Even when you compare CMI to other thru 8th schools, they are significantly behind. I think they are 20+ points lower than ITS, TR, KIPP etc. even when you compare their grade by grade performance, they are at the bottom in each grade.
cara12345 wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is something up at Creative Minds? They made tons of offers in all grades (except 3rd)
Other than that they have some of the worst scores in the city, the issues with teacher attrition, lack of leadership, the fact that they are broke and can't pay bills, bullying issues, behavior issues? Besides that? No, they still attract white hippies
I think you mean yuppies. I’m all for equity, but I want more creativity for their mind. Or a green world.
Geez, this blog LOVES to rail on CMI and its parents. I don't get why everyone on here is on a crusade to bring down CMI. My child absolutely LOVES this school.. his teacher is amazing and the facility and outdoor space is amazing. Yes I acknowledge that the scores are low... the middle school is new and most kids entering their middle school were not there for the lower grades, plus we are getting graded through 7th where most schools only go to 5th. Yes there are big issues with faculty turn over and funding, but the parent association is fundraising hard, and I can tell the school is working hard to improve this situation. Will I stay there for 3rd grade +.. totally TBD, but I'm definitely glad to be there now!
cara12345 wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is something up at Creative Minds? They made tons of offers in all grades (except 3rd)
Other than that they have some of the worst scores in the city, the issues with teacher attrition, lack of leadership, the fact that they are broke and can't pay bills, bullying issues, behavior issues? Besides that? No, they still attract white hippies
I think you mean yuppies. I’m all for equity, but I want more creativity for their mind. Or a green world.
Geez, this blog LOVES to rail on CMI and its parents. I don't get why everyone on here is on a crusade to bring down CMI. My child absolutely LOVES this school.. his teacher is amazing and the facility and outdoor space is amazing. Yes I acknowledge that the scores are low... the middle school is new and most kids entering their middle school were not there for the lower grades, plus we are getting graded through 7th where most schools only go to 5th. Yes there are big issues with faculty turn over and funding, but the parent association is fundraising hard, and I can tell the school is working hard to improve this situation. Will I stay there for 3rd grade +.. totally TBD, but I'm definitely glad to be there now!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is something up at Creative Minds? They made tons of offers in all grades (except 3rd)
Other than that they have some of the worst scores in the city, the issues with teacher attrition, lack of leadership, the fact that they are broke and can't pay bills, bullying issues, behavior issues? Besides that? No, they still attract white hippies
I think you mean yuppies. I’m all for equity, but I want more creativity for their mind. Or a green world.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:11:54 here -- I think I see it:
https://osse.dc.gov/page/2017-18-parcc-results-and-resources
Go to the link above and you can see separate spreadsheets for ELA and Math PARCC data for every school. You can look by grade or overall. Overall, Noyes had 15.2% level 4/5 on ELA. CMI had 30.2%. If you look just at grade 3, Noyes was 26.1% and CMI was 21.1%.
CMI's scores vacillate a lot -- as low as 17.1% for ELA proficiency in 6th grade to 47.2% in 4th. Could be a variety of reasons for that. Math scores look better for CMI.
TLDR: you can drill down on the data from the link earlier in this post, but I think the posted I quoted above is cherry picking ELA on one specific year, which doesn't give you a fair picture of anything.
Well the PMF scores are now out. Let's look at the growth scores (supposed to be the best indicator right?).
CMI
Overall score: 55.4%
Growth in ELA: 45.3%
Growth in Math: 40.3%
COMPARE WITH SIMILAR SCHOOL
ITS
Overall score: 74.6%
Growth in ELA: 57.3%
Growth in Math: 52.1%
COMPARE WITH A SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Meridian
Overall score: 59.4%
Growth in ELA: 60.9%
Growth in Math: 57.9%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Center City Congress Heights
Overall score: 62.7%
Growth in ELA: 50.6%
Growth in Math: 55.5%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Hope - Lamond
Overall score: 62.8%
Growth in ELA: 54.6%
Growth in Math: 49.7%
While ITS and CMI are similar in most demographic categories, there is one important exception -- CMI has 28,7 special ed students vs 16,4 for ITS. Actually, CMI's percentage of special ed students is about twice the average of the other District Schools. That being the case, it's unlikely it could ever have scores to match WOTP schools, which you said you wanted to use as your comparison but wisely didn't, or even ITS which is otherwise its closest match. That's not to say that the scores couldn't and shouldn't be better than they are, but you clearly don't comprehend that many of the CMI parents, including some of the neighbors you enjoy laughing at, have no doubt selected this school especially because of it's focus on special ed, and keep their children there for that very reason. I doubt they appreciate your very peculiar sense of humor or your arrogance in assuming you know what's better for their kids than they do.
NP.
