Jealous is about as likely to win as Peppa Pig based on the polling data. However, if he did win there would be a massive shortfall in the MCPS budget.

The problem would then bounce between the BOE/MCPS and the County Council. The BOE/MCPS will expect the CC to come up with the funds to cover the shortfall by cutting other programs or raising taxes. There will likely need to be a combination of MCPS cutting its budget, the rest of county services cutting their budgets to share some with MCPS and a tax increase. This will leave everyone very angry.

MCPS already takes the lion share of the budget. It infuriated police, fire, and other county workers when during the recession when everyone's pay was frozen MCPS gave itself a raise by increasing the class sizes/teacher ratios. These groups are still mad about this a decade later. From their perspective, MCPS cries that they are helping the children and then turns around and rewards their own employees while the rest of the county employees were frozen. They are not going to be happy about giving up more. This is just one example.

Anonymous wrote:Whoever started this thread about Ike not endorsing Ben Jealous (he did endorse him) and put it under Montgomery County Schools is out to lunch.

Hogan has been no friend to MoCo schools:
Maryland school rankings by Education Week have dropped every year since Hogan took office
Hogan repeatedly tried to cut funds for public schools but was thwarted by Democratic legislature
State commission reports Maryland schools underfunded by almost $3 billion
Hogan has increased taxpayer funds going to private, rather than public schools
Hogan vetoed a bill to add two teachers and a public school parent to the State Board of Education

But the article should have been filed under general politics.
If the original poster wanted to talk, specifically, about Hogan and schools they should have done so.

In the end, the fish rots from the head.

Clearly, you can't read because this forum is specifically about how candidates for governor would affect the outcome for MoCo schools more specifically the Kirwan Commission report. Posters have also discussed the idea of giving everyone free access to community colleges, paying teachers more and free pre-k for all. Where will all this magical funding come from and how will MCPS students be impacted?

Whoever started this thread about Ike not endorsing Ben Jealous (he did endorse him) and put it under Montgomery County Schools is out to lunch.

Hogan has been no friend to MoCo schools:
Maryland school rankings by Education Week have dropped every year since Hogan took office
Hogan repeatedly tried to cut funds for public schools but was thwarted by Democratic legislature
State commission reports Maryland schools underfunded by almost $3 billion
Hogan has increased taxpayer funds going to private, rather than public schools
Hogan vetoed a bill to add two teachers and a public school parent to the State Board of Education

But the article should have been filed under general politics.
If the original poster wanted to talk, specifically, about Hogan and schools they should have done so.

In the end, the fish rots from the head.

Anonymous wrote:As far as universal Pre-K for all, you do realize that they're not going to put pre-K in mcps schools? They're going to give "okay" or "certification" whatever you want to call it, to existing preschools and new preschools in whatever location they currently exist or new location they come up with. Then somehow pay the bill for the students attending. There will be no attempt to put pre-K in existing schools, which are already overcrowded.

Hogan has done nothing but cut funds to Montgomery County Public Schools. Our legislature have done what they can to bring some of the funds back, but Hogan, our "education Governor" is not what he claims.

They already have preK in mCPS schools. Several ES have a program and some HSs offer it. They use MCPS facilities.

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I’m from MoCo and I think they should yank funds from MoCo for this stupidity! They are more corrupt than Baltimore - fix it please.

What money should who yank from Montgomery County, for what?

Maybe they mean the Curriculum 2.0 stuff from MCPS. They decided to pay millions to create their own materials instead of just using existing materials like every other school system. Then, they paid a vendor to write the materials, and the vendor gets to keep those materials MCPS paid for and re-sell them at will. A bunch of 2.0 MCPS staff ended up going to work for the vendor for nice pay raises.

Here's a sort of summary of that mess:
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-pauses-search-for-new-curriculum-after-learning-staff-members-are-taking-jobs-with-vendor/

Everybody knows about Curriculum 2.0, PP. MCPS paid for it. Again, who's going to yank which money from Montgomery County, for what?

Yes, everyone knows about the Curriculum 2.0 mess but someone else upthread was trying to blame Hogan for the dysfunction in MCPS. Which is just crazy because MCPS was 100% responsible for the Curriculum fiasco.

Maybe MCPS will end up like Philly, where the state takes over and improves the school district due to all the terrible mismanagement. Philly has gotten so much better with the addition of charter schools and more options for the kids.

The state is going to take over the strongest district in the state and a district that performs far better than the vast majority of districts nationwide?

MCPS has plenty of issues and maybe it has coaster based on demographics to a degree, something that is more difficult as demographics change, but some of the MCPS hatred here is just crazy.

Strongest district in the state? Did you see the recent article about state PARCC scores? MCPS was NOT at the top.

I would not want charter schools in MoCo because it’s sure to become the circus disaster that is DCPS with the lottery. DC promised that the lottery was randomly based and everyone would have a “fair & equitable” shot with regards to numbers. Well look how that turned out: Kaya Henderson and other important political folk were getting approval to get their children into the best schools and then their chancellor Antuan Wilson had his daughter transferred to the city’s highly sought after school though he wrote the law that punished himself. A circus if you ask me. To the previous poster that mentioned wanting hater schools, you are more than welcome to move to DC and you’ll have plenty of “choice”.

