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Just about all these "non-binary" girls will be happily married and straight in due time.

There's always an element of teen girls who for some reason are called to seek the alternative and they latch on to whatever the current alternative lifestyle is of the moment. And that's the LGBT and non-binary is the closest they can come to it. I remember this phenomena from my HS days in the 1990s.

Not everybody in a heterosexual marriage is straight. That is well-known and nothing new.

Whatever. Just ignoring that lots of bored upper middle class white teen girls like to invent alternative identities for themselves for a few years before they go boring and conventional. It's a classic rite of passage.

I wouldn’t say it’s a “classic” rite of passage.

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Just about all these "non-binary" girls will be happily married and straight in due time.

There's always an element of teen girls who for some reason are called to seek the alternative and they latch on to whatever the current alternative lifestyle is of the moment. And that's the LGBT and non-binary is the closest they can come to it. I remember this phenomena from my HS days in the 1990s.

Not everybody in a heterosexual marriage is straight. That is well-known and nothing new.

Whatever. Just ignoring that lots of bored upper middle class white teen girls like to invent alternative identities for themselves for a few years before they go boring and conventional. It's a classic rite of passage.

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Just about all these "non-binary" girls will be happily married and straight in due time.

There's always an element of teen girls who for some reason are called to seek the alternative and they latch on to whatever the current alternative lifestyle is of the moment. And that's the LGBT and non-binary is the closest they can come to it. I remember this phenomena from my HS days in the 1990s.

Not everybody in a heterosexual marriage is straight. That is well-known and nothing new.

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is still a large difference in social norms among artsy cliques vs athletic cliques. My DC's artsy group has a HUGE number of LBGT folks. So many girls identifying as non-binary, even if they still dress like traditional girls and date boys. On the other hand, the male athletes seem to all be identifying as heterosexual. The female athletes also seem to be mainly identifying as heterosexual. There are some exceptions on the softball team. I'm noticed that many female basketball players (WNBA) and ice hockey players also identify as homosexual.

So, it could be the case that the dominant, athletic culture in HS is still heterosexual, but the minority artsy culture has an abundance of LGBT and non-binary kids. Hence the different perceptions and peer influences.

Just about all these "non-binary" girls will be happily married and straight in due time.

There's always an element of teen girls who for some reason are called to seek the alternative and they latch on to whatever the current alternative lifestyle is of the moment. And that's the LGBT and non-binary is the closest they can come to it. I remember this phenomena from my HS days in the 1990s.

^^^you're

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Anonymous wrote:https://qz.com/1014142/a-teen-health-survey-crucial-to-us-public-policy-is-finally-asking-kids-about-their-sexual-orientation/

The above link is an article regarding a survey that the CDC did in 2016, where they tried to determine the % of HS students who are gay or bisexual. They first asked what they consider their orientation to be, then asked the gender of the person they were dating. The survey determined that 8% of HS students are bisexual or gay. For those of you with kids in HS, does this seem right to you? I can believe this might be true just of males, but it seems now that very few HS females identify as straight. I'm wondering if things have changed that much since 2016, or if the 8% is inaccurate.

That is probably HIGH by global standards.

Perhaps you have reason to believe Americans come from a wholly different gene pool...Martians?

DP. It's not that Americans are from a different gene pool, it's that as a society Americans are more accepting of gay or bisexual people. A survey asks people to admit being gay or bi. If you live in a country where there is a significant probability that you'll be seriously harmed or killed, you're not going to say your gay or bi. LGBT people in America still face physical harm, but not to the same degree as in other parts of the world. I'm originally from a country that the prime minister openly advocated killing gay men. In my entire time growing up, I knew one openly gay person and he was physically beaten up on a regular basis. I'm sure there were many more gay people than just him, but they chose not to be open about it because of the potential consequences to their physical safety. I lost track of this person when I stopped visiting the country, so I don't know if he was eventually killed or if the beatings continued.

I can see it.

That pp seems to be setting the stage for ..what are all these poor young men going to do if all the women are turning into lesbains? Incel sort of language. And they are really exaggerating.

Young people experiment, and many guys in high school seem to shy away from dating these days (as they did 30 years ago, when I was in high school.) It's not the 50s, most people aren't getting married at age 18.

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This really sucks for young men. Yeah, I know bi includes an interest in them but not exclusively. How is that going to work when the population is about 50/50 male/female? We are going in the wrong direction as a society. I wonder what will come along to redirect the path. Nature has a way of righting itself.

I have asked about this before on here but never gotten a response. It seems to me that fairly soon this is really going to throw off the dating balance. If a large number of females date other females from time to time, there are going to be a lot of single guys. This definitely seems like something that will have some rather negative societal impacts. Am I the only one who wonders about this?

The quoted PPs should take their rape culture attitudes and shove them up their a****.

How in the hell are you getting "rape culture attitudes" from the above?

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Anonymous wrote:The survey was two years ago. I think there has been an uptick over the past couple years of girls saying they are lesbian or bi. I don't know if it's because I live in a liberal area so it's more prevalent, but it is a lot more than a few years ago, and a lot more than when I was a teen. I don't know if this is true for the rest of the country.

It’s not just in liberal areas. I live in a slightly right of center county, and I would say that by senior year most girls consider themselves to be some sort of variety of bisexual. This was not the case a few years ago.

