Anonymous
Post 12/16/2018 10:35     Subject: Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:ED is where all colleges, including the Ivy’s, take a majority of their recruited athletes. Should not be a surprise that strong athletes are well represented at this juncture.


Or from above. I can see from DDs accepted student page that everyone who was accepted early has "something" Athletes, musicians and test kids of billionaires. I won't name the Billionaire's dd but he is one of the people who supported "the Giving Pledge."

Anonymous
Post 12/16/2018 10:31     Subject: Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
ED is where all colleges, including the Ivy’s, take a majority of their recruited athletes. Should not be a surprise that strong athletes are well represented at this juncture.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2018 10:26     Subject: Re:Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My daughter made it into Harvard yesterday. Public School, top of class, musician in a national ensemble.


sure she did


She did, i swear to god. And I'm not sure why you can't comprehend this
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 22:38     Subject: Re:Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:These schools are always several steps ahead, just when you think you figured out their formula, they flip the script. They are looking for genuine intellectual ability, rare talent and kids who are not "created" by parents and college consultants. They have their ways of figuring this out. It's less about the schools they come from, once you pass the academic bar, the rest weighs a lot more.


HYP grad here. The top schools stay a few steps ahead but you’d be surprised at how many kids without ultra-rare talents figure out the formula and make it in.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 22:03     Subject: Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This athlete thing at Ivy's and other top schools is very frustrating. I'm happy for the girl who is an athlete and got into Penn, but my DS had very similar stats (actually higher test scores) and is well rounded with strong extracurriculars in music and sports (just not a top athlete) plus is a legacy. You would think that schools care more about well rounded, bright students than whether or not you are a top athlete. Sorry, guess it's sour grapes, but Ivy's don't even give athletic scholarships, though they clearly they find a way to make it work for athletes who they want to recruit.


I'm not sure why you find this frustrating. The Ivies (not Ivy's, btw) recognize that, generally speaking, it is much more difficult and takes much more dedication/hard work to become an elite athlete than to be "well rounded." I can also guarantee you that recruited athletes at Ivies are "bright," just like your DS. I would think (as many others, I'm sure) that Ivies would rather have a student who was able to become an elite athlete while also succeeding in school than a student who may have had slightly better stats with run-of-the mill ECs. Honestly, I think this is a no brainer.


+1 Very well said, PP.


U would be surprised how many athletes at Ivies are not that bright....same w donor $$$ kids


Really depends on the sport. For the helmet sports, yes the stats are below average. For the other sports there is really not that much difference.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 21:24     Subject: Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This athlete thing at Ivy's and other top schools is very frustrating. I'm happy for the girl who is an athlete and got into Penn, but my DS had very similar stats (actually higher test scores) and is well rounded with strong extracurriculars in music and sports (just not a top athlete) plus is a legacy. You would think that schools care more about well rounded, bright students than whether or not you are a top athlete. Sorry, guess it's sour grapes, but Ivy's don't even give athletic scholarships, though they clearly they find a way to make it work for athletes who they want to recruit.


I'm not sure why you find this frustrating. The Ivies (not Ivy's, btw) recognize that, generally speaking, it is much more difficult and takes much more dedication/hard work to become an elite athlete than to be "well rounded." I can also guarantee you that recruited athletes at Ivies are "bright," just like your DS. I would think (as many others, I'm sure) that Ivies would rather have a student who was able to become an elite athlete while also succeeding in school than a student who may have had slightly better stats with run-of-the mill ECs. Honestly, I think this is a no brainer.


+1 Very well said, PP.


U would be surprised how many athletes at Ivies are not that bright....same w donor $$$ kids
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 21:17     Subject: Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This athlete thing at Ivy's and other top schools is very frustrating. I'm happy for the girl who is an athlete and got into Penn, but my DS had very similar stats (actually higher test scores) and is well rounded with strong extracurriculars in music and sports (just not a top athlete) plus is a legacy. You would think that schools care more about well rounded, bright students than whether or not you are a top athlete. Sorry, guess it's sour grapes, but Ivy's don't even give athletic scholarships, though they clearly they find a way to make it work for athletes who they want to recruit.


I'm not sure why you find this frustrating. The Ivies (not Ivy's, btw) recognize that, generally speaking, it is much more difficult and takes much more dedication/hard work to become an elite athlete than to be "well rounded." I can also guarantee you that recruited athletes at Ivies are "bright," just like your DS. I would think (as many others, I'm sure) that Ivies would rather have a student who was able to become an elite athlete while also succeeding in school than a student who may have had slightly better stats with run-of-the mill ECs. Honestly, I think this is a no brainer.


