Anonymous
04/11/2019 14:47
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tragic, but I would’ve gotten far less sleep if we didn’t use the rock n play for our two kids. It was amazing.
Millions of parents have had babies sleeping without this contraption.
Ok. I have absolutely zero regrets about using it. So here we are.
Ok great. But I’ll wager if it didn’t exist you would have figured something out.
But it does exist, and I used it safely...so...
Anonymous
04/11/2019 14:46
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tragic, but I would’ve gotten far less sleep if we didn’t use the rock n play for our two kids. It was amazing.
Millions of parents have had babies sleeping without this contraption.
Ok. I have absolutely zero regrets about using it. So here we are.
Ok great. But I’ll wager if it didn’t exist you would have figured something out.
Anonymous
04/11/2019 13:39
Subject: Re:Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
There are 22 additional deaths that they are still investigating, so it could be a worse story.
Anonymous
04/09/2019 11:22
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
i used the rocknplay (had two in the house!) when my preemie had horrific reflux. She could not be laid on her back, ever. we had lifts on the changing table and the rocknplay was the only way she could sleep. The first time she tried to sit up in it we put her in the crib with a lift under the mattress.
Anonymous
04/09/2019 02:45
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To be clear it's 10 deaths since 2015 and all were 3 months and older who could roll over and the restraint was not used. What is a company supposed to do when consumers won't follow directions.
We used it but only for the first couple months when dd could not roll over or move much.
I had a rock n play lent to me used, so there was no way I could follow any directions.
10 deaths in just 4 years is a LOT. I think the product should probably be recalled. I honestly think that APA should reconsider whether "back to sleep" has caused more infant deaths than it has saved, since so many babies are now killed by unsafe sleeping devices like Nap Nanny and the Rock n Play, or when parents fall asleep holding them.
What???? Human brains are so bad at this. Far far far less babies die from SIDS and unsafe sleep conditions today than 30 years ago. This has been an incredibly successful public safety campaign. These less safe sleep conditions today are used largely by the most desperate or uninformed of parents (instead of all parents!).
The concept of rolling back back to sleep advice because some parents choose not to follow it is nuts.
And im a pp that uses a rock n play when I'm exhausted with a buckle. Risk assessment is just such a difficult thing for people. All of this is on a macro level. On the micro level the risk is baseline very small because the risk of your baby getting SIDS at all is extremely small.
This. All of this. Back to Sleep/Safe to Sleep is one of the most successful public health campaigns of the past 50 years. It changed the major risk factor for SIDS from unsafe sleeping positions to smoking, and brought down the overall deaths dramatically. The U.S. campaign started because of the marked success of similar campaigns in other countries around the world.
The device deaths--which are rare--are not "caused" by back-to-sleep advice; they're caused by people not following it, and specifically, not following it in unsafe ways (e.g., opting for another device and then not following the instructions). That's always going to be an issue, whatever "official" guidance people get.
Anonymous
04/09/2019 00:18
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tragic, but I would’ve gotten far less sleep if we didn’t use the rock n play for our two kids. It was amazing.
Millions of parents have had babies sleeping without this contraption.
Ok. I have absolutely zero regrets about using it. So here we are.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 20:38
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To be clear it's 10 deaths since 2015 and all were 3 months and older who could roll over and the restraint was not used. What is a company supposed to do when consumers won't follow directions.
We used it but only for the first couple months when dd could not roll over or move much.
I had a rock n play lent to me used, so there was no way I could follow any directions.
10 deaths in just 4 years is a LOT. I think the product should probably be recalled. I honestly think that APA should reconsider whether "back to sleep" has caused more infant deaths than it has saved, since so many babies are now killed by unsafe sleeping devices like Nap Nanny and the Rock n Play, or when parents fall asleep holding them.
What???? Human brains are so bad at this. Far far far less babies die from SIDS and unsafe sleep conditions today than 30 years ago. This has been an incredibly successful public safety campaign. These less safe sleep conditions today are used largely by the most desperate or uninformed of parents (instead of all parents!).
The concept of rolling back back to sleep advice because some parents choose not to follow it is nuts.
And im a pp that uses a rock n play when I'm exhausted with a buckle. Risk assessment is just such a difficult thing for people. All of this is on a macro level. On the micro level the risk is baseline very small because the risk of your baby getting SIDS at all is extremely small.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 18:11
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
I know someone whose baby died while in the Rock n Play. It happened before 2015, so not part of this group of babies. It was awful. The cause of death was determined as SIDS, so is unclear whether the RNP contributed to the death or not. The family was in contact with Fisher Price after the death.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 18:10
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is tragic. I never understood how anyone was comfortable doing anything but on their back on a firm flat surface.
Desperation. Some kids wake up the second you put them down that way, for months.
+1.
+2. What are you supposed to do if kid will not sleep anywhere else? You will literally go insane if you don’t get some sleep.
Maybe stomach sleeping would be safer in the end? I don't know, and I don't envy you. My baby slept swaddled in a rock n play until 4 months because he wouldn't sleep anywhere else.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 18:09
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
Anonymous wrote:To be clear it's 10 deaths since 2015 and all were 3 months and older who could roll over and the restraint was not used. What is a company supposed to do when consumers won't follow directions.
We used it but only for the first couple months when dd could not roll over or move much.
I had a rock n play lent to me used, so there was no way I could follow any directions.
10 deaths in just 4 years is a LOT. I think the product should probably be recalled. I honestly think that APA should reconsider whether "back to sleep" has caused more infant deaths than it has saved, since so many babies are now killed by unsafe sleeping devices like Nap Nanny and the Rock n Play, or when parents fall asleep holding them.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 18:08
Subject: Re:Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
My healthy newborn would not sleep on a flat surface, not even pass out from exhaustion. Sorry, I had to sleep a couple hours at night and so did DH. It was either the Rock n Play or in our arms.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 18:05
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Reading all of this, my heart goes out to all you tired mommas who couldn’t get any sleep until the Rock n Play was introduced. That’s rough, and it’s totally dependent on the baby.
And plenty of us dealt with it without a rock and play. They are not safe.
They are not statistically unsafe enough to warrant not using them if child and parent cannot sleep in any other way. Every one of these 10 infants (parents) was using the device improperly by their report.
Exactly. Risk vs benefit: I see little risk in using this in a child who is properly secured and can't roll over, and I benefit greatly from my infant sleeping well. Both my kids slept wonderfully in the RNP as newborns, and both were transitioned into cribs by 6 weeks of age.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 18:03
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
Anonymous wrote:Tragic, but I would’ve gotten far less sleep if we didn’t use the rock n play for our two kids. It was amazing.
Millions of parents have had babies sleeping without this contraption.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 17:15
Subject: Fisher-Price says 10 infants have died using Rock 'n Play sleeper
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Reading all of this, my heart goes out to all you tired mommas who couldn’t get any sleep until the Rock n Play was introduced. That’s rough, and it’s totally dependent on the baby.
And plenty of us dealt with it without a rock and play. They are not safe.
They are not statistically unsafe enough to warrant not using them if child and parent cannot sleep in any other way. Every one of these 10 infants (parents) was using the device improperly by their report.