Anonymous
10/18/2018 23:55
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
I don’t understand why DC residents should be paying for high school kids to take college-level courses. Wouldn’t it be more effective to introduce more technical programs at high schools to give kids the skills needed to get good jobs when they graduate? College isn’t for everyone, especially if it’s liberal arts.
-Signed by someone with a BA in liberal arts who had to get more degrees in order to land a decent job
-Signed by someone with a BA in liberal arts who had to get more degrees in order to land a decent job
Anonymous
10/18/2018 23:37
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I honestly don't know much about Coolidge aside from the graduation scandal. Not sure that's the right comparator for the Bard program but the Bard program is a model that's worked elsewhere, including in Baltimore.
This was the problem with Antwan Wilson -- DC is not Oakland or even Baltimore. Why? Because we're too small, too complicated, and too political.
Baltimore has something like twice the students of DC. It also has a "portfolio of schools" approach to coordinate public and charters. And it doesn't have to perform the roles of both a state and a local education department.
We don't have a DME or a chancellor and our mayor, who's supposed to be in charge, doesn't really know anything about education.
This sounds like the absolute wrong time to do this other than for Bowser's campaigning in Wards 7 and 8. She can claim to have kept a promise of something new for the forgotten people without having actually done it. (Sound familiar?)
Another poster said the Bard idea came from Antwan Wilson. Maybe it should have left with him, too.
Co-locating at Anacostia and giving preference to Wards 7 & 8 might result in something of value to the many bright but underserved kids EotR. They deserve it, but only if it can be done right. We shouldn't be experimenting on teens.
I hope it's well thought out. Where do we see the docs?
Anonymous
10/18/2018 20:47
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Anonymous wrote:
I honestly don't know much about Coolidge aside from the graduation scandal. Not sure that's the right comparator for the Bard program but the Bard program is a model that's worked elsewhere, including in Baltimore.
This was the problem with Antwan Wilson -- DC is not Oakland or even Baltimore. Why? Because we're too small, too complicated, and too political.
Baltimore has something like twice the students of DC. It also has a "portfolio of schools" approach to coordinate public and charters. And it doesn't have to perform the roles of both a state and a local education department.
We don't have a DME or a chancellor and our mayor, who's supposed to be in charge, doesn't really know anything about education.
This sounds like the absolute wrong time to do this other than for Bowser's campaigning in Wards 7 and 8. She can claim to have kept a promise of something new for the forgotten people without having actually done it. (Sound familiar?)
Another poster said the Bard idea came from Antwan Wilson. Maybe it should have left with him, too.
Co-locating at Anacostia and giving preference to Wards 7 & 8 might result in something of value to the many bright but underserved kids EotR. They deserve it, but only if it can be done right. We shouldn't be experimenting on teens.
Anonymous
10/18/2018 15:42
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This partnership also raises legitimate hiring questions.
Bard will hire teachers initially, who have background teaching college students.
Will they be required to be certified via OSSE?
Will they have equal pay and benefits as the rest of DCPS teachers?
Will they be in the WTU bargaining unit?
Will they be subject to IMPACT / LEAP and all the other hurdles that we put DCPS teachers through?
Basically DCPS has privatized a school.
DC has privatized a lot of public schools - they're called charters. Most don't have teachers union membership as a requirement.
Right, but starting one within DCPS brings a lot of baggage. I also remember when Rhee tried it at Coolidge.
I honestly don't know much about Coolidge aside from the graduation scandal. Not sure that's the right comparator for the Bard program but the Bard program is a model that's worked elsewhere, including in Baltimore.
Anonymous
10/18/2018 15:41
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If SWW, McKinley, and Banneker cannot fill up on kids with 5/5, where are the additional 150 for this school.going to come from?
The only middle schools with 10 or more students with 5s on PARCCC ELA are Deal, Hardy, KIPP Key, BASIS and Washington Latin. DCI had 9.
https://osse.dc.gov/node/1348731
Stuart Hobson had 44 students scoring 5 on ELA (10.8% of 409 test takers)
Anonymous
10/18/2018 12:27
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This partnership also raises legitimate hiring questions.
Bard will hire teachers initially, who have background teaching college students.
Will they be required to be certified via OSSE?
Will they have equal pay and benefits as the rest of DCPS teachers?
Will they be in the WTU bargaining unit?
Will they be subject to IMPACT / LEAP and all the other hurdles that we put DCPS teachers through?
Basically DCPS has privatized a school.
DC has privatized a lot of public schools - they're called charters. Most don't have teachers union membership as a requirement.
Right, but starting one within DCPS brings a lot of baggage. I also remember when Rhee tried it at Coolidge.
Anonymous
10/18/2018 12:08
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Anonymous wrote:This partnership also raises legitimate hiring questions.
Bard will hire teachers initially, who have background teaching college students.
Will they be required to be certified via OSSE?
