment? Can it be proven by examining the budget?

Herndon gets the same amount for "regular" students as every other school.

Anonymous

08/20/2019 23:31 Subject: FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

[Anonymous]

Everyone gets a say since this is a county wide school division and there are 3 at large members. Nonsense and irresponsibility cross magisterial districts and impact taxes. Everyone would pay for additions at West Potomac while contiguous Mount Vernon has open capacity. Everyone pays for stuff like the extra funding of $1.3 million extra for 2 schools - Hunters Woods in Hunter Mill District and Bailey's in Mason District. Guess what? Some people who live in Herndon find that plus IB "inequitable" and believe all schools should get the same level of funding with adjustment for poverty/esol.

His positions appear to all be derived from Langley boundaries as a constant.

And who talks to Herndon?

Anonymous

06/27/2019 18:54 Subject: Re:FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I welcome your decision to run, but my concern with your platform is that your materials seem very Langley-centric. Dranesville also includes neighborhoods zoned for other high schools (Herndon, McLean, Marshall, and Westfield).

Curious--which Westfield kids live in Dranesville district? The boundaries don't match up.

It's just the Coates precinct in Dranesville, which is south of the Dulles Toll Road and zoned to Westfield.

I found a map that shows that now. There cannot be more than a handful of kids from that district. Most of Coates appears to be in Hunter Mill or Sully.
Lines must have been drawn before the DTR was built.

Anonymous

06/27/2019 17:23 Subject: Re:FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

Anonymous wrote:

I welcome your decision to run, but my concern with your platform is that your materials seem very Langley-centric. Dranesville also includes neighborhoods zoned for other high schools (Herndon, McLean, Marshall, and Westfield).

Curious--which Westfield kids live in Dranesville district? The boundaries don't match up.

It's just the Coates precinct in Dranesville, which is south of the Dulles Toll Road and zoned to Westfield.

Anonymous

06/27/2019 17:19 Subject: FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you. Yes, I am running. Below is the link to my web site. I am establishing links with the McLean community and would welcome expanding that link with everyone on this thread. Please reach out to me at ardavan@ardavan2019.com and I would be more than happy to arrange a 1:1 meeting and discuss your concerns and my platform. I am also looking to arrange meet and greets with McLean families. If anyone is interested in discussing those with me as well, please reach out to me.

www.ardavan2019.com

Ardavan - This statement appears on your web site as a priority: "Empowering the Langley pyramid community to object to and prevent the consideration of any boundary changes without their support."

Does this mean Langley parents should have veto rights over whether any students are moved in or out of Langley High School? If so, why don't you suggest that the "Herndon and McLean pyramid communities" in Dranesville should be similarly empowered?

I welcome your decision to run, but my concern with your platform is that your materials seem very Langley-centric. Dranesville also includes neighborhoods zoned for other high schools (Herndon, McLean, Marshall, and Westfield).

Perhaps we will have a chance to meet in person before the election to discuss.

I had the same thought as PP. Instead of meeting 1 on 1, why don't you schedule a meet and greet out in Herndon and advertise it?

Anonymous

06/27/2019 16:48 Subject: Re:FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

I welcome your decision to run, but my concern with your platform is that your materials seem very Langley-centric. Dranesville also includes neighborhoods zoned for other high schools (Herndon, McLean, Marshall, and Westfield).

Curious--which Westfield kids live in Dranesville district? The boundaries don't match up.

Anonymous

06/27/2019 16:26 Subject: Re:FCPS School Board candidates in Dranesville

Please reach out to me at ardavan@ardavan2019.com. We will definitely meet in McLean, but would also welcome 1:1's to discuss your questions and hear your concerns.