Anonymous
Post 05/12/2019 11:18     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
Anonymous wrote:have your DHs make you happy and make it all about you. if done correctly, you won't care about the rain


+1
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2019 09:52     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
Anonymous wrote:Also, I LOVE going to breweries with kids. DH and I usually just split a flight to try some different beers and get a growler to go of our favorite. And a lot of times there are yummy food trucks with stuff the kids like too.

I really don’t see why letting your kids see responsible alcohol consumption is a bad thing. A lot of adults I know with alcohol issues either grew up with parents who were drunks or the other extreme and made it completely taboo.



+1. When I lived in Colorado, many breweries have kids' games to play and most have an in-house brewed root beer. There's nothing wrong with letting your kids see alcohol being consumed in a responsible manner. This weird obsession of all or nothing is so strange to me. That's where problems are planted.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2019 21:08     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
Anonymous wrote:I remember going to wineries with my parents in the late 70s and early 80s. They usually had fresh grape juice or sparkling cider for kids to sample, along with cheese, so I loved it.
My parents are not heavy drinkers, although they do have a glass of wine at dinner. It was more that if we we touring an area, we see all the sites for that area, and if the wineries were a big component of that region, we’d do that. (Like touring Hershey in Pa!)
I’ve never done it with my own kids but it sounds fun. Are the people who are opposed to this also opposed to having a glass of wine while out at dinner with your kids?[/quote]
I'm opposed to anyone drinking any amount of alcohol and then getting behind the wheel of a car - I'm especially opposed to drinking any amount of alcohol and then driving with children in the car.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2019 11:05     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
Also, I LOVE going to breweries with kids. DH and I usually just split a flight to try some different beers and get a growler to go of our favorite. And a lot of times there are yummy food trucks with stuff the kids like too.

I really don’t see why letting your kids see responsible alcohol consumption is a bad thing. A lot of adults I know with alcohol issues either grew up with parents who were drunks or the other extreme and made it completely taboo.

Anonymous
Post 05/11/2019 11:03     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
Only totally irresponsible parents do such a thing.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2019 11:00     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone suggest some mother's day ideas in the rain? We were supposed to go to a winery. Multiple families, a whole bunch of little girls in the 6-8 year old range and a lone 2.5 year old boy. Who likes to run. A lot. (sigh) Is there anything that would be fun and would not be terrible with our token toddler? Was hoping for something a little less child friendly than a typical kid-event that we'd do on a weekend.



Seriously this is the weirdest and worst parenting trend I’ve ever seen. Parents drinking wine while their kids run around. WTF. You guys are going to say it’s fine but really? We (group of adults) went to a winery last year. 20 and 30 somethings all drinking wine with babies running around. Toddler in the parking lot while the really cool parent picnicking with olives, cheese and bread enjoying their Chardonnay. Seriously? What a trend. Parent your kids. Get a babysitter when the activity is drinking alcohol.


So you've never been to Europe?


NP - I am from Europe, but the winery would not be my destination of choice with kids either, and I think it's an odd parenting decision. Drinking and driving, or parenting while under the influence is just not my thing. Now opening a bottle in my backyard with friends and neighbors while the kids are running around, count me in. Taking a picnic to the park and enjoying it with an adult beverage, sure. But when I am with my kids, I tend to prefer being sober. This is not a "European" thing.

The bolded items are entirely inconsistent.


I thought the same thing! Plus what is the difference between a picnic at a winery with some kid activities/games while the parents have a glass of wine vs. a picnic at the park with an adult beverage? Except that most public parks don’t allow alcohol so the latter would be illegal.

I get concerns over drinking and driving, but I would think parents with their children are LESS likely to be getting sloshed and driving home.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2019 09:12     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone suggest some mother's day ideas in the rain? We were supposed to go to a winery. Multiple families, a whole bunch of little girls in the 6-8 year old range and a lone 2.5 year old boy. Who likes to run. A lot. (sigh) Is there anything that would be fun and would not be terrible with our token toddler? Was hoping for something a little less child friendly than a typical kid-event that we'd do on a weekend.



Seriously this is the weirdest and worst parenting trend I’ve ever seen. Parents drinking wine while their kids run around. WTF. You guys are going to say it’s fine but really? We (group of adults) went to a winery last year. 20 and 30 somethings all drinking wine with babies running around. Toddler in the parking lot while the really cool parent picnicking with olives, cheese and bread enjoying their Chardonnay. Seriously? What a trend. Parent your kids. Get a babysitter when the activity is drinking alcohol.