Will they have equal pay and benefits as the rest of DCPS teachers?
Will they be in the WTU bargaining unit?
Will they be subject to IMPACT / LEAP and all the other hurdles that we put DCPS teachers through?
Basically DCPS has privatized a school.
DC has privatized a lot of public schools - they're called charters. Most don't have teachers union membership as a requirement.
Anonymous
10/18/2018 12:07
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Anonymous wrote:This partnership also raises legitimate hiring questions.
Bard will hire teachers initially, who have background teaching college students.
Will they be required to be certified via OSSE?
Will they have equal pay and benefits as the rest of DCPS teachers?
Will they be in the WTU bargaining unit?
Will they be subject to IMPACT / LEAP and all the other hurdles that we put DCPS teachers through?
Basically DCPS has privatized a school.
In other places where operating the Bard teachers have joined local teacher's unions.
Anonymous
10/18/2018 11:59
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Also, from the twitter threads I've seen, Anacostia is under-enrolled. Why not house this program there?
Anonymous
10/18/2018 11:51
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
This partnership also raises legitimate hiring questions.
Bard will hire teachers initially, who have background teaching college students.
Will they be required to be certified via OSSE?
Will they have equal pay and benefits as the rest of DCPS teachers?
Will they be in the WTU bargaining unit?
Will they be subject to IMPACT / LEAP and all the other hurdles that we put DCPS teachers through?
Basically DCPS has privatized a school.
Bard will hire teachers initially, who have background teaching college students.
Will they be required to be certified via OSSE?
Will they have equal pay and benefits as the rest of DCPS teachers?
Will they be in the WTU bargaining unit?
Will they be subject to IMPACT / LEAP and all the other hurdles that we put DCPS teachers through?
Basically DCPS has privatized a school.
Anonymous
10/18/2018 11:45
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who is the principal tweeting that it will be at their school?
I don't know, but the comments responding to this tweet suggest that some at Anacostia HS were out of the loop, and Kramer MS may be a potential location.
https://twitter.com/PerryStein/status/1052731882000015360
Kramer is walking distance from Cap Hill
What? No way.
From looking at the twitter linked and falling down the rabbit hole, it looks like the staff at Anacostia are doing good things this year. I would be sad if it hurt their neighborhood school where they are working so hard.
Anonymous
10/18/2018 11:39
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who is the principal tweeting that it will be at their school?
I don't know, but the comments responding to this tweet suggest that some at Anacostia HS were out of the loop, and Kramer MS may be a potential location.
https://twitter.com/PerryStein/status/1052731882000015360
Kramer is walking distance from Cap Hill
Anonymous
10/18/2018 11:37
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking at PARCC scores in wards 7 and 8 doesn't give you a full picture because many ward 7 and 8 students go across town to other highschools.
Yes that’s why I asked about residents.
And the fear I have is that students from the rest of DC, especially high performers, aren’t going to go to Ward 7 or 8 for school in pretty much any circumstance I can imagine.
If you read the WaPo story, they don't really want or expect families from other parts of the city to go there. They are doing this for students who live in Ward 7 and 8
That's no more true anymore than suggesting SWW doesn't want students from Wards 7 & 8
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/dc-partners-with-college-to-offer-associate-degree-to-high-schoolers-in-poorest-neighborhoods/2018/10/17/7adaaac6-d227-11e8-8c22-fa2ef74bd6d6_story.html?utm_term=.6defbc838b5b
D.C. partners with college to offer associates degree to high schoolers in poorest neighborhoods
"...The city hopes a liberal arts college curriculum can boost the performance of high school students living in neighborhoods with the District’s highest dropout rates and meet families’ demands for more rigorous education options in poorer areas of the city.
The Bard High School Early College would operate out of a vacant school building or an existing school in the District, though it would be a separate operation with its own principal and faculty.
The program is expected to be housed in a building east of the Anacostia River — the swath of the city with the highest concentration of impoverished children. The city said it will collect feedback from the public in coming months to determine the building it should select.
'With Bard High School Early College, we are answering the community’s call for more early college options and building new pathways to college for our young people,' Mayor Muriel E. Bowser (D) said in a news release announcing the partnership Wednesday."
try reading about the actual program and not the press release. The program intends to provide college credit. For some that could be sufficient to get an AB but that's not the intended end game.
If the program is successful and meets a need people will figure out how to get there, just as Ward 7 & 8 families now figure out how to get to schools throughout WOTR within the District
Anonymous
10/18/2018 11:30
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Anonymous wrote:Who is the principal tweeting that it will be at their school?
I don't know, but the comments responding to this tweet suggest that some at Anacostia HS were out of the loop, and Kramer MS may be a potential location.
https://twitter.com/PerryStein/status/1052731882000015360
Anonymous
10/18/2018 11:26
Subject: Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8
Who is the principal tweeting that it will be at their school?