Are all of these White people? Just very curious.

spent my lunch reading that. I got the gist of it - but it was very confusing. i hope my kid wouldn't be swayed by someone like that - but who knows! he sounds like a master manipulator.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, do not expect ANY supervision from colleges regarding social or even criminal behavior. The US Supreme Court discouraged "in loco parentis" in the 1970s. Now colleges are advised not to set any precedents by setting or enforcing rules on conduct. It's gotten much worse since 2000.
Your college kid is on their own - totally.

Maybe because they aren't 'kids'. If you're in college and staying in college housing you're an adult/18. Since they were sophomores these women had to be 19 or 20. Smart enough for at least ONE of the 8 housemates to note this wasn't right.

And where was this felon's parole officer in all of this?

not everyone becomes adult at 18. also, going to school while someone else pays the bills is hardly conduces to growing up. 'college experience' in the US is completely screwed up.

I agree. Until the 1970s, and in many cases later, colleges took some responsibility for supervising the millions of young adults living on their campuses. Most parents still expect some degree of supervision and colleges are not forthright about their denial of any responsibility for the behavior that goes on in their dorms and elsewhere. Many are now getting out of the housing business for this reason but that's still a long way off. Some will no longer even call parents if their child is hospitalized with a life threatening condition.

Anonymous wrote:I’d never let my kid go there.

I’m not so sure this particular school’s lax oversight is that unique.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, do not expect ANY supervision from colleges regarding social or even criminal behavior. The US Supreme Court discouraged "in loco parentis" in the 1970s. Now colleges are advised not to set any precedents by setting or enforcing rules on conduct. It's gotten much worse since 2000.
Your college kid is on their own - totally.

Maybe because they aren't 'kids'. If you're in college and staying in college housing you're an adult/18. Since they were sophomores these women had to be 19 or 20. Smart enough for at least ONE of the 8 housemates to note this wasn't right.

And where was this felon's parole officer in all of this?

I still think the school had some responsibility here. Even if they all were technically adults, if I am a tenant in a building and some unauthorized person has moved in, I can complain and I think my landlord has a duty to evict that person. Is it not a violation of the rules of the dorm? Isn't there some rule that tenants must be students? I know some students who dropped out/left school and the schools were quick to kick them out the dorms on the grounds that they were no longer students.

This. I don't get why some posters are saying that these are all adults and there was nothing the school could have done. People are paying money for room and board. With that payment comes some expectations of the building being appropriately managed. I tend to think people tend to be over-protective about their college students, but I honestly would have serious qualms about my kid attending that school at this point. There's a lot that is beyond the control of a school, but this was, and they utterly failed due diligence. Shame on them.

I’d never let my kid go there.

What a crazy article! I'd never heard this story and now I want to know more. It blows my mind how many promising lives he ruined...

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, do not expect ANY supervision from colleges regarding social or even criminal behavior. The US Supreme Court discouraged "in loco parentis" in the 1970s. Now colleges are advised not to set any precedents by setting or enforcing rules on conduct. It's gotten much worse since 2000.
Your college kid is on their own - totally.

Maybe because they aren't 'kids'. If you're in college and staying in college housing you're an adult/18. Since they were sophomores these women had to be 19 or 20. Smart enough for at least ONE of the 8 housemates to note this wasn't right.

And where was this felon's parole officer in all of this?

I still think the school had some responsibility here. Even if they all were technically adults, if I am a tenant in a building and some unauthorized person has moved in, I can complain and I think my landlord has a duty to evict that person. Is it not a violation of the rules of the dorm? Isn't there some rule that tenants must be students? I know some students who dropped out/left school and the schools were quick to kick them out the dorms on the grounds that they were no longer students.

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Anonymous wrote:Once again, do not expect ANY supervision from colleges regarding social or even criminal behavior. The US Supreme Court discouraged "in loco parentis" in the 1970s. Now colleges are advised not to set any precedents by setting or enforcing rules on conduct. It's gotten much worse since 2000.
Your college kid is on their own - totally.

Maybe because they aren't 'kids'. If you're in college and staying in college housing you're an adult/18. Since they were sophomores these women had to be 19 or 20. Smart enough for at least ONE of the 8 housemates to note this wasn't right.

And where was this felon's parole officer in all of this?

What could any one of them have done? The school was already aware and ignored it.

There's another roommate mentioned in the article that didn't seem to get sucked in. And the daughter's boyfriend broke up with her because he found the whole thing totally creepy and wanted to get from Larry. So some folks didn't get sucked in.

Anonymous wrote:One of the comments on the article says there’s a companion piece about the writing of the article, but I can’t find it. Has anyone seen that?

http://nymag.com/press/2019/04/behind-the-reporting-of-new-yorks-cover-story-on-larry-ray.html#_ga=2.76632853.1257503288.1556703337-1076541471.1556703337

Anonymous wrote:One of the comments on the article says there’s a companion piece about the writing of the article, but I can’t find it. Has anyone seen that?

Scroll down to the bottom. There is a link at the very bottom.

One of the comments on the article says there’s a companion piece about the writing of the article, but I can’t find it. Has anyone seen that?

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Anonymous wrote:May I raise child who recognizes this insanity in the first 5 minutes.
May I raise a child who says, “ I’m woke, but no, your criminal father can’t crash here.”

All that education, but so little common sense.

My grandfather used to say there is nothing more uncommon than common sense!

Judith Regan, Bernie Kerik, FBI, Giuliani, you can't make this shit up.

Anonymous wrote:The one chick, Claudia, has a pretty nutso website - looks like it is still active:

https://claudiadrury.com/

They didn’t post her last name in the article for a reason.