Anonymous wrote:What is the point of PARCC if it is not actually standardized? Wasn’t the whole point that you could compare across districts/states? I know that soon enough, DC will be the only place left using it, but still, that is asinine.

Sorry for that tangent.

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How many times do we have to go over this ? They are not the same assessments. Different standards.
You cannot compare PARCC assessment taken in DC to PARCC assessment taken in MD. Different standards. MD standards are very high and tough.
A simple Google search could have told you that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARCC
"When administering the PARCC assessment, states will be able to tailor the exams to their standards, classes, and other accountability tools that are unique to each state."

THERE IS NOTHING TO DISCUSS

don't lose your cool yet. DC kids do well too you know. Takes nothing away from MD kids.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 'Janney' thread got deleted by the moderator and rightfully so. I do wonder if we can have a serious discussion about why we must pit the schools against one another? There are great schools in DC and in MD. Any time you have a school with a very wealthy student population, is there any doubt it will succeed?

Here are the average PARCC scores (average math and ELA) for WOTP DCPS schools and the MoCo schools that another poster mentioned by grade:

3rd Grade Avg
Coldspring ES 91.25
Bannockburn 87.35
Ross (DC) 85.4
Key (DC) 82.85
Carderock ES 82.45
Hyde (DC) 82.1
Bradley Hills 80.65
Lafayette (DC) 76.8
Janney (DC) 75.85
Clarksburg ES 74.15
Mann (DC) 74.15
Bethesda Elementary 73
Stoddert (DC) 72.35
Oyster (DC) 68.55
Murch (DC) 65.3
Eaton (DC) 62.7
Belmont 61.1
College Gardens 58.6

4th Grade Avg
Stoddert (DC) 92.35
Coldspring ES 90.15
Bannockburn 90
Ross (DC) 90
Carderock ES 88.25
Janney (DC) 84.65
Mann (DC) 80.25
Eaton (DC) 79.9
Lafayette (DC) 79.8
Bradley Hills 77.1
Key (DC) 71
Murch (DC) 70.6
Belmont 70.35
Clarksburg ES 63.6
Oyster (DC) 62.95
Hyde (DC) 62.1
College Gardens 56.6
Bethesda Elementary 55.1


5th Grade Avg
Coldspring ES 93.1
Bannockburn 90
Carderock ES 82.1
Janney (DC) 81.45
Key (DC) 75
Ross (DC) 75
Lafayette (DC) 74.2
Eaton (DC) 73.85
Stoddert (DC) 73.35
Mann (DC) 71.3
Bradley Hills 70.7
Oyster (DC) 69.7
Hyde (DC) 64
Murch (DC) 62.5
Bethesda Elementary 59.8
Belmont 59.45
College Gardens 50.35
Clarksburg ES 47.05

Discuss.

You picked the wealthiest schools in DC and compared them to a diverse set of schools in MD. That's called cherry picking your data OP.

+1 And Ross ES EOTP, not WOTP. But I guess you want to use it because its test scores are higher than most of the WOTP schools.

I thought OP is using these schools because many say that there are no schools in DC better than top MCPS.

How many times do we have to go over this ? They are not the same assessments. Different standards.
You cannot compare PARCC assessment taken in DC to PARCC assessment taken in MD. Different standards. MD standards are very high and tough.
A simple Google search could have told you that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARCC
"When administering the PARCC assessment, states will be able to tailor the exams to their standards, classes, and other accountability tools that are unique to each state."

THERE IS NOTHING TO DISCUSS

Anonymous wrote:The 'Janney' thread got deleted by the moderator and rightfully so. I do wonder if we can have a serious discussion about why we must pit the schools against one another? There are great schools in DC and in MD. Any time you have a school with a very wealthy student population, is there any doubt it will succeed?

Here are the average PARCC scores (average math and ELA) for WOTP DCPS schools and the MoCo schools that another poster mentioned by grade:

3rd Grade Avg
Coldspring ES 91.25
Bannockburn 87.35
Ross (DC) 85.4
Key (DC) 82.85
Carderock ES 82.45
Hyde (DC) 82.1
Bradley Hills 80.65
Lafayette (DC) 76.8
Janney (DC) 75.85
Clarksburg ES 74.15
Mann (DC) 74.15
Bethesda Elementary 73
Stoddert (DC) 72.35
Oyster (DC) 68.55
Murch (DC) 65.3
Eaton (DC) 62.7
Belmont 61.1
College Gardens 58.6

4th Grade Avg
Stoddert (DC) 92.35
Coldspring ES 90.15
Bannockburn 90
Ross (DC) 90
Carderock ES 88.25
Janney (DC) 84.65
Mann (DC) 80.25
Eaton (DC) 79.9
Lafayette (DC) 79.8
Bradley Hills 77.1
Key (DC) 71
Murch (DC) 70.6
Belmont 70.35
Clarksburg ES 63.6
Oyster (DC) 62.95
Hyde (DC) 62.1
College Gardens 56.6
Bethesda Elementary 55.1


