Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are leaving the current club in FFX, U9 coach is a prick and knew it was time when my DS got into the car after practice and said, "I don't like soccer anymore, it's not fun".

He gives up on the kids when they loose during games, but yet claims he's all about development. He scolds the kids with back handed sarcastic comments during the games. Just an overall bad coach and shouldn't be working with kids. Club however keeps giving him new teams/jobs with hte club. We've paid so we will stay until the end of spring.

Save us the headache and call out the club

PP said "club in FFX, U9 coach".

What more info do you need?

http://www.fpycsports.com/sports/soccer/travel-teams

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PP here. I've also heard of coaches doing this kind of thing--from our coach! "I'm not like this, but OTHER coaches would kick you out (or cut minutes) as soon as they find out you're trying out at other teams." I'm not sure what to make of the veiled threat. If my kid is good and helping you win, you really think that putting him on the bench is your answer?

It's a BS response that tells you all you need to know about a coach or club.

This behavior definitely happens... We saw it twice with our kids. Older one got an offer at an DA club and we went and had a personal meeting with his coach to share the news, etc. Although we were told how great it was that he was moving on/up, he then found himself playing very limited minutes or the remainder of that season despite being arguably the best/one of the best on his team. Even when players on the field were barely moving in the heat and he was fresh on the bench. A few years later, the younger one did what PP mentioned -- just went looking around and attended the actual tryout for ONE other club (much closer to us). When offers went out to her existing team, she didn't get one. We contacted the coaches to follow up and were told that they'd "heard" she was looking elsewhere and didn't want to make an offer to someone not committed to the club. If we were to commit before receiving the offer, they would have then given us one, apparently.... we left....

If I were a coach in your first case "less minutes because leaving team" - I might want to show commitment to the players who might also be potentially leaving but not decided, especially if tryout registrations were low. If they continued to get less time for someone on the way out, I'd be kind of pissed as a player or parent.

As for the second case, that's really different. They might have wanted to make offers in a first round to players who appeared more interested. Also sounds like your player may have been on the bubble and not on the high side of it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

PP here. I've also heard of coaches doing this kind of thing--from our coach! "I'm not like this, but OTHER coaches would kick you out (or cut minutes) as soon as they find out you're trying out at other teams." I'm not sure what to make of the veiled threat. If my kid is good and helping you win, you really think that putting him on the bench is your answer?

It's a BS response that tells you all you need to know about a coach or club.

This behavior definitely happens... We saw it twice with our kids. Older one got an offer at an DA club and we went and had a personal meeting with his coach to share the news, etc. Although we were told how great it was that he was moving on/up, he then found himself playing very limited minutes or the remainder of that season despite being arguably the best/one of the best on his team. Even when players on the field were barely moving in the heat and he was fresh on the bench. A few years later, the younger one did what PP mentioned -- just went looking around and attended the actual tryout for ONE other club (much closer to us). When offers went out to her existing team, she didn't get one. We contacted the coaches to follow up and were told that they'd "heard" she was looking elsewhere and didn't want to make an offer to someone not committed to the club. If we were to commit before receiving the offer, they would have then given us one, apparently.... we left....

If I were a coach in your first case "less minutes because leaving team" - I might want to show commitment to the players who might also be potentially leaving but not decided, especially if tryout registrations were low. If they continued to get less time for someone on the way out, I'd be kind of pissed as a player or parent.

As for the second case, that's really different. They might have wanted to make offers in a first round to players who appeared more interested. Also sounds like your player may have been on the bubble and not on the high side of it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are leaving the current club in FFX, U9 coach is a prick and knew it was time when my DS got into the car after practice and said, "I don't like soccer anymore, it's not fun".

He gives up on the kids when they loose during games, but yet claims he's all about development. He scolds the kids with back handed sarcastic comments during the games. Just an overall bad coach and shouldn't be working with kids. Club however keeps giving him new teams/jobs with hte club. We've paid so we will stay until the end of spring.

Save us the headache and call out the club

Anonymous wrote:We are leaving the current club in FFX, U9 coach is a prick and knew it was time when my DS got into the car after practice and said, "I don't like soccer anymore, it's not fun".

He gives up on the kids when they loose during games, but yet claims he's all about development. He scolds the kids with back handed sarcastic comments during the games. Just an overall bad coach and shouldn't be working with kids. Club however keeps giving him new teams/jobs with hte club. We've paid so we will stay until the end of spring.

Anonymous wrote:

PP here. I've also heard of coaches doing this kind of thing--from our coach! "I'm not like this, but OTHER coaches would kick you out (or cut minutes) as soon as they find out you're trying out at other teams." I'm not sure what to make of the veiled threat. If my kid is good and helping you win, you really think that putting him on the bench is your answer?

It's a BS response that tells you all you need to know about a coach or club.

This behavior definitely happens... We saw it twice with our kids. Older one got an offer at an DA club and we went and had a personal meeting with his coach to share the news, etc. Although we were told how great it was that he was moving on/up, he then found himself playing very limited minutes or the remainder of that season despite being arguably the best/one of the best on his team. Even when players on the field were barely moving in the heat and he was fresh on the bench. A few years later, the younger one did what PP mentioned -- just went looking around and attended the actual tryout for ONE other club (much closer to us). When offers went out to her existing team, she didn't get one. We contacted the coaches to follow up and were told that they'd "heard" she was looking elsewhere and didn't want to make an offer to someone not committed to the club. If we were to commit before receiving the offer, they would have then given us one, apparently.... we left....