This really sucks for young men. Yeah, I know bi includes an interest in them but not exclusively. How is that going to work when the population is about 50/50 male/female? We are going in the wrong direction as a society. I wonder what will come along to redirect the path. Nature has a way of righting itself.

Maybe men should make themselves more of a catch. When I watch my peers, I've seen more than one woman divorce a man and get involved with a woman, saying she's never going to deal with men again. I'm not heteroflexible, but I can see the attraction of having a woman for a life partner instead of a man.

LOL so you believe sexual preference is a choice?

NP. Sexuality isn’t a choice, but if you’re bi there’s potential to choose one gender to have long term relationships with.

What about the ancient Greeks? Most of the males were what we would now label as bisexual, yet this behavior has been quite rare in just about every other society that ever existed. Did the ancient Greeks really have a naturally different sexual orientation, or was there something about their society that encouraged males to behave in this way?

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Anonymous wrote:The survey was two years ago. I think there has been an uptick over the past couple years of girls saying they are lesbian or bi. I don't know if it's because I live in a liberal area so it's more prevalent, but it is a lot more than a few years ago, and a lot more than when I was a teen. I don't know if this is true for the rest of the country.

It’s not just in liberal areas. I live in a slightly right of center county, and I would say that by senior year most girls consider themselves to be some sort of variety of bisexual. This was not the case a few years ago.

This really sucks for young men. Yeah, I know bi includes an interest in them but not exclusively. How is that going to work when the population is about 50/50 male/female? We are going in the wrong direction as a society. I wonder what will come along to redirect the path. Nature has a way of righting itself.

Maybe men should make themselves more of a catch. When I watch my peers, I've seen more than one woman divorce a man and get involved with a woman, saying she's never going to deal with men again. I'm not heteroflexible, but I can see the attraction of having a woman for a life partner instead of a man.

LOL so you believe sexual preference is a choice?

NP here. 10 years ago I would have said absolutely not. Based on what I've seen in the past few years especially among HS/college age girls, I would say yes, it certainly can be.

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps there is still a large difference in social norms among artsy cliques vs athletic cliques. My DC's artsy group has a HUGE number of LBGT folks. So many girls identifying as non-binary, even if they still dress like traditional girls and date boys. On the other hand, the male athletes seem to all be identifying as heterosexual. The female athletes also seem to be mainly identifying as heterosexual. There are some exceptions on the softball team. I'm noticed that many female basketball players (WNBA) and ice hockey players also identify as homosexual.

So, it could be the case that the dominant, athletic culture in HS is still heterosexual, but the minority artsy culture has an abundance of LGBT and non-binary kids. Hence the different perceptions and peer influences.

I am a HS teacher and this is the most accurate description of current HS culture that I've seen.

“Men will also become more accepting of bisexuality in men”

No, because m/m sex is much more likely to pass on blood or fluid borne disease, by design. This is how most women ended up with HIV initially, via bi men.

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Anonymous wrote:

This really sucks for young men. Yeah, I know bi includes an interest in them but not exclusively. How is that going to work when the population is about 50/50 male/female? We are going in the wrong direction as a society. I wonder what will come along to redirect the path. Nature has a way of righting itself.

I have asked about this before on here but never gotten a response. It seems to me that fairly soon this is really going to throw off the dating balance. If a large number of females date other females from time to time, there are going to be a lot of single guys. This definitely seems like something that will have some rather negative societal impacts. Am I the only one who wonders about this?

The quoted PPs should take their rape culture attitudes and shove them up their a****.

I’m the original poster quoted in your response. Rape was not even remotely what I was getting at. You really are militant, honey.

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Anonymous wrote:

This really sucks for young men. Yeah, I know bi includes an interest in them but not exclusively. How is that going to work when the population is about 50/50 male/female? We are going in the wrong direction as a society. I wonder what will come along to redirect the path. Nature has a way of righting itself.

I have asked about this before on here but never gotten a response. It seems to me that fairly soon this is really going to throw off the dating balance. If a large number of females date other females from time to time, there are going to be a lot of single guys. This definitely seems like something that will have some rather negative societal impacts. Am I the only one who wonders about this?

The quoted PPs should take their rape culture attitudes and shove them up their a****.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The survey was two years ago. I think there has been an uptick over the past couple years of girls saying they are lesbian or bi. I don't know if it's because I live in a liberal area so it's more prevalent, but it is a lot more than a few years ago, and a lot more than when I was a teen. I don't know if this is true for the rest of the country.

It’s not just in liberal areas. I live in a slightly right of center county, and I would say that by senior year most girls consider themselves to be some sort of variety of bisexual. This was not the case a few years ago.

This really sucks for young men. Yeah, I know bi includes an interest in them but not exclusively. How is that going to work when the population is about 50/50 male/female? We are going in the wrong direction as a society. I wonder what will come along to redirect the path. Nature has a way of righting itself.

Maybe men should make themselves more of a catch. When I watch my peers, I've seen more than one woman divorce a man and get involved with a woman, saying she's never going to deal with men again. I'm not heteroflexible, but I can see the attraction of having a woman for a life partner instead of a man.

LOL so you believe sexual preference is a choice?

NP. Sexuality isn’t a choice, but if you’re bi there’s potential to choose one gender to have long term relationships with.