Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 10:32     Subject: Re:What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. I'm not white. But I'm a PhD who can read the writing on the wall for public MS from my Capitol Hill home. Our bubble will probably burst shortly, as 5th grade at Maury draws to a close after 8 good years in the school community.

*Our odds of getting into Latin without an older sibling to pull our younger child in stink

*We may or may not crack BASIS either. Even if we do, the program is unlikely to work for at least one or children (not great at math, loves sports).

*We almost certainly won't have access to Stuart Hobson, Deal or Hardy.

Our only public MS option in DC is likely to be Eliot-Hine. The school has a proficiency pass rate in the teens and lacks honors classes. Other Maury upper grades parents will choose EH. More power to them.

Come on, most UMC parents this city "think like" us. If we have to move for MS to feel good about a program, so be it.


Agree to this. But I do try to help the future by engaging in commmunity meetings, supporting the local middle school, etc. It won’t help my kids- but maybe it will help future cohorts.


Right. Another one of those who wants to change the world, just without changing *their* world. Got it. You are all full of crap.


You're a sanctimonious drag.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 10:31     Subject: Re:What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
Hundreds of UMC families in this city with children in acceptable public elementary schools will be faced with middle school choices with little or no appeal once lottery results come out in next month.

PPs like the "racist dog whistle" poster above can call us names to try to shame us into agreeing with them, or just shut us up.

Alternatively, the discussion can turn constructively to how school system leaders and city politicians are largely to blame for our failure to enroll in a DC public middle school, and what can be done about that in the short, medium and long term.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 10:29     Subject: Re:What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. I'm not white. But I'm a PhD who can read the writing on the wall for public MS from my Capitol Hill home. Our bubble will probably burst shortly, as 5th grade at Maury draws to a close after 8 good years in the school community.

*Our odds of getting into Latin without an older sibling to pull our younger child in stink

*We may or may not crack BASIS either. Even if we do, the program is unlikely to work for at least one or children (not great at math, loves sports).

*We almost certainly won't have access to Stuart Hobson, Deal or Hardy.

Our only public MS option in DC is likely to be Eliot-Hine. The school has a proficiency pass rate in the teens and lacks honors classes. Other Maury upper grades parents will choose EH. More power to them.

Come on, most UMC parents this city "think like" us. If we have to move for MS to feel good about a program, so be it.


Agree to this. But I do try to help the future by engaging in commmunity meetings, supporting the local middle school, etc. It won’t help my kids- but maybe it will help future cohorts.


Right. Another one of those who wants to change the world, just without changing *their* world. Got it. You are all full of crap.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 10:18     Subject: Re:What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
Anonymous wrote:NP. I'm not white. But I'm a PhD who can read the writing on the wall for public MS from my Capitol Hill home. Our bubble will probably burst shortly, as 5th grade at Maury draws to a close after 8 good years in the school community.

*Our odds of getting into Latin without an older sibling to pull our younger child in stink

*We may or may not crack BASIS either. Even if we do, the program is unlikely to work for at least one or children (not great at math, loves sports).

*We almost certainly won't have access to Stuart Hobson, Deal or Hardy.

Our only public MS option in DC is likely to be Eliot-Hine. The school has a proficiency pass rate in the teens and lacks honors classes. Other Maury upper grades parents will choose EH. More power to them.

Come on, most UMC parents this city "think like" us. If we have to move for MS to feel good about a program, so be it.


Agree to this. But I do try to help the future by engaging in commmunity meetings, supporting the local middle school, etc. It won’t help my kids- but maybe it will help future cohorts.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 09:59     Subject: Re:What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
NP. I'm not white. But I'm a PhD who can read the writing on the wall for public MS from my Capitol Hill home. Our bubble will probably burst shortly, as 5th grade at Maury draws to a close after 8 good years in the school community.

*Our odds of getting into Latin without an older sibling to pull our younger child in stink

*We may or may not crack BASIS either. Even if we do, the program is unlikely to work for at least one or children (not great at math, loves sports).

*We almost certainly won't have access to Stuart Hobson, Deal or Hardy.

Our only public MS option in DC is likely to be Eliot-Hine. The school has a proficiency pass rate in the teens and lacks honors classes. Other Maury upper grades parents will choose EH. More power to them.

Come on, most UMC parents this city "think like" us. If we have to move for MS to feel good about a program, so be it.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 09:00     Subject: What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are very few UMC students in the entire city and they are clustered in upper Ward 3 and a few other spots.

If you are only willing to attend a DC MS or HS with >25% UMC students, you have no literally choice but to go to Hardy, BASIS, Deal or Latin.



Where did anyone (other than the PP and her imaginary friends) state that as a criteria for a MS choice?


What planet do you live on?


