There is an online calendar with "testing windows."

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/sharedaccountability/testing/ES_EvidenceofLearningTimeline.pdf

Our ES teacher lets us know, because some of the kids get freaked out. It comes up with my MS kid when I ask "what did you do in math class today?"

Anonymous wrote:Once at the end of the year should be enough to demonstrate cumulative knowledge from the year. The fall one makes no sense - do they really need to take class time and stress to determine if the students had a summer slide? The winter one is also silly because there's months more of education to go.

Do schools actually tell the parents when testing is going to occur? My kid is young (1st grade) but the teacher has never mentioned it. I've just seen scores appear in the portal.

Once at the end of the year should be enough to demonstrate cumulative knowledge from the year. The fall one makes no sense - do they really need to take class time and stress to determine if the students had a summer slide? The winter one is also silly because there's months more of education to go.

Anonymous wrote:Due to the nature of the test, kids who are good at math will get difficult questions which inevitably would take longer than an hour to complete. Limiting time is a grave mistake on MAP tests for MCPS. MAP results are indeed used for class grouping (whether you are aiming at the magnet or not). The test was not designed to have time limitation, and putting one on it nullifies that merits of the test. If MCPS deems the test as too time consuming, then they either should administer it only once a year, or alltogether find another test to measure achievement.

I agree with all of this. I don't think students are well served with getting the MAP test 3 times a year - once is enough, twice is plenty. And I want the test administered AS IT WAS INTENDED, UNTIMED.

Anonymous wrote:Due to the nature of the test, kids who are good at math will get difficult questions which inevitably would take longer than an hour to complete. Limiting time is a grave mistake on MAP tests for MCPS. MAP results are indeed used for class grouping (whether you are aiming at the magnet or not). The test was not designed to have time limitation, and putting one on it nullifies that merits of the test. If MCPS deems the test as too time consuming, then they either should administer it only once a year, or alltogether find another test to measure achievement.

Yes. Why administer it 3x a year if it’s not being done properly. Do it once or even twice but do it well.

Due to the nature of the test, kids who are good at math will get difficult questions which inevitably would take longer than an hour to complete. Limiting time is a grave mistake on MAP tests for MCPS. MAP results are indeed used for class grouping (whether you are aiming at the magnet or not). The test was not designed to have time limitation, and putting one on it nullifies that merits of the test. If MCPS deems the test as too time consuming, then they either should administer it only once a year, or alltogether find another test to measure achievement.

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Anonymous wrote: Seriously? Why does every questioning of process and policy have to turn into a claim of discrimination against Asians?

+1 Are MAP tests even reported outside the school? They are used to measure progress of individual students.

They are used with other markers of achievement to determine access to higher level classes and enrichment, so yes, they do matter.

Anonymous wrote: Seriously? Why does every questioning of process and policy have to turn into a claim of discrimination against Asians?

Because MCPS has a pattern of discriminating openly against that community. No invented this, PP, that's what MCPS actually does.

Seriously? Why does every questioning of process and policy have to turn into a claim of discrimination against Asians?

Well there does seem to be a pattern to the actions that MCPS takes and they have been pretty public about their concern for Asians being over represented in the highest performing categories. At our ES our principal would make a huge deal out of not allowing PTA events the weeks during PARCC because every kid should be going to bed at 7pm to perform well on the tests. Several parents thought it was odd that she would always schedule the MAP tests for the day after Lunar New Year. Some parents complained but she told them that MAP tests don't matter and she would avoid announcing the dates so parents wouldn't know until afterwards. It was weird.

If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck....

Anonymous wrote: Seriously? Why does every questioning of process and policy have to turn into a claim of discrimination against Asians?

+1 Are MAP tests even reported outside the school? They are used to measure progress of individual students.

Seriously? Why does every questioning of process and policy have to turn into a claim of discrimination against Asians?

MCPS policies are anti-high-performing kids, and also anti-Asian.

Why?

Because they are willing to go to unethical lengths to reduce the so-called achievement gap.

Once you cap all the top scores by restricting the length of time for the MAP test, the under-performing students won't look so under-performing, after all!

Your school's test coordinator should refer to page 7 of the MCPS MAP Test Coordinator's Manual for 2018. It states that it is up to the school's discretion to allow students to take longer than the suggested testing times. The manual does indicate that students who take longer don't necessarily perform better which has been the exact opposite message schools have been sent by central office for the last ten years.

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Anonymous wrote:My son in MS reported this year that his teacher gave him extra time but told him that admins only want kids to take up to 1 hr. I don't want to get her in trouble so won't name school but it is one of the schools identified as having a large peer cohort during the magnet admissions fiasco last year.

It wouldn't get her in trouble because that's what admins told her. Teachers are just doing their jobs; they don't have any say in what comes down from the central.

NP. Yes it would, because apparently admin wanted the teachers to give only one hour and this one gave extra time to PP's DS. Or else she'd be in trouble for telling parents about the directive at all.

Anonymous wrote:My son in MS reported this year that his teacher gave him extra time but told him that admins only want kids to take up to 1 hr. I don't want to get her in trouble so won't name school but it is one of the schools identified as having a large peer cohort during the magnet admissions fiasco last year.

It wouldn't get her in trouble because that's what admins told her. Teachers are just doing their jobs; they don't have any say in what comes down from the central.