Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 16:03     Subject: New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Please specify if you are reporting the MCPS percentile or the national percentile. It makes a difference... they used MCPS percentiles for selection.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 15:53     Subject: Re:New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Anonymous wrote:I don't think middle school is a huge deal for these kids' futures. They will all generally end up being successful in life. I'm happy that we just found out my 2nd kid got in but my oldest (who'd been in a CES) did not. I remember feeling so pessimistic about the oldest as middle school started but, until the second half of 8th grade, Silver Spring International was fine. In fact, 6th grade there was fantastic. Now the kid's in a magnet high school and I feel as if everything worked out.
I especially feel as if things will be fine now that the classes are a little more enriched at the home schools.
For the 2nd...
Non-CES with straight As
Non-W feeder Middle School
CoGat - 99 Verbal, 99 Quantitative, 99 Nonverbal
Don't know MAP score but it was 99 percentile


Congratulations! Which program did your child get accepted to? It's good to hear positive perspectives on the home middle schools, too.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 15:49     Subject: Re:New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Forgive me, I'm a bit clueless (I did not grow up in the U.S. system). What are the odds of getting off the wait list for a Regional Magnet Program? One of my twins got wait listed for the Math, Science, Computer Science program at Roberto Clemente MS. His scores seem low compared to what some other folks are posting.

Thanks for any thoughts!
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 15:47     Subject: Re:New thread -- actual MS magnet results
I don't think middle school is a huge deal for these kids' futures. They will all generally end up being successful in life. I'm happy that we just found out my 2nd kid got in but my oldest (who'd been in a CES) did not. I remember feeling so pessimistic about the oldest as middle school started but, until the second half of 8th grade, Silver Spring International was fine. In fact, 6th grade there was fantastic. Now the kid's in a magnet high school and I feel as if everything worked out.
I especially feel as if things will be fine now that the classes are a little more enriched at the home schools.
For the 2nd...
Non-CES with straight As
Non-W feeder Middle School
CoGat - 99 Verbal, 99 Quantitative, 99 Nonverbal
Don't know MAP score but it was 99 percentile
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 15:46     Subject: New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Their goal is to reduce the achievement gap, helping the brightest kids reaching their full potential will definitely makes the gap looks even bigger..Which is not what they wanted..
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 15:33     Subject: Re:New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Anonymous wrote:Looking at all this in disbelief.. Can anyone, please, clue me in as to why MCPS just doesn't open two - or five -- additional magnet classes?? Why is it so hard? I'm sure there's no shortage of qualified teachers.
WTF is wrong with MCPS that it doesn't give a crap about its brightest students??


I don't think it's that MCPS doesn't give a crap. I think there is an assumption that the high-performing students will do fine, even if MCPS doesn't do much for them.

I've advocated for GT education, and the BOE mostly seems unconcerned about the issue, IME.

MCPS is a large, diverse county with a lot of varying needs. High achieving kids are just not a priority.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 15:30     Subject: Re:New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People, obviously the purpose of the magnet program has changed - it is no longer for the brightest kids across the county. Instead, it is for kids who don't have a group of peers in their home schools at their level (and then another cutout for local TP kids in the STEM magnet). Once you accept that, it will be easier to move on. There is no rule that magnets are always for the highest performing kids.


+1


I agree. MCPS has even said this. I'm sure my kid will be a little bummed, because it's always tough to be 'rejected', but I truly don't think it's a huge deal. MCPS is redesigning it's Magnet programs, and it is what it is.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 15:11     Subject: Re:New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Anonymous wrote:People, obviously the purpose of the magnet program has changed - it is no longer for the brightest kids across the county. Instead, it is for kids who don't have a group of peers in their home schools at their level (and then another cutout for local TP kids in the STEM magnet). Once you accept that, it will be easier to move on. There is no rule that magnets are always for the highest performing kids.


+1
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 15:10     Subject: Re:New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Anonymous wrote:People, obviously the purpose of the magnet program has changed - it is no longer for the brightest kids across the county. Instead, it is for kids who don't have a group of peers in their home schools at their level (and then another cutout for local TP kids in the STEM magnet). Once you accept that, it will be easier to move on. There is no rule that magnets are always for the highest performing kids.