5th Grade Avg
Coldspring ES 93.1
Bannockburn 90
Carderock ES 82.1
Janney (DC) 81.45
Key (DC) 75
Ross (DC) 75
Lafayette (DC) 74.2
Eaton (DC) 73.85
Stoddert (DC) 73.35
Mann (DC) 71.3
Bradley Hills 70.7
Oyster (DC) 69.7
Hyde (DC) 64
Murch (DC) 62.5
Bethesda Elementary 59.8
Belmont 59.45
College Gardens 50.35
Clarksburg ES 47.05

Discuss.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 'Janney' thread got deleted by the moderator and rightfully so. I do wonder if we can have a serious discussion about why we must pit the schools against one another? There are great schools in DC and in MD. Any time you have a school with a very wealthy student population, is there any doubt it will succeed?

Here are the average PARCC scores (average math and ELA) for WOTP DCPS schools and the MoCo schools that another poster mentioned by grade:

3rd Grade Avg
Coldspring ES 91.25
Bannockburn 87.35
Ross (DC) 85.4
Key (DC) 82.85
Carderock ES 82.45
Hyde (DC) 82.1
Bradley Hills 80.65
Lafayette (DC) 76.8
Janney (DC) 75.85
Clarksburg ES 74.15
Mann (DC) 74.15
Bethesda Elementary 73
Stoddert (DC) 72.35
Oyster (DC) 68.55
Murch (DC) 65.3
Eaton (DC) 62.7
Belmont 61.1
College Gardens 58.6

4th Grade Avg
Stoddert (DC) 92.35
Coldspring ES 90.15
Bannockburn 90
Ross (DC) 90
Carderock ES 88.25
Janney (DC) 84.65
Mann (DC) 80.25
Eaton (DC) 79.9
Lafayette (DC) 79.8
Bradley Hills 77.1
Key (DC) 71
Murch (DC) 70.6
Belmont 70.35
Clarksburg ES 63.6
Oyster (DC) 62.95
Hyde (DC) 62.1
College Gardens 56.6
Bethesda Elementary 55.1


5th Grade Avg
Coldspring ES 93.1
Bannockburn 90
Carderock ES 82.1
Janney (DC) 81.45
Key (DC) 75
Ross (DC) 75
Lafayette (DC) 74.2
Eaton (DC) 73.85
Stoddert (DC) 73.35
Mann (DC) 71.3
Bradley Hills 70.7
Oyster (DC) 69.7
Hyde (DC) 64
Murch (DC) 62.5
Bethesda Elementary 59.8
Belmont 59.45
College Gardens 50.35
Clarksburg ES 47.05

Discuss.

You picked the wealthiest schools in DC and compared them to a diverse set of schools in MD. That's called cherry picking your data OP.

+1 And Ross ES EOTP, not WOTP. But I guess you want to use it because its test scores are higher than most of the WOTP schools.

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Anonymous wrote:We are now in an MCPS school but also have prior experience with DCPS, one EOTP school and one WOTP school. Honestly, had a good experience in all 3 schools.

The EOTP school had a lot of resources from Title I funds and DCPS-specific funds for low-performing schools. Smaller class sizes than any other school I've seen, very engaged teachers, excellent principal.

The WOTP school had a very active PTA that could raise funds to pay for additional staff members. Class sizes were a lot larger though than the EOTP school.

MCPS has been really good for us - we are at a truly diverse school (no majority race/ethnicity), child receives acceleration when it is needed, and in future may qualify for more formal acceleration (what they call compacted math, for example, where kids do three years of math in two). I don't think my child will get into the G&T programs, which are intended for the top 2%, but they are there to serve the kids that are truly gifted (not just smart).

I really don't think it needs to be a big competition between the various school systems. Kids can get a good education at any of these schools.

Are you in ES or MS, PP?

Anonymous wrote:We are now in an MCPS school but also have prior experience with DCPS, one EOTP school and one WOTP school. Honestly, had a good experience in all 3 schools.

The EOTP school had a lot of resources from Title I funds and DCPS-specific funds for low-performing schools. Smaller class sizes than any other school I've seen, very engaged teachers, excellent principal.

The WOTP school had a very active PTA that could raise funds to pay for additional staff members. Class sizes were a lot larger though than the EOTP school.

MCPS has been really good for us - we are at a truly diverse school (no majority race/ethnicity), child receives acceleration when it is needed, and in future may qualify for more formal acceleration (what they call compacted math, for example, where kids do three years of math in two). I don't think my child will get into the G&T programs, which are intended for the top 2%, but they are there to serve the kids that are truly gifted (not just smart).

I really don't think it needs to be a big competition between the various school systems. Kids can get a good education at any of these schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 'Janney' thread got deleted by the moderator and rightfully so. I do wonder if we can have a serious discussion about why we must pit the schools against one another? There are great schools in DC and in MD. Any time you have a school with a very wealthy student population, is there any doubt it will succeed?

