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Sure. But I don't see how that's inconsistent with the above: "It may not be feasible to revise all boundaries, however, there are many schools in MCPS with
adjacent school boundaries that have both significant disparities in socioeconomic and racial demographics and disparities in facility utilization."

I really don't think there are that many. And for at least some of the schools with adjacent boundaries that have significant disparities, it is not the communities close to the boundary line that are materially different from the less diverse school. So you cannot "balance" out the schools by including neighborhoods that are near the boundary line. You'd have to move kids/neighborhoods that are much further away, toward the other side of the second school's boundary line, in order to change the demographics at the first school. At least that is my observation in my little area. I'm not saying there might not be tweaks that would make some improvement. But I think overall it's going to be very small improvements unless it is a pretty radical change in moving kids longer distances to go to elementary school (as some clusters in the County already do - see RH/NCC/CC).

I don't understand why more people don't embrace diversity bussing.

The people in Silver Spring don't care about diversity, they just want to offload large chunks of their poor kids dragging their schools down to the Ws because they don't think it is fair that they have so many when the nice areas have so few. Doesn't matter that they chose to live in Silver Spring and should have known what they were getting into. They act like if only they went to school with a buch of rich kids that looked down on them their lives would all change for the better. It isn't true, the main people who would benefit form busing poor kids out of area are the people in the area they are leaving. That is why Silver Spring pretends to care.

If they really cared they wouldn't fight for what ever term is currently being used for in school segregation such as enrichment, HGC, Magnet, GT or Immersion. These programs are lotteries where the W's just pay a mortgage tax to avoid those kids. Not much different than the hot lanes on 495. Not being able to afford to avoid the poor kids should tell you something.

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I don't understand why more people don't embrace diversity bussing.

Because you can't embrace something that doesn't exist.

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Anonymous wrote:

Sure. But I don't see how that's inconsistent with the above: "It may not be feasible to revise all boundaries, however, there are many schools in MCPS with
adjacent school boundaries that have both significant disparities in socioeconomic and racial demographics and disparities in facility utilization."

I really don't think there are that many. And for at least some of the schools with adjacent boundaries that have significant disparities, it is not the communities close to the boundary line that are materially different from the less diverse school. So you cannot "balance" out the schools by including neighborhoods that are near the boundary line. You'd have to move kids/neighborhoods that are much further away, toward the other side of the second school's boundary line, in order to change the demographics at the first school. At least that is my observation in my little area. I'm not saying there might not be tweaks that would make some improvement. But I think overall it's going to be very small improvements unless it is a pretty radical change in moving kids longer distances to go to elementary school (as some clusters in the County already do - see RH/NCC/CC).

I don't understand why more people don't embrace diversity bussing.

Anonymous wrote:

Sure. But I don't see how that's inconsistent with the above: "It may not be feasible to revise all boundaries, however, there are many schools in MCPS with
adjacent school boundaries that have both significant disparities in socioeconomic and racial demographics and disparities in facility utilization."

I really don't think there are that many. And for at least some of the schools with adjacent boundaries that have significant disparities, it is not the communities close to the boundary line that are materially different from the less diverse school. So you cannot "balance" out the schools by including neighborhoods that are near the boundary line. You'd have to move kids/neighborhoods that are much further away, toward the other side of the second school's boundary line, in order to change the demographics at the first school. At least that is my observation in my little area. I'm not saying there might not be tweaks that would make some improvement. But I think overall it's going to be very small improvements unless it is a pretty radical change in moving kids longer distances to go to elementary school (as some clusters in the County already do - see RH/NCC/CC).

Anonymous wrote:Given the upcoming boundary studies, why do BOEs still want to engage the study? It’s a waste of money. Who can benefit from this?

The student member proposed hiring a consultant to review the boundaries. That proposal hasn't been approved by the board. If you're opposed, let the BOE members know. https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/boe/about/contact.aspx

Anonymous wrote:If I wanted my kids to go to school with illegals and packs of poor kids I would have taken the discount and moved to the DCC. If the DCC sends their poverty I'll simply take my kids out of the neighborhood elementary school and go private which we were already planning to do for middle. We wanted our kids to get to know the neighborhood kids but if the school becomes full with kids from other places the point becomes irreverent.