You can't assume that students with special needs are the ones bringing down CMI's scores, so to speak. In fact, the above numbers relate to student growth, not achievement. CMI, if it has a better approach to teaching students with disabilities than anyone else, should be able to keep pace when comparing growth scores (students moving from level 1 PARCC to 2 counts as much or more as moving from 4 to 5).
If CMI is really no better at educating students with disabilities than other schools, what is their raison d'etre? And if that is their 'focus', why haven't they applied for SN lottery preference like Bridges?
You might try looking at Bridges PARCC and PMF scores. Bridges has 34.8% special ed and is a Tier 3 school.
Excuse me. I was using last year's tier ranking. I see that Bridges edged up this year to Tier 2. Good for them!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:11:54 here -- I think I see it:
https://osse.dc.gov/page/2017-18-parcc-results-and-resources
Go to the link above and you can see separate spreadsheets for ELA and Math PARCC data for every school. You can look by grade or overall. Overall, Noyes had 15.2% level 4/5 on ELA. CMI had 30.2%. If you look just at grade 3, Noyes was 26.1% and CMI was 21.1%.
CMI's scores vacillate a lot -- as low as 17.1% for ELA proficiency in 6th grade to 47.2% in 4th. Could be a variety of reasons for that. Math scores look better for CMI.
TLDR: you can drill down on the data from the link earlier in this post, but I think the posted I quoted above is cherry picking ELA on one specific year, which doesn't give you a fair picture of anything.
Well the PMF scores are now out. Let's look at the growth scores (supposed to be the best indicator right?).
CMI
Overall score: 55.4%
Growth in ELA: 45.3%
Growth in Math: 40.3%
COMPARE WITH SIMILAR SCHOOL
ITS
Overall score: 74.6%
Growth in ELA: 57.3%
Growth in Math: 52.1%
COMPARE WITH A SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Meridian
Overall score: 59.4%
Growth in ELA: 60.9%
Growth in Math: 57.9%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Center City Congress Heights
Overall score: 62.7%
Growth in ELA: 50.6%
Growth in Math: 55.5%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Hope - Lamond
Overall score: 62.8%
Growth in ELA: 54.6%
Growth in Math: 49.7%
While ITS and CMI are similar in most demographic categories, there is one important exception -- CMI has 28,7 special ed students vs 16,4 for ITS. Actually, CMI's percentage of special ed students is about twice the average of the other District Schools. That being the case, it's unlikely it could ever have scores to match WOTP schools, which you said you wanted to use as your comparison but wisely didn't, or even ITS which is otherwise its closest match. That's not to say that the scores couldn't and shouldn't be better than they are, but you clearly don't comprehend that many of the CMI parents, including some of the neighbors you enjoy laughing at, have no doubt selected this school especially because of it's focus on special ed, and keep their children there for that very reason. I doubt they appreciate your very peculiar sense of humor or your arrogance in assuming you know what's better for their kids than they do.
NP.
You can't assume that students with special needs are the ones bringing down CMI's scores, so to speak. In fact, the above numbers relate to student growth, not achievement. CMI, if it has a better approach to teaching students with disabilities than anyone else, should be able to keep pace when comparing growth scores (students moving from level 1 PARCC to 2 counts as much or more as moving from 4 to 5).
If CMI is really no better at educating students with disabilities than other schools, what is their raison d'etre? And if that is their 'focus', why haven't they applied for SN lottery preference like Bridges?
You might try looking at Bridges PARCC and PMF scores. Bridges has 34.8% special ed and is a Tier 3 school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:11:54 here -- I think I see it:
https://osse.dc.gov/page/2017-18-parcc-results-and-resources
Go to the link above and you can see separate spreadsheets for ELA and Math PARCC data for every school. You can look by grade or overall. Overall, Noyes had 15.2% level 4/5 on ELA. CMI had 30.2%. If you look just at grade 3, Noyes was 26.1% and CMI was 21.1%.
CMI's scores vacillate a lot -- as low as 17.1% for ELA proficiency in 6th grade to 47.2% in 4th. Could be a variety of reasons for that. Math scores look better for CMI.
TLDR: you can drill down on the data from the link earlier in this post, but I think the posted I quoted above is cherry picking ELA on one specific year, which doesn't give you a fair picture of anything.
Well the PMF scores are now out. Let's look at the growth scores (supposed to be the best indicator right?).
