Anonymous
03/04/2019 11:05
Subject: Re:Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Rutgers. It was close enough to come home but far enough to not go every weekend. Plus, there were a ton of DC/MD kids there.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 11:03
Subject: Re:Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to justify an OOS public if you live in Virginia...unless you get substantial financial aid.
Hard to justify an OOS public over any instate flagship U
You don't get out and see the world much, do you?
My kids go to college to study. They can "see the world" after their education. I don't even know WTF that means for students.
It means going to school with students from all over the country and world; living in a location different from the one you grew up in in terms of geography, infrastructure, politics, and people; learning about and understanding points of view that are different from yours.
out of 4000 Unis in this country, tell me 10 schools that don't meet that criteria
Do you mean "those criteria" or "that criterion"? But point taken for the bolded. From a purely academic standpoint, this is probably accurate. The faculty at flagships are generally top-notch and probably more similar than different in expertise and credentials.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 11:02
Subject: Re:Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to justify an OOS public if you live in Virginia...unless you get substantial financial aid.
As someone else posted, UVA tuition is $40K per year in 2019-2020 for engineering. High stats kids can get merit aid OOS. UVA gives very little to no merit aid.
For in-state??????
FAKE NEWS!!!
If only there was a way to check to see what the annual tuition is at UVA. Hmmmmmm ....
UVA TUITION IS $18,870 for first year engineering.
Rat
You forgot to add the $3,000 in fees and the $22,00 for room and board.
Ok, let’s compare total cost of UVA attendance against OOS colleges tuition only. This is a mindless game.
Why? COL is also coming out of my pocket. No reason not to compare all-in costs.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:55
Subject: Re:Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to justify an OOS public if you live in Virginia...unless you get substantial financial aid.
As someone else posted, UVA tuition is $40K per year in 2019-2020 for engineering. High stats kids can get merit aid OOS. UVA gives very little to no merit aid.
For in-state??????
FAKE NEWS!!!
If only there was a way to check to see what the annual tuition is at UVA. Hmmmmmm ....
UVA TUITION IS $18,870 for first year engineering.
Rat
You forgot to add the $3,000 in fees and the $22,00 for room and board.
Ok, let’s compare total cost of UVA attendance against OOS colleges tuition only. This is a mindless game.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:54
Subject: Re:Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:DCis at Purdue and his all incosts (including transportation) are about $43k for OOS. So not much different. No need for merit to be comparable.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to justify an OOS public if you live in Virginia...unless you get substantial financial aid.
As someone else posted, UVA tuition is $40K per year in 2019-2020 for engineering. High stats kids can get merit aid OOS. UVA gives very little to no merit aid.
Agree. Many out of state options are in the low to mid $20's and have cheaper room and board. Throw in some merit and you have yourself a deal.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:52
Subject: Re:Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to justify an OOS public if you live in Virginia...unless you get substantial financial aid.
As someone else posted, UVA tuition is $40K per year in 2019-2020 for engineering. High stats kids can get merit aid OOS. UVA gives very little to no merit aid.
For in-state??????
FAKE NEWS!!!
If only there was a way to check to see what the annual tuition is at UVA. Hmmmmmm ....
UVA TUITION IS $18,870 for first year engineering.
You forgot to add the $3,000 in fees and the $22,00 for room and board.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:50
Subject: Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
DD loves Pitt - she is a freshman their.
During her process, she really was impressed by JMU - if your child does not want to be in a city, that is a really nice option.
During her process, she really was impressed by JMU - if your child does not want to be in a city, that is a really nice option.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:50
Subject: Re:Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to justify an OOS public if you live in Virginia...unless you get substantial financial aid.
Hard to justify an OOS public over any instate flagship U
You don't get out and see the world much, do you?
My kids go to college to study. They can "see the world" after their education. I don't even know WTF that means for students.
Or they could do both in college - a novel idea.
To each their own. My kids grew up in a big metropolitan area and don't want anything smaller.
not possible if your kid wants to maintain high GPA in STEM fields - class works, research work, studying takes every min of their time
Study every minute of their time?
What the???? Who are you crazy tiger mom. Chill the F out. Your poor kids much be so F'ing anxious and depressed.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:48
Subject: Re:Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to justify an OOS public if you live in Virginia...unless you get substantial financial aid.
As someone else posted, UVA tuition is $40K per year in 2019-2020 for engineering. High stats kids can get merit aid OOS. UVA gives very little to no merit aid.
For in-state??????
FAKE NEWS!!!
If only there was a way to check to see what the annual tuition is at UVA. Hmmmmmm ....