You can't force millionaires to prop up the east county any more than they already do with their property taxes.

You just proved a point I posted earlier in the thread.

Anonymous wrote:If I wanted my kids to go to school with illegals and packs of poor kids I would have taken the discount and moved to the DCC. If the DCC sends their poverty I'll simply take my kids out of the neighborhood elementary school and go private which we were already planning to do for middle. We wanted our kids to get to know the neighborhood kids but if the school becomes full with kids from other places the point becomes irreverent.

You can't force millionaires to prop up the east county any more than they already do with their property taxes.

Ok, then go ahead and do that?

An irreverent point.

If I wanted my kids to go to school with illegals and packs of poor kids I would have taken the discount and moved to the DCC. If the DCC sends their poverty I'll simply take my kids out of the neighborhood elementary school and go private which we were already planning to do for middle. We wanted our kids to get to know the neighborhood kids but if the school becomes full with kids from other places the point becomes irreverent.

You can't force millionaires to prop up the east county any more than they already do with their property taxes.

Anonymous wrote:Given the upcoming boundary studies, why do BOEs still want to engage the study? It’s a waste of money. Who can benefit from this?

The great majority of schools in MCPS will not be affected by the upcoming boundary studies.

Given the upcoming boundary studies, why do BOEs still want to engage the study? It’s a waste of money. Who can benefit from this?

Anonymous wrote:Who said Northwood is going to be redistricted?

Northwood is part of the DCC, and the DCC will be part of the rezoning when Woodward re-opens.

But probably the PP just got confused about the new Northwood building.

Who said Northwood is going to be redistricted?

Anonymous wrote:Exactly, that's three high schools that will be redistricted. Northwood, that's DCC which I believe is 5 high schools. Woodward well that's WJ + D C C + B C C and maybe Whitman. Then you've got Crown, how many high schools does that involve? So how many are left that are going to be redistricted, or do all of those mentioned above get restricted twice, once in the next couple of years and a second time when the miracle report comes out after a few months of looking at mcps?

MCPS has 133 elementary schools and 40 middle schools, in addition to 25 high schools.

The CIP has the Seneca Valley paragraph for Clarksburg, Seneca Valley, and Northwest - when Seneca Valley is built, which will be August 2020.

The CIP has the Crown paragraph for Richard Montgomery, Quince Orchard, Wootton, and Gaithersburg - when Crown is built, which won't be for several years.

The CIP has the Woodward paragraph for Walter Johnson and the DCC (Blair, Einstein, Kennedy, Wheaton, Northwood) - but not for B-CC - when Woodward re-opens, which won't be for several years.

So for the high schools only, there would be only 1 boundary study before a potential report comes out, involving 3 high schools. Plus 2 more boundary studies, involving 4 and 6 high schools respectively, after a potential report comes out. So those high school boundary studies could definitely incorporate recommendations from a potential report. And then there are 12 high schools where there is no mention of boundary studies in the CIP.

Anonymous wrote:Exactly, that's three high schools that will be redistricted. Northwood, that's DCC which I believe is 5 high schools. Woodward well that's WJ + D C C + B C C and maybe Whitman. Then you've got Crown, how many high schools does that involve? So how many are left that are going to be redistricted, or do all of those mentioned above get restricted twice, once in the next couple of years and a second time when the miracle report comes out after a few months of looking at mcps?

Nobody is proposing a boundary study of all schools or even all high schools. The only boundary studies to have been announced are Northwest-Clarksburg-Seneca Valley and Forest Knolls-Montgomery Knolls/Pine Crest. Everything else is conjecture and speculation.

Exactly, that's three high schools that will be redistricted. Northwood, that's DCC which I believe is 5 high schools. Woodward well that's WJ + D C C + B C C and maybe Whitman. Then you've got Crown, how many high schools does that involve? So how many are left that are going to be redistricted, or do all of those mentioned above get restricted twice, once in the next couple of years and a second time when the miracle report comes out after a few months of looking at mcps?