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Anonymous wrote:Fair. I think we need to show that white collar crime doesn’t pay

I agree. I think she should serve some time for what she did.

Loughlin must be shaking in her boots right about now.

Loughlin appears to believe she can beat this if she goes in front of a jury. Not if I’m on the jury!

I'm guessing Robert Kraft thought the same thing. Others plead guilty...and now the video from the place was suppressed. Moral: If you plead guilty, you're stuck. If you don't, you could face far harsher penalties...or perhaps get off.

^^ Wow. Was your brother being held and then found non-guilty? Wondering why he was only in for 45 days.

Anonymous wrote:“Prison” for her will be a half way house where she gets to go home at night and on the weekends - with an ankle brace

Yes, I have a relative convicted of a white collar crime and prison was nothing more than a 2-star accommodation (instead of 5-star) for him. No cells just giant areas where the beds were set up dorm style. "Lock down" meant that everyone had to return to their beds. There was a few common rooms with TVs and board games. Outside people came in and did crafts and activities with them from time to time. He also got face-to-face time with relatives on visitation days, although he wasn't allowed to touch anyone. There was also no age restrictions so his kids could go visit whenever on the normal visitation days and twice a year they had a special kids day when they did crafts with the younger kids. The visitation room had vending machines for all kinds of products (chips/candy, soda, coffee, ice cream, sandwiches/soup cups, personal care items, personal care tokens like for haircuts, magazine tokens). Inmates couldn't touch the money but the relatives could buy whatever from the machines for the inmates and they were approved items that they could take with them back to the restricted area. When not on lock down, they got to move about freely. They could go to the library, the common room, gym room, or outside whenever they wanted. Families could also pay a fee for a holiday meal that would be served during visitation so you could eat with your loved one at Christmas (not sure if they did it for Thanksgiving).

My brother has been to jail for 45 days and had zero freedom like that. No face-to-face time, not even with lawyers. We had to talk to him on a video screen with a telephone and he said it was the same when meeting with his lawyer except then he was in a private area and so was his lawyer. For family members it was just everyone in rows at their respective video screens and there was a 20 minute time limit that had to be divided between each group of people there to see the inmate. Inmates never got to go outside for yard time or whatever it is called. Only those serving longer sentences could build up merit points to earn the privilege to do things like wash the police cruisers, mow the yard area, paint curbs, seal the parking lot, etc. The only daylight my brother saw was from his cell window (up very high, so no direct sight out) and there were some inmates in inner cells without windows so they never saw sunlight. Not even when being transferred from the jail to the courthouse because the police vans/trucks were loaded underground at the jail and at the courthouse as well. We could put money in his commissary account but there was a certain amount that was the maximum and he had restrictions on what he could buy each purchasing period (example: only 2 undershirts per period and no inmate could own more than 4; one pair of shower shoes every 4 months) and haircuts were free but the list was hundreds of people long and the barber only came two days per month for 4 hours each time.

Eh - plenty of celebrities go to jail and come back just fine - Martha Stewart,Robert Downy, Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, Lauren HIll, Kiefer Sutherland, Lil Kim, etc. In fact, this may even boost her career.

As for why the spouses are being charged - I thought Lori's husband is getting charged, no? As for William Macy - they could be pleading "spousal privilege".

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Anonymous wrote:She hasn't been sentenced, yet. That's just what the prosecutor is recommending.

Couldn't the judge impose a lighter or even a suspended sentence?

The judge would be stupid to impose a sentence lighter than what the federal prosecutor is recommending.

That's not how it works usually. But still Brock Turner only got six months in jail for rape when the state prosecutor recommended six years so anything could happen.

+1 And even if she has a sentence of 4 months, she may end up serving only 4 weeks or even 4 days with "time off for good behavior." Prisons are overcrowded and they release people quickly if they're non-violent.

I thought for Federal sentences you can only get off for good behavior if your sentence is 1 or more years? This link isn’t exhaustive but it keeps referencing 1 or more years. https://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/faq-federal-good-time-credit.pdf

Also, she’s not going to be housed with violent offenders. She’ll be at a “camp”. The choice between her and someone else getting out will be based on their similar crimes. It’s not Felicity or a murderer.