So you've never been to Europe?


NP - I am from Europe, but the winery would not be my destination of choice with kids either, and I think it's an odd parenting decision. Drinking and driving, or parenting while under the influence is just not my thing. Now opening a bottle in my backyard with friends and neighbors while the kids are running around, count me in. Taking a picnic to the park and enjoying it with an adult beverage, sure. But when I am with my kids, I tend to prefer being sober. This is not a "European" thing.

The bolded items are entirely inconsistent.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2019 09:09     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone suggest some mother's day ideas in the rain? We were supposed to go to a winery. Multiple families, a whole bunch of little girls in the 6-8 year old range and a lone 2.5 year old boy. Who likes to run. A lot. (sigh) Is there anything that would be fun and would not be terrible with our token toddler? Was hoping for something a little less child friendly than a typical kid-event that we'd do on a weekend.



Seriously this is the weirdest and worst parenting trend I’ve ever seen. Parents drinking wine while their kids run around. WTF. You guys are going to say it’s fine but really? We (group of adults) went to a winery last year. 20 and 30 somethings all drinking wine with babies running around. Toddler in the parking lot while the really cool parent picnicking with olives, cheese and bread enjoying their Chardonnay. Seriously? What a trend. Parent your kids. Get a babysitter when the activity is drinking alcohol.


So you've never been to Europe?


THIS. ISN'T. EUROPE.


Ok Karen. We get it. You’ve never been anywhere but Orlando and you do not approve of those freewheeling European ways.


She was even uncomfortable at Epcot.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2019 09:04     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
Anonymous wrote:you were taking a group of kids to a winery????


So sad. Kids don't belong at wineries or beer farms. Kids shouldn't watch their parents get giddy about drinking.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2019 08:52     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
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Anonymous wrote:lol at all the pearl clutchers in this thread!

i've never been to a winery that wasn't full of kids. if you're drinking so much that you can't drive afterwards, then yes, you're irresponsible, but i've not seen this happen. usually one parent has a glass of wine and the other gets to drink more.

many wineries even have special activities for the kids so the parents can relax and enjoy their time.


It’s not pearl clutching sweetie, it’s parenting. Yes let’s rationalize that’s its “European” or wineries have “kids activities”. It’s parenting. Don’t take your kids to the wineries just because YOU want to go to the wineries.


Yes you choose to have kids you need to stick to kid friendly activities- playgrounds, parks, pools, etc. Not venues geared to adults. Although NO ONE should be drinking/driving after a winery visit- stick to one glass or have a DD. Have some consideration for other cars on the road.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 19:27     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
I remember going to wineries with my parents in the late 70s and early 80s. They usually had fresh grape juice or sparkling cider for kids to sample, along with cheese, so I loved it.
My parents are not heavy drinkers, although they do have a glass of wine at dinner. It was more that if we we touring an area, we see all the sites for that area, and if the wineries were a big component of that region, we’d do that. (Like touring Hershey in Pa!)
I’ve never done it with my own kids but it sounds fun. Are the people who are opposed to this also opposed to having a glass of wine while out at dinner with your kids?
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 18:53     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
Anonymous wrote:I’m always surprised by how anti alcohol dcum is. I wonder if it’s due to religious beliefs? Dcum seems to have a lot of Muslims (which makes sense due to our dc population. And this isn’t an anti Muslim comment).


Cultural, medical, and personal considerations I think more than religion. Some may be sober, some may have a history of disease in their family, or unable to drink because of a certain medication treatment plan. Just my guess of other potential contributions to this stance, religion aside.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 17:17     Subject: Re:Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
Anonymous wrote:NP - so what are the good kid-friendly wineries in the region?


Yes, I’d like to know too. I’ve never been to a winery but it sounds like fun. What are some good ones for people with elementary aged kids?
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 16:51     Subject: Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
Anonymous wrote:I’m always surprised by how anti alcohol dcum is. I wonder if it’s due to religious beliefs? Dcum seems to have a lot of Muslims (which makes sense due to our dc population. And this isn’t an anti Muslim comment).

Yeah, good point. donald doesn't drink either. Maybe he's Muslim.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2019 16:35     Subject: Re:Mother's Day ideas in the rain :(
NP - so what are the good kid-friendly wineries in the region?