Anonymous
03/24/2019 11:16
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.
They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.
Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.
http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq
When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.
But they aren’t necessarily the best teams so why would they automatically go into the top bracket?
They dont need to go in top bracket. They just need a special bracket that has all teams agreeing to the DA sub rules.
If US soccer allowed, there would be several DA teams playing in Jeff Cup. On the boys side, they would dominate. On the girls side they would be competitive in top bracket with top ECNL teams like Michigan Jaguars PDA etc.
Anonymous
03/24/2019 10:17
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.
They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.
Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.
http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq
When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.
But they aren’t necessarily the best teams so why would they automatically go into the top bracket?
They dont need to go in top bracket. They just need a special bracket that has all teams agreeing to the DA sub rules.
Anonymous
03/24/2019 10:10
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.
They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.
Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.
http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq
When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.
But they aren’t necessarily the best teams so why would they automatically go into the top bracket?
Anonymous
03/24/2019 08:40
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.
They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.
Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.
http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq
When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.
Anonymous
03/24/2019 07:48
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Anonymous wrote:Spirit MD is a good program. The name is the only thing those spirit programs have in common. I don’t think anyone has ever bashed MD. Why would they?
Also stop putting so much stock in showcase results. These are weekends for uncommitted players to shine. Most coaches are playing kids and not necessarily trying to win the game at all costs.
Clubs get bashed all the time on this forum regardless of results. Spirit MD isn’t bashed because it’s out of range for most on this forum (and I’d argue there are differences between what matters to parents in that area vs NOVA). The level of nastiness against the VA side is really odd and at another level and can be seen across threads on this forum. Look how this thread that doesn’t even involve Spirit VA has been pulled in by the troll.
And we already know there is a person who lives here for the purpose, been established by the Admin and multiple posters who have identified her crap.
Anonymous
03/24/2019 07:44
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.
They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.
Anonymous
03/24/2019 07:17
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.
Anonymous
03/23/2019 21:25
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Anonymous wrote:While it happens you have to remember that at U15 on up this is a showcase not a tournament. There is no real incentive to screw up the brackets to give an advantage.
That is what happens when you use gotsoccer points to group teams. A good ECNL team beat a top-3 nationally ranked gotsoccer team 8-0. It’s a broken system.
Anonymous
03/23/2019 21:20
Subject: Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Hope the players learn from it instead of whining about the bracket placement.
Anonymous
03/23/2019 18:35
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
While it happens you have to remember that at U15 on up this is a showcase not a tournament. There is no real incentive to screw up the brackets to give an advantage.
Anonymous
03/23/2019 18:29
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Cant just be a mistake because the other side of the bracket gave one team the same advantage. One team was on their second game of the day while their opponent was fresh. In that case, it was the host club so I can see they would engineer the schedule to their advantage. But why do it on the opposite side?
Anonymous
03/23/2019 18:24
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Top bracket 8 goal blow out again in U15 so I rest my case. Why would they make one team play two games in a day against another top team that only has to play one that day in a top bracket situation. I really dont get that. How is that good for the team on their second game trying to perform well in front of those coaches when playing a fresh team? Seems very less then ideal.
not trolling. At the start of this showcase journey for first time. That seems like a set up.
not trolling. At the start of this showcase journey for first time. That seems like a set up.
Anonymous
03/23/2019 17:48
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is there already a 6 goal blow out in the top bracket at U15 girls? How do they arrange these brackets?
Maybe one team got caught a couple times early as they settled into the game, then got killed on the counter as they opened up more to try and chase it. It’s a funny old game
Of course. That is fine but in the top bracket? So much time and money spent to attend these things - give good attention to the bracket placements is the point.
Based on general rankings the bracket looked fine. Sometimes it happens.
What rankings? The ones that award edp teams for participating in their league?
Anonymous
03/23/2019 16:30
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is there already a 6 goal blow out in the top bracket at U15 girls? How do they arrange these brackets?
Maybe one team got caught a couple times early as they settled into the game, then got killed on the counter as they opened up more to try and chase it. It’s a funny old game
Of course. That is fine but in the top bracket? So much time and money spent to attend these things - give good attention to the bracket placements is the point.
Yes on the top bracket. So much time and money spent, should’ve prepared better.
Anonymous
03/23/2019 15:37
Subject: Re:Jefferson cup 2019 15-19
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:SpiritVAParent wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Washington Spirit would beat all of them anyways.
Washington spirit 02/03 are the worst team Nationally in the DA....
The reflexive Spirit bashing is a tired theme across this board. (As is the reflexive “Spirit ROCKS!” posting.) maybe this will help dial it down?
(1) Spirit VA is currently in the middle (18/19) or at the bottom (15 and 16/17) of the DA standings, in part due to the fact that they are new and have no established talent pipeline.
(2) Nonetheless, girls on Spirit teams, both MD and VA, are getting decent recruiting results (which is what DA/ECNL soccer is mostly about for girls).
(3) There are parents and girls who are choosing to remain with or move to Spirit VA for a variety of reasons.
They actually like the development trajectory and recruitment prospects for the individual player, so are choosing to stay despite having other options.
Spirit VA is their only option b/c their player wouldn’t be able to make another DA/ECNL team.
Spirit VA is convenient geographically and other options are less so.
They prefer DA and an academy setting, with opportunities to play with other age groups, to other available options.
THey prefer the pro team affiliation.
Etc.
(4) There are parents and girls who are choosing to depart Spirit VA for a variety of reasons.
They do not like the development trajectory for their individual player or where that player falls in the positional rankings.
They want to preference high school play.
They’re done with club soccer overall.
They want to be on a team that is more likely to win.
Some other option is more convenient geographically.
They prefer to be in a league (ECNL) that they think will provide better recruitment opportunities.
Etc.
All in all, YMMV.
I thought the Spirit rocks posts were sarcasm from someone. Add to what you said: there is new leadership at the higher levels of Spirit that will likely change and raise the level of the expectation of teams for next year. The rumor is that one of the changes will be more selective rosters. That will probably change a lot of problems for both the U15 and U17 teams.
I'm guessing new leadership is more interested in cashing checks than changing anything...
I fixed it for you: I'm guessing old leadership is more interested in cashing checks than changing anything...