Yes, I know 100-105 is average (whatever average means).
The problem is the kids who are below average- yet not “intellectually disabled”. For example, the kids who would score between 70-85. ( they probably are tested at some point to see if they qualify for special ed). The bad news is that they don’t (absent a qualifying leaning disability). So what happens is they struggle in school and get frustrated and turned off to school....but the “college for all” mentality pushed by the administrators really harms these kids who do need more help, more ideas for a career path, etc.
Hope this makes sense.

Anonymous wrote:My son had multiple “IQ” tests throughout his years in school. (He received special education services for LDs). The scores were typically between 100-105.
He was able to go to a small supportive college and graduate.
He was not in a STEM field and he has not pursued a graduate degree. He now has a full time job with benefits he likes and is happy.

Again, these scores are within the average range. The OP is talking about students with IQs in the low 70s.

My son had multiple “IQ” tests throughout his years in school. (He received special education services for LDs). The scores were typically between 100-105.
He was able to go to a small supportive college and graduate.
He was not in a STEM field and he has not pursued a graduate degree. He now has a full time job with benefits he likes and is happy.

Anonymous wrote:One son has a very high IQ (149) - lasted one semester in college. 2nd son lower IQ (99) - happy as a lark doing great.

My son also had IQ 148. It took him 4 years to finish his Associate Degree, with a 2.8 GPA. You just don't know

Anonymous wrote:My kid has an IQ of 95, which is low average. He gets straight As in school. Please do not judge people on IQ. Humans are complex creatures.

That is not a low average IQ; that is solidly in the average range. Please remember the FSIQ is a composite score. It is quite possible for an individual to have strengths in some areas of functioning (i.e., scores that are in the high average or even superior range) for some areas of functioning and to have other scores that are in the low average range. No one is defined by a single number. NO ONE.

Anonymous wrote:Whoa...would hate for you to teach anyone I know OP. Try to avoid putting people in a box when they are only in the first grade. I'm guessing you are the unfortunate IQ one here.

Feel free to think what you like about me. I'm not the one testing for an IQ and making decisions based on it. It is how the system works. I just wish the school system viewed success in more than one way. Not everyone can or even wants to go to college so therefore stop making it the only path. Our school district has limited options for trades whereas in the past, they had more opportunities. What happens to students is that we push college to the exclusion of any other path. Other countries seem to have different paths at younger ages. By age 18, I think we should have helped students to find their way and not consider it a failure of the school system because they aren't going to a 4 year college.

Anonymous wrote:Where are the trade or vocational schools?
I tried to find some, but Maryland does not seem to have any

What kind of jobs do they train you for?

I am also curious why some people seem so determined to pass judgement on 7 year olds already and categorize them.

Montgomery College, and other Maryland Community Colleges, offer many programs that lead to skilled trades. You can study to be a carpenter, electrician, vet tech, CNA, childcare provider, network tech, cosmetologist, or general contractor at Montgomery College, and those are just a few.

Being ready to enter those programs is part of the definition of "college and career ready".

Montgomery County public schools also has a number of tech options at Thomas Edison High Schools. Students are bussed there for a half day from their local public school.

But yes, 7 is way too early to be making a judgment about the kind of career a 7 year old should have. Elementary school should be about building skills that kids can apply broadly and keeping all doors open.

Anonymous wrote:Whoa...would hate for you to teach anyone I know OP. Try to avoid putting people in a box when they are only in the first grade. I'm guessing you are the unfortunate IQ one here.

Half the country was placed into a "basket" during the last election, and the other half of the country was just fine with their chosen leader playing the politics of division.

Why are you suddenly so seemingly offended?

Whoa...would hate for you to teach anyone I know OP. Try to avoid putting people in a box when they are only in the first grade. I'm guessing you are the unfortunate IQ one here.

Anonymous wrote:My DD had testing that showed her IQ to be in the high eighties. It scares me that I don’t have a good handle on what will and will not be possible for her in the future. I read posts here about how anyone can get A’s in elementary school these days. Well, my kid cannot. I want to encourage her to aim high but I also know that I have to be realistic. No one at the school helps with this at all.

I’m the PP who said upthread that the post about “dummies” was disgusting. I stand by that comment. I have no interest in anything you say once you spit out ugly pejorative. Grow up.

We're in similar shoes. I am also scared of the future. But I am ok with a trade rather than college. I just want her to find her own path, be happy and able to support herself.

Anonymous wrote:The average IQ for college graduates is 105-110. You need to be slightly brighter than average

cite?

Anonymous wrote:I’m really surprised that most people on this thread still put so much stock in IQ tests. Are you aware of the deeply flawed history of IQ tests— regarding both how and why they were developed?

They may be flawed but they are one of the larger components of determining whether or not students receive special education services.

I’m really surprised that most people on this thread still put so much stock in IQ tests. Are you aware of the deeply flawed history of IQ tests— regarding both how and why they were developed?

Where are the trade or vocational schools?
I tried to find some, but Maryland does not seem to have any

What kind of jobs do they train you for?

I am also curious why some people seem so determined to pass judgement on 7 year olds already and categorize them.

* household management (not Dina Coal management)