Anonymous
Post 12/31/2018 01:01     Subject: Serious MLM question
NP, I like norvex
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2018 00:31     Subject: Serious MLM question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like Younique’s rose mist.
But I am sure if I looked around, there would be a comparable mist somewhere else.

Sha’nnan Watts was very successful in her work for the MLM company Le Vel.
She made lots of commissions selling Thrive products which she heavily promoted.
She also earned the car bonus & was rewarded w/three free trips a year.
San Diego, Dominican Republic, New Orleans + Vega$.
She also got enough people working under her that she got the product for free.

While few and far between, it IS possible to be a huge success in MLM.


Wait, you’re propping up a woman who was murdered by her husband (while she was pregnant and who also killed their 2 young children) as an example of someone successful with MLMs??


And I heard that the husband was stressed about money problems...

Yes, the Watts family was very heavily in debt, had already filed for bankruptcy a few years earlier, and at the time of the murder was being sued by their homeowner’s association for not paying their dues.

Proof that even when people claim to be “very successful” in their MLM, when they plaster their “free trips” and “free car” all over Facebook...it usually just ain’t so.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 23:31     Subject: Re:Serious MLM question
Anonymous wrote:I know there are MLMers here who are in debt or barely breaking even. Please, please read blogs & listen to podcasts about these companies. Cut your losses before you lose more. You are not a failure! Look at the true sales statistics for these companies. The majority aren't making money & so many are losing it rapidly. Don't believe the lies that you will make more money by buying more product. Don't be bullied by your upline. Don't believe all of their lies posted on social media about making sales, free cars etc. You don't make your quota, you are responsible for the lease on that car. Uplines will post about great sales, profits, fantastic handbags they bought with proceeds. It's not real. It's never too late to get out. You aren't stuck. Leave before it gets worse.


AMEN!
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 23:24     Subject: Re:Serious MLM question
I know there are MLMers here who are in debt or barely breaking even. Please, please read blogs & listen to podcasts about these companies. Cut your losses before you lose more. You are not a failure! Look at the true sales statistics for these companies. The majority aren't making money & so many are losing it rapidly. Don't believe the lies that you will make more money by buying more product. Don't be bullied by your upline. Don't believe all of their lies posted on social media about making sales, free cars etc. You don't make your quota, you are responsible for the lease on that car. Uplines will post about great sales, profits, fantastic handbags they bought with proceeds. It's not real. It's never too late to get out. You aren't stuck. Leave before it gets worse.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 23:10     Subject: Re:Serious MLM question
It's pretty simple -- if MLM was so great, why don't "regular" companies sell that way, instead of in retails stores and online? How come Procter and Gamble doesn't sell Tide and Charmin using a network of MLM sellers? What do these MLM people know that P&G does not?

Then go try to join an MLM as a seller. 90% of the pitch will be about how much money you make, and maybe 10% devoted to the actual product they are selling.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 23:09     Subject: Serious MLM question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why? Because it’s an entire system set up to take advantage of unsuspecting sellers. It’s a pyramid scheme. Thousands of sellers are lured in with the promise of making it rich. It’s a scam. They put out thousands of dollars in buying the product, only to realize that the market is saturated and anything they sell provides a minimal return on investment.

I don’t want to be a part of that or encourage that.


Not all mlms are like that. I sell Younique. It cost me 99 for a kit of over 300 worth of makeup. I make 25- 30 % on anything I sell and I get paid off my downline. I don’t have to buy anything else if I don’t want. I use my y cash for my makeup. So I get most of my makeup for free. You can make alot of money with Younique if you are willing to work for it. If you want to be in the top 1 % of the company you have to do what the other 99% are too lazy and unwilling to do.


K. You should read Elle Beau Blog about You.unique. It's a predatory scam like the rest of the MLMs.

I love how posters always try to defend their MLM. "But but MY pyramid scheme isn't one of the bad ones!"
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 23:09     Subject: Serious MLM question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why? Because it’s an entire system set up to take advantage of unsuspecting sellers. It’s a pyramid scheme. Thousands of sellers are lured in with the promise of making it rich. It’s a scam. They put out thousands of dollars in buying the product, only to realize that the market is saturated and anything they sell provides a minimal return on investment.