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Anonymous wrote:Kiddo is still in college, right? I will take 4 months in jail to get my kid in to the college of choice. Where do I sign up?

Kid needs to be kicked out and banned.

Most of the schools have stated the kids are going through individual hearing processes on their eligibility.

I doubt they’ll be able to stay. As for jail mom - enjoy!

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Anonymous wrote:I think she will serve a month or so, its too crowded to serve the whole sentence. I think their marriage is fine to be honest. If anything I bet he feels terribly awful because you know he knew or at least passively approved (maybe wasn't into the details because he wasn't that parental role but still).

Why isn't he showing up to court to support his wife?

As a trial attorney IMO anyone who has fame for any reason should avoid the court room if possible. Unless they HAVE to be there or your client is too weak to preform without them I always say stay home. Meet us in the parking garage, ect. This is when I ask "do you have a non famous best friend? "Are you close with your mom from back home?" etc etc. Find another support person.

I think they are trying to protect their family by not being seen together. He has plausible deniability, and being a white man, he can get more work so their income won't dry up. Plus, he stays out of jail for their kids well-being. They thought this through after she was charged.

Anonymous wrote:Kiddo is still in college, right? I will take 4 months in jail to get my kid in to the college of choice. Where do I sign up?

Kid needs to be kicked out and banned.

i think 4 months is fair. she deserves it. Knowing her she'll probably look at it from a character-building perspective. I honestly think she's ready for it and is willing to experience the full sentence.

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Anonymous wrote:She hasn't been sentenced, yet. That's just what the prosecutor is recommending.

Couldn't the judge impose a lighter or even a suspended sentence?

The judge would be stupid to impose a sentence lighter than what the federal prosecutor is recommending.

That's not how it works usually. But still Brock Turner only got six months in jail for rape when the state prosecutor recommended six years so anything could happen.

+1 And even if she has a sentence of 4 months, she may end up serving only 4 weeks or even 4 days with "time off for good behavior." Prisons are overcrowded and they release people quickly if they're non-violent.

Is it different with a Federal Prosecutor's recommendation, though? Do judges have as much leeway when it comes to their sentencing discretion?

Yes, they do have leeway. This is a high profile case and I think the judge will either go with the prosecutors recommendation or go harsher. I don't think the judge will go lighter.

That's what I meant. In a situation like this which involves a Federal prosecutor, I don't know that the judge would feel as free to go lighter with the sentencing.

You might be right, but the judge certainly can go lighter if he/she chooses to.

+1. Look at Manafort's sentence in the Va trial versus the prosecutors' recommendation.

Kiddo is still in college, right? I will take 4 months in jail to get my kid in to the college of choice. Where do I sign up?

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She needs to pay way more in fines! Hit them where it hurts. And why is her spouse not accused of anything?

Gee, I wonder why the police and prosecutors didn't charge him? The internet indicates he might have done something!!

Jail for this is a waste IMO. Give her a much higher fine and boot her kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I think she will serve a month or so, its too crowded to serve the whole sentence. I think their marriage is fine to be honest. If anything I bet he feels terribly awful because you know he knew or at least passively approved (maybe wasn't into the details because he wasn't that parental role but still).

Why isn't he showing up to court to support his wife?

As a trial attorney IMO anyone who has fame for any reason should avoid the court room if possible. Unless they HAVE to be there or your client is too weak to preform without them I always say stay home. Meet us in the parking garage, ect. This is when I ask "do you have a non famous best friend? "Are you close with your mom from back home?" etc etc. Find another support person.

Anonymous wrote:I think she will serve a month or so, its too crowded to serve the whole sentence. I think their marriage is fine to be honest. If anything I bet he feels terribly awful because you know he knew or at least passively approved (maybe wasn't into the details because he wasn't that parental role but still).

Why isn't he showing up to court to support his wife?

I think she will serve a month or so, its too crowded to serve the whole sentence. I think their marriage is fine to be honest. If anything I bet he feels terribly awful because you know he knew or at least passively approved (maybe wasn't into the details because he wasn't that parental role but still).