The judgement in these posts is awful. No wonder children are ashamed and parents don’t share their childrens’ medical issues.
My 10 year old skips sleep overs and camps because she doesn’t want people to know she wets the bed. She is mortified by it. We have tried a lot of things to help her but nothing has help.

You all should be ashamed of yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD was potty trained successfully right at 2. She wore Goodnights until two months after her 5th birthday.

Your DD was successfully potty trained at 62 months.

What's your problem, PP?

I think the PP is trying to point out that her kid wasn't toilet trained until she was 5.2 years old. It's odd to say a kid is potty trained if they still need a diaper or pullups.

No, you and PP are just smug assholes. A lot of kids are fully potty trained while they are awake, but are very heavy sleepers and the urge to pee does not wake them up. There is a HUGE difference in these two things and it's rude and unhelpful to say that a child who wets the bed (which is a purely biological thing, by the way, all your wishing and hoping and wanting to shame strangers on the internet is not going to change that) is not potty trained.

Or maybe you're just an enabling asshole.

Is not something a kid will talk about, you might find out if they have a sleepover even that they might try to hide it.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s very uncommon to have 5-8 year olds who still wear diapers at night.

Percentage of children who wet the bed at different ages


If you can read a graph you can see that over 15% of 5 year olds and 5% of 12 year olds have issues with bedwetting.

That is not "very uncommon".

My eldest is still in overnights at 10
My middle child has been dry since 3
My youngest is in overnights and at 5

Thank-you. They do not have a big shelf of GoodNights in every grocery store because it is highly unusual to need them. You are just not aware of kids who do!

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that age of day training has relatively little to do with age of night training— but I tend to believe that method has *some* effect. My kid started waking up dry in the morning at least occasionally at 3 months old, more than half the time by 6-8 months, and always by 15 months. Hard to believe that had nothing at all to do with the fact that she wore cotton diapers and we took her to the potty every time she woke up, from close to birth. Definitely anecdote, but it kind of defies belief to think that absorbent disposable diapers have nothing to do with the increasing lateness of night training (on average).

Agreed. Somehow the average age for potty training in the prior generation was 1.5. Just about everyone was potty trained by 2. Nowadays most people don’t even try until their kid between 2 and 3. Then you add in absorbent disposable diapers and it’s no wonder we’re creating all these potty training issues that people convince themselves are biological. Funny how they weren’t biological for previous generations...

Totally agree. The longer you wait, the harder it is. Most kids can be trained by two.

Here's the thing, PP -- none of your friends/co-workers/neighbors who have a 5 year old that wears pull ups or Goodnites to bed is going to tell you about it. So you don't actually know this.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD was potty trained successfully right at 2. She wore Goodnights until two months after her 5th birthday.

Your DD was successfully potty trained at 62 months.

What's your problem, PP?

I think the PP is trying to point out that her kid wasn't toilet trained until she was 5.2 years old. It's odd to say a kid is potty trained if they still need a diaper or pullups.

No, you and PP are just smug assholes. A lot of kids are fully potty trained while they are awake, but are very heavy sleepers and the urge to pee does not wake them up. There is a HUGE difference in these two things and it's rude and unhelpful to say that a child who wets the bed (which is a purely biological thing, by the way, all your wishing and hoping and wanting to shame strangers on the internet is not going to change that) is not potty trained.

#1 I started teaching her to pee in the toilet at 18 months my by putting her on the toilet every morning when she first woke up, but got rid of the underwear (Oh Crap book) at 2.5. She hadn’t even wet her overnight diaper since 18 months. We had major power struggles over trying to pee before bed. She thought it was impossible to wet the bed. It was infuriating!

#2 My second was resistant to most things I encouraged her to do, so I waited until she turned 2.5 and then went full force again— Oh Crap style again. It was a messy, awful experience for 3 months, maybe longer. Her preschool teachers were amazing. They were so supportive and became so intuitive about getting her to the bathroom. When she turned 3, she decided she didn’t want pull ups anymore. I think we had two months of changing sheets a couple times a week. We got rid of the crib at that point and put the mattress on the floor. The theory was that she could get up and pee as needed, but she never did that by herself at night. The key was her body learning to hold pee through the whole night. We were very sleep deprived. She only recently started sleeping through the night again— until 5:30 to 6:30am.

I’m so glad to be done with day and night training— kids are 5.5 and just about 3.5 now. I agree that it is just a developmental thing for kids. I was an occasional deep sleeping bedwetter through my 6th year. I remember feeling like I didn’t want to wake anyone and stripping my own bed. My kids are actually much lighter/worse sleepers than I was. That probably helps.

Anonymous wrote:Both of my boys potty trained at 2.5-3.

One night-trained easily about two months later. The other needed pull-ups at night until he was almost 7. Then, one night, he just stopped wetting them. He went from 4-5 wet pull-ups a week to none.