UVA TUITION IS $18,870 for first year engineering.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:48
Subject: Re:Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
DCis at Purdue and his all incosts (including transportation) are about $43k for OOS. So not much different. No need for merit to be comparable.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to justify an OOS public if you live in Virginia...unless you get substantial financial aid.
As someone else posted, UVA tuition is $40K per year in 2019-2020 for engineering. High stats kids can get merit aid OOS. UVA gives very little to no merit aid.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:47
Subject: Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know... I generally find OOS public is a dumb idea unless you are talking Berkeley and other schools at that level.
In some ways I agree, but I suspect for a very different reason. I agree that there are plenty of fantastic OOS public universities. But, in this area, I think in-state options are at least as good in nearly every area. In most cases, it would be hard to justify paying much more to go OOS, unless admission to flagship is an issue (which is a valid concern), or even IS tuition is too high for a very high stat kid who might be able to get serious merit elsewhere.
There are OOS schools that it costs cheaper than in state, when offered merit scholarships. Virginia in-states are no where near urban areas and UMCP is the only decent in-state option and it is in thugville, has moldy dorms, and cost of off-campus housing is outrageous.
There are so many really nice OOS options in urban areas (Arizona State, UCLA, Minnesota, Washington, Pitt, UT Austin, CUNY Barnard) nd many in areas with places you would want to visit on weekends. This generation wants more to do than the typical frat party vibe all weekend in the boonies. Having urban areas, culture, weekend trip options, etc... is really nice. And going to another area f the country is a positive.
Moldy dorms are found on other campuses as well. Cost of off-campus housing in any city will be high. You don't think UCLA has expensive off-campus housing? Students live 4 to a bedroom there in and around Westwood (at least this was the case about 15 yrs ago). It is somewhat of a commuter school but a great school so you deal with these things.
LA is one of the largest cities in the country
College Park is a shit town
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:46
Subject: Re:Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hard to justify an OOS public if you live in Virginia...unless you get substantial financial aid.
Even harder to justify not going to community college for the first two years.
YES - when did this go out of style? Ironically most high school kids don't even work, have ever had a job, or have saved any money. They are sheltered way more than we ever were. And parents just ship them off and pay for it all now. LOL. Our generation is utterly clueless. Living in debt, doing too much for the kids, and teaching our kids to do the same.
Get these kids some financial dependency, a job, and two more years at home before taking off to college. At least they will have an idea of what they want to do and have the means to do it. Then they can go to a killer graduate school too.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:44
Subject: Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:umd instate is only 24k - tuition/room and board
wow - good value compared to uva's instate tuition and fees. damn.
Engineering at UMD is more like $30K. Still less than UVA.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:43
Subject: Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't know... I generally find OOS public is a dumb idea unless you are talking Berkeley and other schools at that level.
In some ways I agree, but I suspect for a very different reason. I agree that there are plenty of fantastic OOS public universities. But, in this area, I think in-state options are at least as good in nearly every area. In most cases, it would be hard to justify paying much more to go OOS, unless admission to flagship is an issue (which is a valid concern), or even IS tuition is too high for a very high stat kid who might be able to get serious merit elsewhere.
There are OOS schools that it costs cheaper than in state, when offered merit scholarships. Virginia in-states are no where near urban areas and UMCP is the only decent in-state option and it is in thugville, has moldy dorms, and cost of off-campus housing is outrageous.
There are so many really nice OOS options in urban areas (Arizona State, UCLA, Minnesota, Washington, Pitt, UT Austin, CUNY Barnard) nd many in areas with places you would want to visit on weekends. This generation wants more to do than the typical frat party vibe all weekend in the boonies. Having urban areas, culture, weekend trip options, etc... is really nice. And going to another area f the country is a positive.
Moldy dorms are found on other campuses as well. Cost of off-campus housing in any city will be high. You don't think UCLA has expensive off-campus housing? Students live 4 to a bedroom there in and around Westwood (at least this was the case about 15 yrs ago). It is somewhat of a commuter school but a great school so you deal with these things.
Anonymous
03/04/2019 10:42
Subject: Tell me your OOS public colleges you truly liked
Anonymous wrote:umd instate is only 24k - tuition/room and board
No, it is about $28,000 and that is before any extra fees for engineering, business, etc... which I think is $1,250 now. Not sure what off campus housing is in Virginia, but comparing Maryland to other in state options as well as out of state, they are by far the highest. I guess people know you can't just randomly live in College Park so they charge people $900 EACH to live in a tiny apartment with 3 bedrooms. And that does not include utilities or food. Oh and you have to pay a 12 month lease. Most other places splitting a 3 bedroom apartment averaged about $500-600 and included all utilities.