Anonymous
Post 01/26/2019 21:28     Subject: Re:Synagogue without a political agenda
I’ve had a couple people recommend Shirat Hanefesh. Anyone have any experience with that synagogue?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 14:09     Subject: Re:Synagogue without a political agenda
Anonymous wrote:It’s not that my rabbi is not supposed to talk about that. It’s that I don’t want my rabbi to talk about ONLY that. It’s not that I don’t want Tikkun Olam; it’s that I don’t want ONLY Tikkun Olam. There is so much to be learned from the Torah from a historical, metaphorical, and spiritual perspective. There is so much richness in our traditions and culture. That is the part that I’m missing. The part which is what my son gets at sleep over camp - spirituality, community, song, Jewish learning - is what I’m looking for. Maybe it’s a tall order.


you can find a lot of conservative and orthodox rabbis who want to talk about all the other stuff, yet are still very much activists. R Shmuel Herzfeld at National Synagogue comes to mind - very, very woke guy and congregation, but they are O, so lots of other stuff that they must focus on.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2019 12:36     Subject: Synagogue without a political agenda
Anonymous wrote:It is one thing for a religion to focus on being a good person and worshipping God, completely another for them to dictate your political views and enforce the 'us vs them' mentality, add group pressure and start with excessive demands on your time, money


This
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2019 18:16     Subject: Synagogue without a political agenda
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is one thing for a religion to focus on being a good person and worshipping God, completely another for them to dictate your political views and enforce the 'us vs them' mentality, add group pressure and start with excessive demands on your time, money

How are you getting any of this from the conversation? Neither OP nor any of the responses have mentioned “excessive demands on your time, money” (and my Reform temple doesn’t make either of those demands). Nor are the majority of congregations dictating anyone’s political views or enforcing “us vs them” mentality. At all Three Reform temples where I’ve been a member, social action is discussed and performed, but congregants are of many political parties and backgrounds. As an example, my friend works for the Democratic government of my state, and her (non-Jewish) Republican husband has found a very comfortable home with our community.


I’m guess her non-Jewish Republican husband is not too concerned about the fullness of Jewish spirituality so whatever.

No, but his wife is and he’s both respectful of her needs and a contributing member of our community (both financially and in practice). The conversation here is about whether different points of political views are represented. In my community, they are.


No, the question is whether the political stuff crowds out the spiritual side for OP. Random republican non-Jewish husband doesn’t have a spiritual horse in the race.

My response was arguing with the phrase PP used, that the religion is “dictating your political views” and “creating an us vs them mentality.” I’m pointing out that neither the Jewish religion as a whole, nor the umbrella of Reform Judaism, necessarily do that.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2019 17:52     Subject: Synagogue without a political agenda
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is one thing for a religion to focus on being a good person and worshipping God, completely another for them to dictate your political views and enforce the 'us vs them' mentality, add group pressure and start with excessive demands on your time, money

How are you getting any of this from the conversation? Neither OP nor any of the responses have mentioned “excessive demands on your time, money” (and my Reform temple doesn’t make either of those demands). Nor are the majority of congregations dictating anyone’s political views or enforcing “us vs them” mentality. At all Three Reform temples where I’ve been a member, social action is discussed and performed, but congregants are of many political parties and backgrounds. As an example, my friend works for the Democratic government of my state, and her (non-Jewish) Republican husband has found a very comfortable home with our community.


I’m guess her non-Jewish Republican husband is not too concerned about the fullness of Jewish spirituality so whatever.

No, but his wife is and he’s both respectful of her needs and a contributing member of our community (both financially and in practice). The conversation here is about whether different points of political views are represented. In my community, they are.


No, the question is whether the political stuff crowds out the spiritual side for OP. Random republican non-Jewish husband doesn’t have a spiritual horse in the race.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2019 15:57     Subject: Synagogue without a political agenda
When I was taught of Temple Sinai during the Bush (II) years, Paul Wolfowitz, Rod Rosenstein, and Jamin Raskin were all members. It is not a synagogue where I would want to be a member, but politically, it was diverse - keeping in mind that most Jews skew left/center-left.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2019 12:19     Subject: Synagogue without a political agenda
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is one thing for a religion to focus on being a good person and worshipping God, completely another for them to dictate your political views and enforce the 'us vs them' mentality, add group pressure and start with excessive demands on your time, money

How are you getting any of this from the conversation? Neither OP nor any of the responses have mentioned “excessive demands on your time, money” (and my Reform temple doesn’t make either of those demands). Nor are the majority of congregations dictating anyone’s political views or enforcing “us vs them” mentality. At all Three Reform temples where I’ve been a member, social action is discussed and performed, but congregants are of many political parties and backgrounds. As an example, my friend works for the Democratic government of my state, and her (non-Jewish) Republican husband has found a very comfortable home with our community.