+1 Very well said, PP.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 21:03     Subject: Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:This athlete thing at Ivy's and other top schools is very frustrating. I'm happy for the girl who is an athlete and got into Penn, but my DS had very similar stats (actually higher test scores) and is well rounded with strong extracurriculars in music and sports (just not a top athlete) plus is a legacy. You would think that schools care more about well rounded, bright students than whether or not you are a top athlete. Sorry, guess it's sour grapes, but Ivy's don't even give athletic scholarships, though they clearly they find a way to make it work for athletes who they want to recruit.


I'm not sure why you find this frustrating. The Ivies (not Ivy's, btw) recognize that, generally speaking, it is much more difficult and takes much more dedication/hard work to become an elite athlete than to be "well rounded." I can also guarantee you that recruited athletes at Ivies are "bright," just like your DS. I would think (as many others, I'm sure) that Ivies would rather have a student who was able to become an elite athlete while also succeeding in school than a student who may have had slightly better stats with run-of-the mill ECs. Honestly, I think this is a no brainer.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 19:40     Subject: Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:My daughter got in at Penn! 3.96 GPA and 35 ACT


That’s fabulous! Her hard work paid off. Congratulations!!
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 19:25     Subject: Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This athlete thing at Ivy's and other top schools is very frustrating. I'm happy for the girl who is an athlete and got into Penn, but my DS had very similar stats (actually higher test scores) and is well rounded with strong extracurriculars in music and sports (just not a top athlete) plus is a legacy. You would think that schools care more about well rounded, bright students than whether or not you are a top athlete. Sorry, guess it's sour grapes, but Ivy's don't even give athletic scholarships, though they clearly they find a way to make it work for athletes who they want to recruit.


Yeah, athlete w 29 ACT at our private got recruited to Stanford and they usually only take one from our private.


That’s because they only take athletes. Have your kid pick up a stick or kick a ball or something.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 19:23     Subject: Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This athlete thing at Ivy's and other top schools is very frustrating. I'm happy for the girl who is an athlete and got into Penn, but my DS had very similar stats (actually higher test scores) and is well rounded with strong extracurriculars in music and sports (just not a top athlete) plus is a legacy. You would think that schools care more about well rounded, bright students than whether or not you are a top athlete. Sorry, guess it's sour grapes, but Ivy's don't even give athletic scholarships, though they clearly they find a way to make it work for athletes who they want to recruit.


Yeah, athlete w 29 ACT at our private got recruited to Stanford and they usually only take one from our private.


Yes, this does sound like sour grapes. You have to be extremely talented to get recruited by Stanford for pretty much any sport, and you also don't get to that level without putting in huge amounts of time. There are far more bright, well rounded kids with perfect stats than there are smart kids who have extraordinary talents, including athletic ones.


On the topic of athletes at ivies, this is the key point: "There are far more bright, well rounded kids with perfect stats than there are smart kids who have extraordinary talents, including athletic ones."

Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 19:21     Subject: Re:Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
DD in at Cornell: good local private, legacy, class president, varsity team captain, 33 ACT and 4.0 Weighted GPA.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 17:07     Subject: Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nephew got in ED to Yale. Just a plain old (brilliant awesome) Jewish Montgomery County public school kid with no legacy, althletics, connections, etc. 100% on his own merit with no help from anyone.


Sad you take such pride in claiming your nephew is more deserving than other admits! May the others admit, the unworthy ones crush him!!


Try again in English? Your post makes absolutely no sense.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 17:07     Subject: Re:Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Any luck with Ivies if dance as your child's main non-academic EC? If yes, any tips? Do you have to place top 12 in YAGP, or is it enough to be good, love it, win some a couple of regional events?

Please assume strong academics, STEM focus, and no other hooks.




Anonymous
Post 12/15/2018 16:55     Subject: Ivy League results so far? who is making it in?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My daughter got into Yale! publc high schoo, top student but no ranking. Sat 1580, two sub 800, has art and writing awards, lots of volunteer hours.


I have a kid who honestly loves community service. How did you make it look sincere? She is not doing it just for college.


That sounds like perfect subject matter for one of her essays. That's how she'll convey her love for her community service.


Yes but won't it come out across as fake.


This was my Dd, too, and she told her story in a convincing way, backed up by consistency in her ECs and volunteer efforts. Everyone dumps on service trips as too cliche—we’ll, she did 5 of them she loved them so much. And she got in to 7 of the 8 colleges she applied to. If the interest is authentic, it will come through.