I don’t want to be a part of that or encourage that.


Not all mlms are like that. I sell Younique. It cost me 99 for a kit of over 300 worth of makeup. I make 25- 30 % on anything I sell and I get paid off my downline. I don’t have to buy anything else if I don’t want. I use my y cash for my makeup. So I get most of my makeup for free. You can make alot of money with Younique if you are willing to work for it. If you want to be in the top 1 % of the company you have to do what the other 99% are too lazy and unwilling to do.


Haha ok. Good luck to you. But understand that 1. You are not a small business owner. 2. You are not an entrepreneur and lastly the company will eventually go out of business so make sure you have a backup plan.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 22:58     Subject: Serious MLM question
Anonymous wrote:Why? Because it’s an entire system set up to take advantage of unsuspecting sellers. It’s a pyramid scheme. Thousands of sellers are lured in with the promise of making it rich. It’s a scam. They put out thousands of dollars in buying the product, only to realize that the market is saturated and anything they sell provides a minimal return on investment.

I don’t want to be a part of that or encourage that.


Not all mlms are like that. I sell Younique. It cost me 99 for a kit of over 300 worth of makeup. I make 25- 30 % on anything I sell and I get paid off my downline. I don’t have to buy anything else if I don’t want. I use my y cash for my makeup. So I get most of my makeup for free. You can make alot of money with Younique if you are willing to work for it. If you want to be in the top 1 % of the company you have to do what the other 99% are too lazy and unwilling to do.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 22:49     Subject: Serious MLM question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like Younique’s rose mist.
But I am sure if I looked around, there would be a comparable mist somewhere else.

Sha’nnan Watts was very successful in her work for the MLM company Le Vel.
She made lots of commissions selling Thrive products which she heavily promoted.
She also earned the car bonus & was rewarded w/three free trips a year.
San Diego, Dominican Republic, New Orleans + Vega$.
She also got enough people working under her that she got the product for free.

While few and far between, it IS possible to be a huge success in MLM.


Wait, you’re propping up a woman who was murdered by her husband (while she was pregnant and who also killed their 2 young children) as an example of someone successful with MLMs??


NP. Did the murder have anything to do with MLM? If not, why does the fact that she was murdered negate her apparent success with MLM?


If by success, you mean on the verge of bankruptcy than carry on. They were having serious financial difficulties and frankly it’s distasteful that you brought her up. Shame the only success story you can think of is her.


Did you miss the "NP?" I didn't make the original post. I had never heard of this lady. The PP claimed that she was successful. The next poster didn't dispute that she was successful with MLM, but said she shouldn't be viewed as successful because she was murdered.

That didn't make any sense to me, unless her murder related to MLM, which is why I asked the question. If she was hit by a bus, she wouldn't be successful in life ultimately, but she could have been financial successful in her MLM ventures.

If she was bankrupt, then that certainly calls into question the PP's assertion that she was a success story, regardless of whether financial troubles played into the murder.


I believe that the financial difficulties were most likely exacerbated by the mlm costs. She was no more successful than anyone else trying to make money from the mlm hype and contrary to pp I believe they paid for those trips and in one ‘sell’ video she was clearly posing in front of a dealership car acting as if Her mlm paid for it. Trying to sell the dream.

That said, obviously her husband is the scum of the earth no matter what the $$ situation was.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 22:34     Subject: Serious MLM question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like Younique’s rose mist.
But I am sure if I looked around, there would be a comparable mist somewhere else.

Sha’nnan Watts was very successful in her work for the MLM company Le Vel.
She made lots of commissions selling Thrive products which she heavily promoted.
She also earned the car bonus & was rewarded w/three free trips a year.
San Diego, Dominican Republic, New Orleans + Vega$.
She also got enough people working under her that she got the product for free.

While few and far between, it IS possible to be a huge success in MLM.


Wait, you’re propping up a woman who was murdered by her husband (while she was pregnant and who also killed their 2 young children) as an example of someone successful with MLMs??


NP. Did the murder have anything to do with MLM? If not, why does the fact that she was murdered negate her apparent success with MLM?


If by success, you mean on the verge of bankruptcy than carry on. They were having serious financial difficulties and frankly it’s distasteful that you brought her up. Shame the only success story you can think of is her.