Anonymous wrote:We are leaving the current club in FFX, U9 coach is a prick and knew it was time when my DS got into the car after practice and said, "I don't like soccer anymore, it's not fun".

He gives up on the kids when they loose during games, but yet claims he's all about development. He scolds the kids with back handed sarcastic comments during the games. Just an overall bad coach and shouldn't be working with kids. Club however keeps giving him new teams/jobs with hte club. We've paid so we will stay until the end of spring.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's not much upside to talking to your current coach/club about changing teams, especially before you're 100% sure about your next step. Our experience is that sometimes coaches to think that they're the ones in the driver's seat regarding out kids' futures, i.e. we should let them know about trying out somewhere else.

That being said, there's no reason to burn bridges. Just try to keep it a positive experience.

Plus--some are real pr*cks about anyone looking around, even out of curiosity. My kid wanted to check out other Clubs just to see what they were like after two year. All these mo-fos talk to one another, some have scouts at other tryouts or scroll the Clubs tryout pics on Social Media to see if any of their players are there. Then, they take it out on the kid and freeze him/her out for being a 'traitor'. Like they have any sense of loyalty and may have royally screwed the kid over in the past---but it's only for them to do, not another Club.

It is so ridiculous. Any Club confidant in what they deliver and how they treat players and their families would welcome them shopping around. It's no small expenditure and parents making a $1500-3900k investment should reassess every year. And by reassess see if their kids is having fun and learning. Watch some training sessions, etc.

PP here. I've also heard of coaches doing this kind of thing--from our coach! "I'm not like this, but OTHER coaches would kick you out (or cut minutes) as soon as they find out you're trying out at other teams." I'm not sure what to make of the veiled threat. If my kid is good and helping you win, you really think that putting him on the bench is your answer?

It's a BS response that tells you all you need to know about a coach or club.

This behavior definitely happens... We saw it twice with our kids. Older one got an offer at an DA club and we went and had a personal meeting with his coach to share the news, etc. Although we were told how great it was that he was moving on/up, he then found himself playing very limited minutes or the remainder of that season despite being arguably the best/one of the best on his team. Even when players on the field were barely moving in the heat and he was fresh on the bench. A few years later, the younger one did what PP mentioned -- just went looking around and attended the actual tryout for ONE other club (much closer to us). When offers went out to her existing team, she didn't get one. We contacted the coaches to follow up and were told that they'd "heard" she was looking elsewhere and didn't want to make an offer to someone not committed to the club. If we were to commit before receiving the offer, they would have then given us one, apparently.... we left....

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's not much upside to talking to your current coach/club about changing teams, especially before you're 100% sure about your next step. Our experience is that sometimes coaches to think that they're the ones in the driver's seat regarding out kids' futures, i.e. we should let them know about trying out somewhere else.

That being said, there's no reason to burn bridges. Just try to keep it a positive experience.

Plus--some are real pr*cks about anyone looking around, even out of curiosity. My kid wanted to check out other Clubs just to see what they were like after two year. All these mo-fos talk to one another, some have scouts at other tryouts or scroll the Clubs tryout pics on Social Media to see if any of their players are there. Then, they take it out on the kid and freeze him/her out for being a 'traitor'. Like they have any sense of loyalty and may have royally screwed the kid over in the past---but it's only for them to do, not another Club.

It is so ridiculous. Any Club confidant in what they deliver and how they treat players and their families would welcome them shopping around. It's no small expenditure and parents making a $1500-3900k investment should reassess every year. And by reassess see if their kids is having fun and learning. Watch some training sessions, etc.

PP here. I've also heard of coaches doing this kind of thing--from our coach! "I'm not like this, but OTHER coaches would kick you out (or cut minutes) as soon as they find out you're trying out at other teams." I'm not sure what to make of the veiled threat. If my kid is good and helping you win, you really think that putting him on the bench is your answer?

It's a BS response that tells you all you need to know about a coach or club.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's not much upside to talking to your current coach/club about changing teams, especially before you're 100% sure about your next step. Our experience is that sometimes coaches to think that they're the ones in the driver's seat regarding out kids' futures, i.e. we should let them know about trying out somewhere else.

That being said, there's no reason to burn bridges. Just try to keep it a positive experience.

Plus--some are real pr*cks about anyone looking around, even out of curiosity. My kid wanted to check out other Clubs just to see what they were like after two year. All these mo-fos talk to one another, some have scouts at other tryouts or scroll the Clubs tryout pics on Social Media to see if any of their players are there. Then, they take it out on the kid and freeze him/her out for being a 'traitor'. Like they have any sense of loyalty and may have royally screwed the kid over in the past---but it's only for them to do, not another Club.

It is so ridiculous. Any Club confidant in what they deliver and how they treat players and their families would welcome them shopping around. It's no small expenditure and parents making a $1500-3900k investment should reassess every year. And by reassess see if their kids is having fun and learning. Watch some training sessions, etc.