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Anonymous wrote:ECNL is roughly 94 clubs to GDA's 65.

ECNL is certainly bigger but even with the addition of the larger big brand clubs the level of competition across the board is not necessarily better. ECNL is diluting its own product as well. Look at what PDA is doing in its own conference, 2 teams in each conference and still dominating. Other clubs like the Hawks are also entering two teams per age group. This is not about ECNL being better, this is about clubs generating more revenue by being able to enter multiple teams per age group.

So as ECNL continues to expand it will of course become diluted. The only way to maintain competitive quality would be to create an A and B version of the league which would create 3 distinct levels between DA and ECNL.

So, I suppose one could crown ECNL a "winner" but does it really matter if your club or team is effectively in ECNL II? The distance between he MLS DA's and the non-MLS DA's is so dramatic that the MLS DA's are considering leaving as is what do you think clubs like the Hawks, PDA etc, will want when they are constantly crushing everyone?

And with 5 VA ECNL clubs how many will realistically be ECNL I level clubs?

This is happening. ECNL is requiring all of its clubs to field an A and B team. The A teams will be in ECNL and the B teams will be in ECNL 2. The A and B teams at all age levels will have the same home and away games against the same opponent on the same day. For example, if McLean is playing NC Fusion, then their respective A teams will play each other on the same day, and their respective B teams will play each other on the same day, in each age group. I personally think this is a bad idea, but it will take place in the 19-20 season. Also, ECNL will begin at U12 starting next year.

As for your other points, you make a good one about the distance between a club like PDA vs. a lesser ECNL club. However, if the elite clubs all shift towards one league over another, then the other league will death spiral as talent flees that league. Also, as many posters like to say, "steel sharpens steel," and there is no doubt that the lesser ECNL teams benefit from playing against teams like LAFC, PDA, MI Hawks, Crossfire, etc. And that is to say nothing of the increased competition among the ECNL Champions League teams. I agree with some of the other posters that the fight for top-dog status between ECNL and DA may already be over.

Great, suck B players into the travel and cost of ECNL in order to play other B players out of state. Parents will pay. Their kid is "playing ECNL now" and gets the patch. Stop the insanity.

You can thank Arlington DA for the latest dilution nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL is roughly 94 clubs to GDA's 65.

ECNL is certainly bigger but even with the addition of the larger big brand clubs the level of competition across the board is not necessarily better. ECNL is diluting its own product as well. Look at what PDA is doing in its own conference, 2 teams in each conference and still dominating. Other clubs like the Hawks are also entering two teams per age group. This is not about ECNL being better, this is about clubs generating more revenue by being able to enter multiple teams per age group.

So as ECNL continues to expand it will of course become diluted. The only way to maintain competitive quality would be to create an A and B version of the league which would create 3 distinct levels between DA and ECNL.

So, I suppose one could crown ECNL a "winner" but does it really matter if your club or team is effectively in ECNL II? The distance between he MLS DA's and the non-MLS DA's is so dramatic that the MLS DA's are considering leaving as is what do you think clubs like the Hawks, PDA etc, will want when they are constantly crushing everyone?

And with 5 VA ECNL clubs how many will realistically be ECNL I level clubs?

This is happening. ECNL is requiring all of its clubs to field an A and B team. The A teams will be in ECNL and the B teams will be in ECNL 2. The A and B teams at all age levels will have the same home and away games against the same opponent on the same day. For example, if McLean is playing NC Fusion, then their respective A teams will play each other on the same day, and their respective B teams will play each other on the same day, in each age group. I personally think this is a bad idea, but it will take place in the 19-20 season. Also, ECNL will begin at U12 starting next year.

As for your other points, you make a good one about the distance between a club like PDA vs. a lesser ECNL club. However, if the elite clubs all shift towards one league over another, then the other league will death spiral as talent flees that league. Also, as many posters like to say, "steel sharpens steel," and there is no doubt that the lesser ECNL teams benefit from playing against teams like LAFC, PDA, MI Hawks, Crossfire, etc. And that is to say nothing of the increased competition among the ECNL Champions League teams. I agree with some of the other posters that the fight for top-dog status between ECNL and DA may already be over.

Great, suck B players into the travel and cost of ECNL in order to play other B players out of state. Parents will pay. Their kid is "playing ECNL now" and gets the patch. Stop the insanity.

Anonymous wrote:I posted about not having a dog in the fight but I am ow realizing that the people attacking FCV players must be kids. How else do you explain such immature behavior?

A strong ECNL and DA is a good thing. The more players that can train with the resources provided by both platforms the more women's soccer will evolve.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL is roughly 94 clubs to GDA's 65.

ECNL is certainly bigger but even with the addition of the larger big brand clubs the level of competition across the board is not necessarily better. ECNL is diluting its own product as well. Look at what PDA is doing in its own conference, 2 teams in each conference and still dominating. Other clubs like the Hawks are also entering two teams per age group. This is not about ECNL being better, this is about clubs generating more revenue by being able to enter multiple teams per age group.

So as ECNL continues to expand it will of course become diluted. The only way to maintain competitive quality would be to create an A and B version of the league which would create 3 distinct levels between DA and ECNL.

So, I suppose one could crown ECNL a "winner" but does it really matter if your club or team is effectively in ECNL II? The distance between he MLS DA's and the non-MLS DA's is so dramatic that the MLS DA's are considering leaving as is what do you think clubs like the Hawks, PDA etc, will want when they are constantly crushing everyone?

And with 5 VA ECNL clubs how many will realistically be ECNL I level clubs?

This is happening. ECNL is requiring all of its clubs to field an A and B team. The A teams will be in ECNL and the B teams will be in ECNL 2. The A and B teams at all age levels will have the same home and away games against the same opponent on the same day. For example, if McLean is playing NC Fusion, then their respective A teams will play each other on the same day, and their respective B teams will play each other on the same day, in each age group. I personally think this is a bad idea, but it will take place in the 19-20 season. Also, ECNL will begin at U12 starting next year.

As for your other points, you make a good one about the distance between a club like PDA vs. a lesser ECNL club. However, if the elite clubs all shift towards one league over another, then the other league will death spiral as talent flees that league. Also, as many posters like to say, "steel sharpens steel," and there is no doubt that the lesser ECNL teams benefit from playing against teams like LAFC, PDA, MI Hawks, Crossfire, etc. And that is to say nothing of the increased competition among the ECNL Champions League teams. I agree with some of the other posters that the fight for top-dog status between ECNL and DA may already be over.

Anonymous wrote:07 Mom getting mad because someone called her out on her constant attacks on FCV. Rather than say “sorry,” she has to make it personal. Just let it go and enjoy your weekend.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no horse in this battle but I will attack you personally for attacking a team of 7th and 8th graders. You are a full moron. FCV is a competitive club that left ECNL for DA. Say what you want about its culture but I think FCV is the only DC area club that has the potential to place a former player on the WNT. Even the FCV 05 time is still one of the top teams in the nation and any local coach of an 05 team will tell you as much. Back off. If you want to attack the parents then attack the parents.

Why stop there? They have fully attacked other Club’s 05 teams and even ‘08 and ‘09 teams in this forum.

Anonymous wrote:I have no horse in this battle but I will attack you personally for attacking a team of 7th and 8th graders. You are a full moron. FCV is a competitive club that left ECNL for DA. Say what you want about its culture but I think FCV is the only DC area club that has the potential to place a former player on the WNT. Even the FCV 05 time is still one of the top teams in the nation and any local coach of an 05 team will tell you as much. Back off. If you want to attack the parents then attack the parents.