CMI
Overall score: 55.4%
Growth in ELA: 45.3%
Growth in Math: 40.3%
COMPARE WITH SIMILAR SCHOOL
ITS
Overall score: 74.6%
Growth in ELA: 57.3%
Growth in Math: 52.1%
COMPARE WITH A SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Meridian
Overall score: 59.4%
Growth in ELA: 60.9%
Growth in Math: 57.9%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Center City Congress Heights
Overall score: 62.7%
Growth in ELA: 50.6%
Growth in Math: 55.5%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Hope - Lamond
Overall score: 62.8%
Growth in ELA: 54.6%
Growth in Math: 49.7%
While ITS and CMI are similar in most demographic categories, there is one important exception -- CMI has 28,7 special ed students vs 16,4 for ITS. Actually, CMI's percentage of special ed students is about twice the average of the other District Schools. That being the case, it's unlikely it could ever have scores to match WOTP schools, which you said you wanted to use as your comparison but wisely didn't, or even ITS which is otherwise its closest match. That's not to say that the scores couldn't and shouldn't be better than they are, but you clearly don't comprehend that many of the CMI parents, including some of the neighbors you enjoy laughing at, have no doubt selected this school especially because of it's focus on special ed, and keep their children there for that very reason. I doubt they appreciate your very peculiar sense of humor or your arrogance in assuming you know what's better for their kids than they do.
NP.
You can't assume that students with special needs are the ones bringing down CMI's scores, so to speak. In fact, the above numbers relate to student growth, not achievement. CMI, if it has a better approach to teaching students with disabilities than anyone else, should be able to keep pace when comparing growth scores (students moving from level 1 PARCC to 2 counts as much or more as moving from 4 to 5).
If CMI is really no better at educating students with disabilities than other schools, what is their raison d'etre? And if that is their 'focus', why haven't they applied for SN lottery preference like Bridges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:11:54 here -- I think I see it:
https://osse.dc.gov/page/2017-18-parcc-results-and-resources
Go to the link above and you can see separate spreadsheets for ELA and Math PARCC data for every school. You can look by grade or overall. Overall, Noyes had 15.2% level 4/5 on ELA. CMI had 30.2%. If you look just at grade 3, Noyes was 26.1% and CMI was 21.1%.
CMI's scores vacillate a lot -- as low as 17.1% for ELA proficiency in 6th grade to 47.2% in 4th. Could be a variety of reasons for that. Math scores look better for CMI.
TLDR: you can drill down on the data from the link earlier in this post, but I think the posted I quoted above is cherry picking ELA on one specific year, which doesn't give you a fair picture of anything.
Well the PMF scores are now out. Let's look at the growth scores (supposed to be the best indicator right?).
CMI
Overall score: 55.4%
Growth in ELA: 45.3%
Growth in Math: 40.3%
COMPARE WITH SIMILAR SCHOOL
ITS
Overall score: 74.6%
Growth in ELA: 57.3%
Growth in Math: 52.1%
COMPARE WITH A SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Meridian
Overall score: 59.4%
Growth in ELA: 60.9%
Growth in Math: 57.9%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Center City Congress Heights
Overall score: 62.7%
Growth in ELA: 50.6%
Growth in Math: 55.5%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Hope - Lamond
Overall score: 62.8%
Growth in ELA: 54.6%
Growth in Math: 49.7%
While ITS and CMI are similar in most demographic categories, there is one important exception -- CMI has 28,7 special ed students vs 16,4 for ITS. Actually, CMI's percentage of special ed students is about twice the average of the other District Schools. That being the case, it's unlikely it could ever have scores to match WOTP schools, which you said you wanted to use as your comparison but wisely didn't, or even ITS which is otherwise its closest match. That's not to say that the scores couldn't and shouldn't be better than they are, but you clearly don't comprehend that many of the CMI parents, including some of the neighbors you enjoy laughing at, have no doubt selected this school especially because of it's focus on special ed, and keep their children there for that very reason. I doubt they appreciate your very peculiar sense of humor or your arrogance in assuming you know what's better for their kids than they do.
NP.
You can't assume that students with special needs are the ones bringing down CMI's scores, so to speak. In fact, the above numbers relate to student growth, not achievement. CMI, if it has a better approach to teaching students with disabilities than anyone else, should be able to keep pace when comparing growth scores (students moving from level 1 PARCC to 2 counts as much or more as moving from 4 to 5).
If CMI is really no better at educating students with disabilities than other schools, what is their raison d'etre? And if that is their 'focus', why haven't they applied for SN lottery preference like Bridges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:11:54 here -- I think I see it:
https://osse.dc.gov/page/2017-18-parcc-results-and-resources
Go to the link above and you can see separate spreadsheets for ELA and Math PARCC data for every school. You can look by grade or overall. Overall, Noyes had 15.2% level 4/5 on ELA. CMI had 30.2%. If you look just at grade 3, Noyes was 26.1% and CMI was 21.1%.
CMI's scores vacillate a lot -- as low as 17.1% for ELA proficiency in 6th grade to 47.2% in 4th. Could be a variety of reasons for that. Math scores look better for CMI.