This.
I don't understand why anyone argues that the new process is sending children of higher caliber into the magnet programs. They already said that they are seeing a diversity in abilities after the new process. The magnet as we know it is no longer. Let's see how long does the high school programs last before they do this as well.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 15:07     Subject: Re:New thread -- actual MS magnet results
People, obviously the purpose of the magnet program has changed - it is no longer for the brightest kids across the county. Instead, it is for kids who don't have a group of peers in their home schools at their level (and then another cutout for local TP kids in the STEM magnet). Once you accept that, it will be easier to move on. There is no rule that magnets are always for the highest performing kids.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 15:00     Subject: Re:New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looking at all this in disbelief.. Can anyone, please, clue me in as to why MCPS just doesn't open two - or five -- additional magnet classes?? Why is it so hard? I'm sure there's no shortage of qualified teachers.
WTF is wrong with MCPS that it doesn't give a crap about its brightest students??


They are attempting to do this by offering enriched classes at most MS.


But not all. And, it has been unclear how they will choose students for these classes.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 15:00     Subject: New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Received letter today. Results: wait pool for Eastern (which means essentially lottery ticket likelihood of getting in), not recommended for TPMS.

Wait pool does mean she gets into Historical Inquiry into Global Humanities.

Stats: CES school with straight As, W-feeder middle, CoGAT 99th verbal (58 correct out of 64 #/attempted), 97th quantitative (43 out of 45 attempted, 52 total), 99th nonverbal (45 correct out of 57 attempted, 60 total). MAP Fall 2018 was RIT 251 math, 99th, 283 reading, 98th. I can't remember/find PARCC scores.

Bummer.


My kid was also rejected. Not even waitlisted.

CES with Straight As first quarter
Non-W feeder Middle School
CoGat - 97 Verbal, 99 Quantitative, 98 Nonverbal
MAP Fall - 263 Math, 232 Reading

I think my kid will be slightly disappointed, but overall okay with the rejection. Their CES teachers already warned them that last year, there was only something like 5 kids accepted from their CES. Versus the prior year, where there were about a dozen.

Good luck to the rest of you who are still waiting for your mail! Rejection came in a perforated envelope, FYI.


I'm this poster.

As far as demographics, my kid is Asian. No ESOL, no FARMS, no IEP, no 504.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 14:59     Subject: Re:New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Anonymous wrote:Looking at all this in disbelief.. Can anyone, please, clue me in as to why MCPS just doesn't open two - or five -- additional magnet classes?? Why is it so hard? I'm sure there's no shortage of qualified teachers.
WTF is wrong with MCPS that it doesn't give a crap about its brightest students??


They are attempting to do this by offering enriched classes at most MS.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 14:58     Subject: New thread -- actual MS magnet results
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Anonymous wrote:Probably not the right “group” of kids MCPS is after.


OP, are you willing to post your race? If you're not comfortable with that, I can understand. In reality, it shouldn't matter, but I wonder if that is affecting admissions.


That would be illegal.


I doubt they use race as a factor, but geography tells a lot.


People that use geography as an excuse are sour grape losers.



I cannot disagree with you more.

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Reject to both (not even waitlisted)

W-feeder school. 99% on age/grade on Cogat. Currently at CES. 99% MAPs (266 MAP-M, 243 in MAP-R) 5 in PARCC. Straight A's.

We are fine with our home MS, but the fact is that my kid is not even automatically considered for the enriched MS classes is troubling due to the fact of not being waitlisted.


What does this mean: The fact is that my kid is not even automatically considered for the enriched MS classes is troubling due to the fact of not being waitlisted.

What is the real chance that your kid will NOT be allowed into the enriched classes? I'm asking this out of curiosity because I intend to speak up if my kid is not offered those classes.


The fact is you are now at the mercy of the MS principal. No one knows what the process is.


Some of the MSs in that list posted up thread have 60 or so kids performing at a high level. Will those schools offer two sections of the ‘enriched’ classes to meet the needs of all this students? It will it be one class and the rest of the kids are just placed in regular classes?



I can imagine it's tough then with 60 kids performing at a high-level at multiple schools espeically since there are a grand total of what 200-300 magnet seats?
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2019 14:57     Subject: New thread -- actual MS magnet results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Probably not the right “group” of kids MCPS is after.


OP, are you willing to post your race? If you're not comfortable with that, I can understand. In reality, it shouldn't matter, but I wonder if that is affecting admissions.


That would be illegal.


I doubt they use race as a factor, but geography tells a lot.


Yes, since much of the county is still segregated.