Here are the average PARCC scores (average math and ELA) for WOTP DCPS schools and the MoCo schools that another poster mentioned by grade:

3rd Grade Avg
Coldspring ES 91.25
Bannockburn 87.35
Ross (DC) 85.4
Key (DC) 82.85
Carderock ES 82.45
Hyde (DC) 82.1
Bradley Hills 80.65
Lafayette (DC) 76.8
Janney (DC) 75.85
Clarksburg ES 74.15
Mann (DC) 74.15
Bethesda Elementary 73
Stoddert (DC) 72.35
Oyster (DC) 68.55
Murch (DC) 65.3
Eaton (DC) 62.7
Belmont 61.1
College Gardens 58.6

4th Grade Avg
Stoddert (DC) 92.35
Coldspring ES 90.15
Bannockburn 90
Ross (DC) 90
Carderock ES 88.25
Janney (DC) 84.65
Mann (DC) 80.25
Eaton (DC) 79.9
Lafayette (DC) 79.8
Bradley Hills 77.1
Key (DC) 71
Murch (DC) 70.6
Belmont 70.35
Clarksburg ES 63.6
Oyster (DC) 62.95
Hyde (DC) 62.1
College Gardens 56.6
Bethesda Elementary 55.1


5th Grade Avg
Coldspring ES 93.1
Bannockburn 90
Carderock ES 82.1
Janney (DC) 81.45
Key (DC) 75
Ross (DC) 75
Lafayette (DC) 74.2
Eaton (DC) 73.85
Stoddert (DC) 73.35
Mann (DC) 71.3
Bradley Hills 70.7
Oyster (DC) 69.7
Hyde (DC) 64
Murch (DC) 62.5
Bethesda Elementary 59.8
Belmont 59.45
College Gardens 50.35
Clarksburg ES 47.05

Discuss.

You picked the wealthiest schools in DC and compared them to a diverse set of schools in MD. That's called cherry picking your data OP.

Anonymous wrote:The 'Janney' thread got deleted by the moderator and rightfully so. I do wonder if we can have a serious discussion about why we must pit the schools against one another? There are great schools in DC and in MD. Any time you have a school with a very wealthy student population, is there any doubt it will succeed?

Here are the average PARCC scores (average math and ELA) for WOTP DCPS schools and the MoCo schools that another poster mentioned by grade:

3rd Grade Avg
Coldspring ES 91.25
Bannockburn 87.35
Ross (DC) 85.4
Key (DC) 82.85
Carderock ES 82.45
Hyde (DC) 82.1
Bradley Hills 80.65
Lafayette (DC) 76.8
Janney (DC) 75.85
Clarksburg ES 74.15
Mann (DC) 74.15
Bethesda Elementary 73
Stoddert (DC) 72.35
Oyster (DC) 68.55
Murch (DC) 65.3
Eaton (DC) 62.7
Belmont 61.1
College Gardens 58.6

4th Grade Avg
Stoddert (DC) 92.35
Coldspring ES 90.15
Bannockburn 90
Ross (DC) 90
Carderock ES 88.25
Janney (DC) 84.65
Mann (DC) 80.25
Eaton (DC) 79.9
Lafayette (DC) 79.8
Bradley Hills 77.1
Key (DC) 71
Murch (DC) 70.6
Belmont 70.35
Clarksburg ES 63.6
Oyster (DC) 62.95
Hyde (DC) 62.1
College Gardens 56.6
Bethesda Elementary 55.1


5th Grade Avg
Coldspring ES 93.1
Bannockburn 90
Carderock ES 82.1
Janney (DC) 81.45
Key (DC) 75
Ross (DC) 75
Lafayette (DC) 74.2
Eaton (DC) 73.85
Stoddert (DC) 73.35
Mann (DC) 71.3
Bradley Hills 70.7
Oyster (DC) 69.7
Hyde (DC) 64
Murch (DC) 62.5
Bethesda Elementary 59.8
Belmont 59.45
College Gardens 50.35
Clarksburg ES 47.05

Discuss.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Resigned DCPS teacher (as of this year); this is exactly why I am leaving DCPS. I cannot reasonably serve your high academic children while serving 4 other levels in between at vastly different ends of the spectrum in impossible. The school enrichment model is a farce. Until the DCPS parents want to truly acknowledge this and stop pretending that their individual schools are going meetings the needs their children, the cycle will continue. It does not bode well for the DCPS community nor central office to ignore that a high number of children are already at or exceed the benchmark. Throwing “enrichment” into the curriculum to keep parents calm really does nothing but stick your head in the sand. Differentiation only works when most of the students are already at or near the benchmark —-not when you have 4/5th graders reading on kinder, 1st or 2nd grade levels and everyone else 5th, 6th or 7th grade levels. I’m leaving for Howard County’s true gifted educational model.

For context, are you teaching at a high performing school in a WOTP DCPS (or its equivalent elsewhere in the city)? All the kids I know are at or near the benchmark and many are high performing.