TLDR: you can drill down on the data from the link earlier in this post, but I think the posted I quoted above is cherry picking ELA on one specific year, which doesn't give you a fair picture of anything.
Well the PMF scores are now out. Let's look at the growth scores (supposed to be the best indicator right?).
CMI
Overall score: 55.4%
Growth in ELA: 45.3%
Growth in Math: 40.3%
COMPARE WITH SIMILAR SCHOOL
ITS
Overall score: 74.6%
Growth in ELA: 57.3%
Growth in Math: 52.1%
COMPARE WITH A SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Meridian
Overall score: 59.4%
Growth in ELA: 60.9%
Growth in Math: 57.9%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Center City Congress Heights
Overall score: 62.7%
Growth in ELA: 50.6%
Growth in Math: 55.5%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Hope - Lamond
Overall score: 62.8%
Growth in ELA: 54.6%
Growth in Math: 49.7%
While ITS and CMI are similar in most demographic categories, there is one important exception -- CMI has 28,7 special ed students vs 16,4 for ITS. Actually, CMI's percentage of special ed students is about twice the average of the other District Schools. That being the case, it's unlikely it could ever have scores to match WOTP schools, which you said you wanted to use as your comparison but wisely didn't, or even ITS which is otherwise its closest match. That's not to say that the scores couldn't and shouldn't be better than they are, but you clearly don't comprehend that many of the CMI parents, including some of the neighbors you enjoy laughing at, have no doubt selected this school especially because of it's focus on special ed, and keep their children there for that very reason. I doubt they appreciate your very peculiar sense of humor or your arrogance in assuming you know what's better for their kids than they do.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:11:54 here -- I think I see it:
https://osse.dc.gov/page/2017-18-parcc-results-and-resources
Go to the link above and you can see separate spreadsheets for ELA and Math PARCC data for every school. You can look by grade or overall. Overall, Noyes had 15.2% level 4/5 on ELA. CMI had 30.2%. If you look just at grade 3, Noyes was 26.1% and CMI was 21.1%.
CMI's scores vacillate a lot -- as low as 17.1% for ELA proficiency in 6th grade to 47.2% in 4th. Could be a variety of reasons for that. Math scores look better for CMI.
TLDR: you can drill down on the data from the link earlier in this post, but I think the posted I quoted above is cherry picking ELA on one specific year, which doesn't give you a fair picture of anything.
Well the PMF scores are now out. Let's look at the growth scores (supposed to be the best indicator right?).
CMI
Overall score: 55.4%
Growth in ELA: 45.3%
Growth in Math: 40.3%
COMPARE WITH SIMILAR SCHOOL
ITS
Overall score: 74.6%
Growth in ELA: 57.3%
Growth in Math: 52.1%
COMPARE WITH A SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Meridian
Overall score: 59.4%
Growth in ELA: 60.9%
Growth in Math: 57.9%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Center City Congress Heights
Overall score: 62.7%
Growth in ELA: 50.6%
Growth in Math: 55.5%
COMPARE WITH ANOTHER SCHOOL DCUM DOESN'T LOOK AT
Hope - Lamond
Overall score: 62.8%
Growth in ELA: 54.6%
Growth in Math: 49.7%
Anonymous wrote:11:54 here -- I think I see it:
https://osse.dc.gov/page/2017-18-parcc-results-and-resources
Go to the link above and you can see separate spreadsheets for ELA and Math PARCC data for every school. You can look by grade or overall. Overall, Noyes had 15.2% level 4/5 on ELA. CMI had 30.2%. If you look just at grade 3, Noyes was 26.1% and CMI was 21.1%.
CMI's scores vacillate a lot -- as low as 17.1% for ELA proficiency in 6th grade to 47.2% in 4th. Could be a variety of reasons for that. Math scores look better for CMI.
TLDR: you can drill down on the data from the link earlier in this post, but I think the posted I quoted above is cherry picking ELA on one specific year, which doesn't give you a fair picture of anything.
Anonymous wrote:11:54 here -- I think I see it:
https://osse.dc.gov/page/2017-18-parcc-results-and-resources
Go to the link above and you can see separate spreadsheets for ELA and Math PARCC data for every school. You can look by grade or overall. Overall, Noyes had 15.2% level 4/5 on ELA. CMI had 30.2%. If you look just at grade 3, Noyes was 26.1% and CMI was 21.1%.
CMI's scores vacillate a lot -- as low as 17.1% for ELA proficiency in 6th grade to 47.2% in 4th. Could be a variety of reasons for that. Math scores look better for CMI.
TLDR: you can drill down on the data from the link earlier in this post, but I think the posted I quoted above is cherry picking ELA on one specific year, which doesn't give you a fair picture of anything.