Can you read? Or are you too busy searching for racist dog whistles to actually see the words on the page? Not everyone thinks the way you do (thankfully!).
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 06:27     Subject: What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are very few UMC students in the entire city and they are clustered in upper Ward 3 and a few other spots.

If you are only willing to attend a DC MS or HS with >25% UMC students, you have no literally choice but to go to Hardy, BASIS, Deal or Latin.



Where did anyone (other than the PP and her imaginary friends) state that as a criteria for a MS choice?


What planet do you live on?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2019 06:26     Subject: What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
Anonymous wrote:There are very few UMC students in the entire city and they are clustered in upper Ward 3 and a few other spots.

If you are only willing to attend a DC MS or HS with >25% UMC students, you have no literally choice but to go to Hardy, BASIS, Deal or Latin.


Right, and the overwhelming majority of UMC parents in the DC public school system are only willing to send their children to a middle school where most of the students can work at grade level or above (Deal, Hardly, Basis, Latin), or to a middle school with honors classes in academic subjects (Stuart Hobson). Parents would rather move or go private than choose schools where most students don't work at grade level. That's the harsh reality. Few of us want to see it in the lower grades. We love our row houses, and lives downtown.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2019 20:23     Subject: What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
For us, the reason why DCI might not be a good fit is because it's so large and our kid has special needs and would do better in a smaller environment...but I hesitate to give up the guaranteed entry into DCI so we'll go with that. They do have good rep with special needs from what I can tell...within the constraints of IB, foreign language, large school, high-needs pop...
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2019 19:32     Subject: What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
Anonymous wrote:There are very few UMC students in the entire city and they are clustered in upper Ward 3 and a few other spots.

If you are only willing to attend a DC MS or HS with >25% UMC students, you have no literally choice but to go to Hardy, BASIS, Deal or Latin.



Where did anyone (other than the PP and her imaginary friends) state that as a criteria for a MS choice?
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2019 19:28     Subject: What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
There are very few UMC students in the entire city and they are clustered in upper Ward 3 and a few other spots.

If you are only willing to attend a DC MS or HS with >25% UMC students, you have no literally choice but to go to Hardy, BASIS, Deal or Latin.

Anonymous
Post 02/19/2019 19:06     Subject: What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, Haynes and Cap City have been around for a long time and are great. They are hard to get in to at the younger years because of sibling preference.


Many families I know liked Cap City for lower grades - wished for something else for middle school. They might not state have a banner on them that they says they are doing the lottery. But when you talk to them one on one they are.


OP, "Don't fall for the El Haynes and Capital City...are great!" line. Look up the demographics of these schools on the DCPCSB web site. Even the lower schools are only around one quarter UMC. These programs are fine for little kids, but the achievement gap really starts to kick in by 2nd or 3rd grade, along with behavioral problems, harsh discipline or both.

The truth is that what many UMC folks are doing for MS EotP is moving to the burbs or Upper NW if they strike out in the Washington Latin lottery, aren't OK with BASIS intensity, aren't in a DCI feeder (language immersion), and can't afford a private. This isn't just true way up in NE, it's true much further down, on Capitol Hill. At least your chances of getting into BASIS by the start of school are still better than even. But if your kid isn't a diligent, math-loving type, think twice.

Good luck.


How do you happen to have such deep knowledge of what parents at Haynes and Cap City are planning for their kids? Seems a little suspicious to me that you are the confidant of anything close to a relevant sample size.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2019 18:25     Subject: Re:What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
Anonymous wrote:Ha. No problem with not being good at foreign languages at DCI.

DCI students, as well as those coming up the chain in the feeders, are given good grades for speaking and listening regardless. It's considered unfair to penalize students from families where the target languages aren't spoken, where parents can't afford to supplement extensively with tutors, au pairs, immersion summer camps etc.


Sad, funny, true.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2019 17:52     Subject: Re:What are folks doing for MS EOTP?

Anonymous wrote:
At MacFarland the only Spanish-only classes are science in Spanish and social studies in Spanish. The rest is all integrated. So your kids and kids in Spanish speaking classes would be in the same school.

MacFarland is going to have more than 200 students per grade. It’s going to be big enough to have lots of options. It’ll help if your kid who wants Algebra and mine are both there in getting it.



For comparison, what are the Spanish-only courses at Oyster Adams?


At Oyster-Adams, the middle school grades have either math or science in Spanish (one of the two), Humanities and Social Science in Spanish (and a separate Humanities and Social Science in English). Art and Physical Education are also in Spanish. Chinese is in Chinese
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2019 17:40     Subject: Re:What are folks doing for MS EOTP?
Ha. No problem with not being good at foreign languages at DCI.

DCI students, as well as those coming up the chain in the feeders, are given good grades for speaking and listening regardless. It's considered unfair to penalize students from families where the target languages aren't spoken, where parents can't afford to supplement extensively with tutors, au pairs, immersion summer camps etc.