Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 18:10     Subject: Re:"You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:From the OP's article:

At least five of the women who were assaulted — in one case, bound with duct tape, raped and stabbed — were attacked not by migrant smugglers, who are often the perpetrators, but by on-duty Border Patrol agents and Customs officers.




Helps to follow links:

But instead of taking them in for processing, the agent, Esteban Manzanares, had driven them to an isolated, wooded area 16 miles outside the border city of McAllen, Tex. There he sexually assaulted the friend and viciously attacked her and her mother, twisting their necks, slashing their wrists and leaving them, finally, to bleed in the brush. Then he led the 14-year-old girl to the tree.

So I guess the guy's name wasn't 'John Smith'




Why does his name matter?


Because the narrative here is 'white male is more dangerous'. It's important, then to make the distinction.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 18:09     Subject: "You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it. No one says illegal immigration is good. You will not fix illegal immigration until countries in South America, Central America, and Mexico provide a safe environment, stable economy, and most importantly hope. Americans do not know what it is to not have hope.


Sure you can. The key is to stop them from coming here. It will take too long to fix all that is wrong there. They need to venture south instead of north.


+1
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 18:08     Subject: "You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it. No one says illegal immigration is good. You will not fix illegal immigration until countries in South America, Central America, and Mexico provide a safe environment, stable economy, and most importantly hope. Americans do not know what it is to not have hope.


And what, exactly, are South and Central America and Mexico doing to provide these things to THEIR people? Why are WE somehow to blame? Hint: we're not.


Well if you’re not motivated morally then how about financially? Cheaper to lift them up home than pay for them here.

Amoral scum.


DP. We already give these countries money. Should we throw more money at them? Do they use it in a way that brings about meaningful change in their societies? It's interesting how so many people say the US should stay out of the affairs of other countries and that we cause more problems than we help, and in the next breath, say that we have an obligation to help them.


Precisely this.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 18:07     Subject: Re:"You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:From the OP's article:

At least five of the women who were assaulted — in one case, bound with duct tape, raped and stabbed — were attacked not by migrant smugglers, who are often the perpetrators, but by on-duty Border Patrol agents and Customs officers.




Helps to follow links:

But instead of taking them in for processing, the agent, Esteban Manzanares, had driven them to an isolated, wooded area 16 miles outside the border city of McAllen, Tex. There he sexually assaulted the friend and viciously attacked her and her mother, twisting their necks, slashing their wrists and leaving them, finally, to bleed in the brush. Then he led the 14-year-old girl to the tree.

So I guess the guy's name wasn't 'John Smith'



Why does his name matter?

Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 18:05     Subject: Re:"You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
jsteele wrote:From the OP's article:

At least five of the women who were assaulted — in one case, bound with duct tape, raped and stabbed — were attacked not by migrant smugglers, who are often the perpetrators, but by on-duty Border Patrol agents and Customs officers.




Helps to follow links:

But instead of taking them in for processing, the agent, Esteban Manzanares, had driven them to an isolated, wooded area 16 miles outside the border city of McAllen, Tex. There he sexually assaulted the friend and viciously attacked her and her mother, twisting their necks, slashing their wrists and leaving them, finally, to bleed in the brush. Then he led the 14-year-old girl to the tree.

So I guess the guy's name wasn't 'John Smith'
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 18:05     Subject: "You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it. No one says illegal immigration is good. You will not fix illegal immigration until countries in South America, Central America, and Mexico provide a safe environment, stable economy, and most importantly hope. Americans do not know what it is to not have hope.


Sure you can. The key is to stop them from coming here. It will take too long to fix all that is wrong there. They need to venture south instead of north.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 18:01     Subject: Re:"You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
jsteele wrote:From the OP's article:

At least five of the women who were assaulted — in one case, bound with duct tape, raped and stabbed — were attacked not by migrant smugglers, who are often the perpetrators, but by on-duty Border Patrol agents and Customs officers.




Names please and which country.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 17:56     Subject: "You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:The current illegal system allows most of those countries to remain corrupted.

The border should be shut down for 30 days and see what happens.