The DS who took longer to night-train is also a much heavier sleeper and has always had vivid dreams & nightmares, and sleepwalks at least a few times a month. I suspect there is more of a correlation there than with the age of day training.

Hmmm thank you for sharing. I have two boys as well and my DS that still wears a pul up at five does have vivid dreams and nightmares and has sleepwalked. The other trained at night at two. Interesting to hear others' experiences.

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The DS who took longer to night-train is also a much heavier sleeper and has always had vivid dreams & nightmares, and sleepwalks at least a few times a month. I suspect there is more of a correlation there than with the age of day training.

I was just going to say this. My daughter was night-trained well before she was day potty-trained. She's a crazy light sleeper, was up constantly trying to come sleep with us at the time. I think if she had been one of those very heavy sleepers, the story would have been quite different (this is perhaps the only upside to having a child who barely sleeps!)

Both of my boys potty trained at 2.5-3.

One night-trained easily about two months later. The other needed pull-ups at night until he was almost 7. Then, one night, he just stopped wetting them. He went from 4-5 wet pull-ups a week to none.

The DS who took longer to night-train is also a much heavier sleeper and has always had vivid dreams & nightmares, and sleepwalks at least a few times a month. I suspect there is more of a correlation there than with the age of day training.

DS1 - PT 2.3. NT like 2 days later. He woke himself up multiple times a night. Refused to pee in training pants. It was horrible.
DD1 - PT 2.6. NT ... well, still sometimes accidents at age 5. There are good weeks and bad weeks.
DS2 - PT 2.7. NT 3? We'd kept him in trainers long after he was pretty much OK because we had an oversupply. Seems to have a bladder like a camel, though.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that age of day training has relatively little to do with age of night training— but I tend to believe that method has *some* effect. My kid started waking up dry in the morning at least occasionally at 3 months old, more than half the time by 6-8 months, and always by 15 months. Hard to believe that had nothing at all to do with the fact that she wore cotton diapers and we took her to the potty every time she woke up, from close to birth. Definitely anecdote, but it kind of defies belief to think that absorbent disposable diapers have nothing to do with the increasing lateness of night training (on average).

Agreed. Somehow the average age for potty training in the prior generation was 1.5. Just about everyone was potty trained by 2. Nowadays most people don’t even try until their kid between 2 and 3. Then you add in absorbent disposable diapers and it’s no wonder we’re creating all these potty training issues that people convince themselves are biological. Funny how they weren’t biological for previous generations...

Totally agree. The longer you wait, the harder it is. Most kids can be trained by two.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that age of day training has relatively little to do with age of night training— but I tend to believe that method has *some* effect. My kid started waking up dry in the morning at least occasionally at 3 months old, more than half the time by 6-8 months, and always by 15 months. Hard to believe that had nothing at all to do with the fact that she wore cotton diapers and we took her to the potty every time she woke up, from close to birth. Definitely anecdote, but it kind of defies belief to think that absorbent disposable diapers have nothing to do with the increasing lateness of night training (on average).

Agreed. Somehow the average age for potty training in the prior generation was 1.5. Just about everyone was potty trained by 2. Nowadays most people don’t even try until their kid between 2 and 3. Then you add in absorbent disposable diapers and it’s no wonder we’re creating all these potty training issues that people convince themselves are biological. Funny how they weren’t biological for previous generations...

My husband wet the bed until he was 10. There were no pullups, they just had to change the sheets a lot. It happened in previous generations too, just people didn't talk about it or have the accommodations of pullups.

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Anonymous wrote:I had no idea it was a thing for neurotypical 5 year olds to not be potty trained.

Well hopefully reading all the previous posts will enlighten you.

It has shown me there are a good number of lazy parents who just decided not to night train their kids.

I hope your children are not as miserable and insensitive as you are. Plenty of us tried, and MULTIPLE doctors have told us it is not within our control. You have no idea what some of have been through or tried to get our children to be dry at night. Trust me, none of us want our 9 year olds to be wet at night. But to you we are just "lazy." And I think you are an insensitive jerk who apparently cannot learn from or listen to anyones experiences that don't match your own.

DD1- day trained at 3, night trained around 4.5

DD2-day trained at 22 months, she’s probably able to go through the night at 4 but drinks a full 10oz cup of milk before bed (brushes teeth after) as part of her bedtime routine that I’m not interested in changing and therefore she wears a pull-up.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD was potty trained successfully right at 2. She wore Goodnights until two months after her 5th birthday.

Your DD was successfully potty trained at 62 months.

What's your problem, PP?

I think the PP is trying to point out that her kid wasn't toilet trained until she was 5.2 years old. It's odd to say a kid is potty trained if they still need a diaper or pullups.

Night and day training aren’t the same thing though.

Meh. At my house we made a big deal of getting rid of diapers when my kid was potty trained.

I wouldn’t consider a kid potty trained if you’re still buying them diapers. It’s a silly distinction but if wearing diapers counts as being potty trained, I have brilliant children who have been potty trained since birth.