Did you miss the "NP?" I didn't make the original post. I had never heard of this lady. The PP claimed that she was successful. The next poster didn't dispute that she was successful with MLM, but said she shouldn't be viewed as successful because she was murdered.

That didn't make any sense to me, unless her murder related to MLM, which is why I asked the question. If she was hit by a bus, she wouldn't be successful in life ultimately, but she could have been financial successful in her MLM ventures.

If she was bankrupt, then that certainly calls into question the PP's assertion that she was a success story, regardless of whether financial troubles played into the murder.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 22:28     Subject: Serious MLM question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like Younique’s rose mist.
But I am sure if I looked around, there would be a comparable mist somewhere else.

Sha’nnan Watts was very successful in her work for the MLM company Le Vel.
She made lots of commissions selling Thrive products which she heavily promoted.
She also earned the car bonus & was rewarded w/three free trips a year.
San Diego, Dominican Republic, New Orleans + Vega$.
She also got enough people working under her that she got the product for free.

While few and far between, it IS possible to be a huge success in MLM.


Wait, you’re propping up a woman who was murdered by her husband (while she was pregnant and who also killed their 2 young children) as an example of someone successful with MLMs??


NP. Did the murder have anything to do with MLM? If not, why does the fact that she was murdered negate her apparent success with MLM?


If by success, you mean on the verge of bankruptcy than carry on. They were having serious financial difficulties and frankly it’s distasteful that you brought her up. Shame the only success story you can think of is her.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 22:12     Subject: Serious MLM question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like Younique’s rose mist.
But I am sure if I looked around, there would be a comparable mist somewhere else.

Sha’nnan Watts was very successful in her work for the MLM company Le Vel.
She made lots of commissions selling Thrive products which she heavily promoted.
She also earned the car bonus & was rewarded w/three free trips a year.
San Diego, Dominican Republic, New Orleans + Vega$.
She also got enough people working under her that she got the product for free.

While few and far between, it IS possible to be a huge success in MLM.


Wait, you’re propping up a woman who was murdered by her husband (while she was pregnant and who also killed their 2 young children) as an example of someone successful with MLMs??


NP. Did the murder have anything to do with MLM? If not, why does the fact that she was murdered negate her apparent success with MLM?
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 21:00     Subject: Serious MLM question
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know DCUM hates all MLM. But my question is - why? I understand the annoyance of the fake BS, pushy sellers, #momboss nonsense. But I have to say, some of the products are very good and if the sellers aren’t annoying or pushy, why would you categorically refuse to buy any of it? Honestly curious. You have to admit that not all MLM sellers are terrible, right? I know some who have never even mentioned their products to me, let alone tried to sell me anything.


Every single one of the products has a higher quality and less expensive non MLM alternative. There are no MLM products that are truly original or that have anything you can't get somewhere else.

And I would never support them because the structure itself is predatory. Specifically they target women and tell them that this bussiness will make all their dreams come true etc. it's all BS and frankly kind of sad.


Oh for the love of God, you STILL cannot spell the word business??? What is wrong with you? Do you think we forgot that you ranted for pages upon pages misspelling "bussiness?"


I'm sorry what? What is your problem? I see I spelled business wrong here but what are you going on about? Sounds like you are the one who has something wrong with them.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 20:44     Subject: Serious MLM question
Anonymous wrote:There’s always a fairly large initial buy in, the price for which has been carefully researched to be just barely below what the sellers souse would notice or vigorously object to. That initial pile of goods typically sits in the basement or garage for 1.5 years until used or disposed of.

If there were better products available I and the whole world would know about it, I wouldn’t need my recently removed from the workforce mommy to a 6 month old friend to bring it to my house.


I think Lularoe has a startup fee of over 4,000 dollars.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2018 20:34     Subject: Serious MLM question
There’s always a fairly large initial buy in, the price for which has been carefully researched to be just barely below what the sellers souse would notice or vigorously object to. That initial pile of goods typically sits in the basement or garage for 1.5 years until used or disposed of.

If there were better products available I and the whole world would know about it, I wouldn’t need my recently removed from the workforce mommy to a 6 month old friend to bring it to my house.