I’m guess her non-Jewish Republican husband is not too concerned about the fullness of Jewish spirituality so whatever.

No, but his wife is and he’s both respectful of her needs and a contributing member of our community (both financially and in practice). The conversation here is about whether different points of political views are represented. In my community, they are.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2019 11:25     Subject: Re:Synagogue without a political agenda
^^^ I’m guessing
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2019 11:24     Subject: Synagogue without a political agenda
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is one thing for a religion to focus on being a good person and worshipping God, completely another for them to dictate your political views and enforce the 'us vs them' mentality, add group pressure and start with excessive demands on your time, money

How are you getting any of this from the conversation? Neither OP nor any of the responses have mentioned “excessive demands on your time, money” (and my Reform temple doesn’t make either of those demands). Nor are the majority of congregations dictating anyone’s political views or enforcing “us vs them” mentality. At all Three Reform temples where I’ve been a member, social action is discussed and performed, but congregants are of many political parties and backgrounds. As an example, my friend works for the Democratic government of my state, and her (non-Jewish) Republican husband has found a very comfortable home with our community.


I’m guess her non-Jewish Republican husband is not too concerned about the fullness of Jewish spirituality so whatever.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2019 10:50     Subject: Synagogue without a political agenda
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is one thing for a religion to focus on being a good person and worshipping God, completely another for them to dictate your political views and enforce the 'us vs them' mentality, add group pressure and start with excessive demands on your time, money

How are you getting any of this from the conversation? Neither OP nor any of the responses have mentioned “excessive demands on your time, money” (and my Reform temple doesn’t make either of those demands). Nor are the majority of congregations dictating anyone’s political views or enforcing “us vs them” mentality. At all Three Reform temples where I’ve been a member, social action is discussed and performed, but congregants are of many political parties and backgrounds. As an example, my friend works for the Democratic government of my state, and her (non-Jewish) Republican husband has found a very comfortable home with our community.

The fact that this thread is about finding a place with less politics

“Less politics” does not directly translate to “my synagogue is dictating my political views, enforcing an ‘us vs them’ mentality, adding group pressure, and starting with excessive demands on my time and money.” That’s a lot of assumptions.

Also, the first few words of your post refer to “a religion,” while OP is asking about a synagogue. Let’s not extrapolate this to all of Judaism, or even to all of Reform Judaism.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2019 06:55     Subject: Synagogue without a political agenda
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is one thing for a religion to focus on being a good person and worshipping God, completely another for them to dictate your political views and enforce the 'us vs them' mentality, add group pressure and start with excessive demands on your time, money

How are you getting any of this from the conversation? Neither OP nor any of the responses have mentioned “excessive demands on your time, money” (and my Reform temple doesn’t make either of those demands). Nor are the majority of congregations dictating anyone’s political views or enforcing “us vs them” mentality. At all Three Reform temples where I’ve been a member, social action is discussed and performed, but congregants are of many political parties and backgrounds. As an example, my friend works for the Democratic government of my state, and her (non-Jewish) Republican husband has found a very comfortable home with our community.

The fact that this thread is about finding a place with less politics
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2019 19:39     Subject: Synagogue without a political agenda
Anonymous wrote:It is one thing for a religion to focus on being a good person and worshipping God, completely another for them to dictate your political views and enforce the 'us vs them' mentality, add group pressure and start with excessive demands on your time, money

How are you getting any of this from the conversation? Neither OP nor any of the responses have mentioned “excessive demands on your time, money” (and my Reform temple doesn’t make either of those demands). Nor are the majority of congregations dictating anyone’s political views or enforcing “us vs them” mentality. At all Three Reform temples where I’ve been a member, social action is discussed and performed, but congregants are of many political parties and backgrounds. As an example, my friend works for the Democratic government of my state, and her (non-Jewish) Republican husband has found a very comfortable home with our community.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2019 19:27     Subject: Synagogue without a political agenda
Rodef Shalom is a wonderful synagogue and community.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2019 19:09     Subject: Synagogue without a political agenda
It is one thing for a religion to focus on being a good person and worshipping God, completely another for them to dictate your political views and enforce the 'us vs them' mentality, add group pressure and start with excessive demands on your time, money
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2019 16:46     Subject: Re:Synagogue without a political agenda
It’s not that my rabbi is not supposed to talk about that. It’s that I don’t want my rabbi to talk about ONLY that. It’s not that I don’t want Tikkun Olam; it’s that I don’t want ONLY Tikkun Olam. There is so much to be learned from the Torah from a historical, metaphorical, and spiritual perspective. There is so much richness in our traditions and culture. That is the part that I’m missing. The part which is what my son gets at sleep over camp - spirituality, community, song, Jewish learning - is what I’m looking for. Maybe it’s a tall order.