+1
Mexico is available to absorb these immigrants.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 17:55     Subject: "You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it. No one says illegal immigration is good. You will not fix illegal immigration until countries in South America, Central America, and Mexico provide a safe environment, stable economy, and most importantly hope. Americans do not know what it is to not have hope.


And what, exactly, are South and Central America and Mexico doing to provide these things to THEIR people? Why are WE somehow to blame? Hint: we're not.


Well if you’re not motivated morally then how about financially? Cheaper to lift them up home than pay for them here.

Amoral scum.


As we've already seen, it doesn't matter how much aid is sent to these countries. They will mismanage it and their people will STILL want to come to the U.S. Look how many billions of dollars are being pledged to these countries: https://www.apnews.com/0fcda32812024680ad98676379c47233

Here's a handy dandy tool for you to see just how many billions have been sent to these countries over the past decade. And what do they have to show for it? Masses of people trying to enter the U.S. https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/GTM
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 17:51     Subject: "You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it. No one says illegal immigration is good. You will not fix illegal immigration until countries in South America, Central America, and Mexico provide a safe environment, stable economy, and most importantly hope. Americans do not know what it is to not have hope.


And what, exactly, are South and Central America and Mexico doing to provide these things to THEIR people? Why are WE somehow to blame? Hint: we're not.


Well if you’re not motivated morally then how about financially? Cheaper to lift them up home than pay for them here.

Amoral scum.


DP. We already give these countries money. Should we throw more money at them? Do they use it in a way that brings about meaningful change in their societies? It's interesting how so many people say the US should stay out of the affairs of other countries and that we cause more problems than we help, and in the next breath, say that we have an obligation to help them.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 17:50     Subject: Re:"You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

As if you care about women who are raped.



You heartless, vile creature. Stop thinking people do not care about anyone who is raped because it does not fit their narrow narrative.



Stop using people like the woman in this article to support your manufactured crisis and lies. Look in the mirror, vile scum.

If you have an ounce of intellectual honesty: who gives illegal immigrants jobs?


both sides.

Yeah, all those farmers vote for Democrats.


illegal immigrants working on farms are not the majority of illegal immigrants in the country.


There is someone on DCUM who is obsessive about farmers and the jobs they "give". I am a Republican and all for seasonal work, fair salary, requirement that your family stay in home country and you go back yearly. Also background check and health check. That would of course require legal entry at a secure border with a visa. Cool?
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 17:47     Subject: "You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:The current illegal system allows most of those countries to remain corrupted.

The border should be shut down for 30 days and see what happens.


You have an issue with corruption? Ha.

Amoral scum x1 million.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 17:46     Subject: Re:"You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

As if you care about women who are raped.



You heartless, vile creature. Stop thinking people do not care about anyone who is raped because it does not fit their narrow narrative.



Stop using people like the woman in this article to support your manufactured crisis and lies. Look in the mirror, vile scum.

If you have an ounce of intellectual honesty: who gives illegal immigrants jobs?


DP. If YOU have an ounce of intellectual honesty: how is the woman in this article being "used" to support lies? Are you saying none of this happened to her (and other women)? Are you saying she's lying??


Would OP have posted about this woman if she were raped back in Guatemala? No, she posted about this women because it inflates and fuels this manufactured crisis.

Fake outrage over a fake crisis.

And let’s say this woman ends up pregnant and wants an abortion. How many MAGA types would support her choice?

Fake support.

Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 17:45     Subject: "You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
The current illegal system allows most of those countries to remain corrupted.

The border should be shut down for 30 days and see what happens.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2019 17:36     Subject: "You have to pay with your body" - illegal immigration
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t get it. No one says illegal immigration is good. You will not fix illegal immigration until countries in South America, Central America, and Mexico provide a safe environment, stable economy, and most importantly hope. Americans do not know what it is to not have hope.


And what, exactly, are South and Central America and Mexico doing to provide these things to THEIR people? Why are WE somehow to blame? Hint: we're not.


Well if you’re not motivated morally then how about financially? Cheaper to lift them up home than pay for them here.

Amoral scum.