Anonymous wrote:As far as universal Pre-K for all, you do realize that they're not going to put pre-K in mcps schools? They're going to give "okay" or "certification" whatever you want to call it, to existing preschools and new preschools in whatever location they currently exist or new location they come up with. Then somehow pay the bill for the students attending. There will be no attempt to put pre-K in existing schools, which are already overcrowded.

Hogan has done nothing but cut funds to Montgomery County Public Schools. Our legislature have done what they can to bring some of the funds back, but Hogan, our "education Governor" is not what he claims.

Pre-K already is in MCPS schools.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/dtecps/earlychildhood/prek/

As far as universal Pre-K for all, you do realize that they're not going to put pre-K in mcps schools? They're going to give "okay" or "certification" whatever you want to call it, to existing preschools and new preschools in whatever location they currently exist or new location they come up with. Then somehow pay the bill for the students attending. There will be no attempt to put pre-K in existing schools, which are already overcrowded.

Hogan has done nothing but cut funds to Montgomery County Public Schools. Our legislature have done what they can to bring some of the funds back, but Hogan, our "education Governor" is not what he claims.

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I’m from MoCo and I think they should yank funds from MoCo for this stupidity! They are more corrupt than Baltimore - fix it please.

What money should who yank from Montgomery County, for what?

Maybe they mean the Curriculum 2.0 stuff from MCPS. They decided to pay millions to create their own materials instead of just using existing materials like every other school system. Then, they paid a vendor to write the materials, and the vendor gets to keep those materials MCPS paid for and re-sell them at will. A bunch of 2.0 MCPS staff ended up going to work for the vendor for nice pay raises.

Here's a sort of summary of that mess:
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-pauses-search-for-new-curriculum-after-learning-staff-members-are-taking-jobs-with-vendor/

Everybody knows about Curriculum 2.0, PP. MCPS paid for it. Again, who's going to yank which money from Montgomery County, for what?

Yes, everyone knows about the Curriculum 2.0 mess but someone else upthread was trying to blame Hogan for the dysfunction in MCPS. Which is just crazy because MCPS was 100% responsible for the Curriculum fiasco.

Maybe MCPS will end up like Philly, where the state takes over and improves the school district due to all the terrible mismanagement. Philly has gotten so much better with the addition of charter schools and more options for the kids.

The state is going to take over the strongest district in the state and a district that performs far better than the vast majority of districts nationwide?

MCPS has plenty of issues and maybe it has coaster based on demographics to a degree, something that is more difficult as demographics change, but some of the MCPS hatred here is just crazy.

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Yes, everyone knows about the Curriculum 2.0 mess but someone else upthread was trying to blame Hogan for the dysfunction in MCPS. Which is just crazy because MCPS was 100% responsible for the Curriculum fiasco.

Maybe MCPS will end up like Philly, where the state takes over and improves the school district due to all the terrible mismanagement. Philly has gotten so much better with the addition of charter schools and more options for the kids.

Nobody did that, as far as I can tell.

And comparing MCPS to Philadelphia - good grief.

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I’m from MoCo and I think they should yank funds from MoCo for this stupidity! They are more corrupt than Baltimore - fix it please.

What money should who yank from Montgomery County, for what?

Maybe they mean the Curriculum 2.0 stuff from MCPS. They decided to pay millions to create their own materials instead of just using existing materials like every other school system. Then, they paid a vendor to write the materials, and the vendor gets to keep those materials MCPS paid for and re-sell them at will. A bunch of 2.0 MCPS staff ended up going to work for the vendor for nice pay raises.

Here's a sort of summary of that mess:
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-pauses-search-for-new-curriculum-after-learning-staff-members-are-taking-jobs-with-vendor/

Everybody knows about Curriculum 2.0, PP. MCPS paid for it. Again, who's going to yank which money from Montgomery County, for what?

Yes, everyone knows about the Curriculum 2.0 mess but someone else upthread was trying to blame Hogan for the dysfunction in MCPS. Which is just crazy because MCPS was 100% responsible for the Curriculum fiasco.

Maybe MCPS will end up like Philly, where the state takes over and improves the school district due to all the terrible mismanagement. Philly has gotten so much better with the addition of charter schools and more options for the kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m from MoCo and I think they should yank funds from MoCo for this stupidity! They are more corrupt than Baltimore - fix it please.

What money should who yank from Montgomery County, for what?

Maybe they mean the Curriculum 2.0 stuff from MCPS. They decided to pay millions to create their own materials instead of just using existing materials like every other school system. Then, they paid a vendor to write the materials, and the vendor gets to keep those materials MCPS paid for and re-sell them at will. A bunch of 2.0 MCPS staff ended up going to work for the vendor for nice pay raises.

Here's a sort of summary of that mess:
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-pauses-search-for-new-curriculum-after-learning-staff-members-are-taking-jobs-with-vendor/

Everybody knows about Curriculum 2.0, PP. MCPS paid for it. Again, who's going to yank which money from Montgomery County, for what?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m from MoCo and I think they should yank funds from MoCo for this stupidity! They are more corrupt than Baltimore - fix it please.

What money should who yank from Montgomery County, for what?

Maybe they mean the Curriculum 2.0 stuff from MCPS. They decided to pay millions to create their own materials instead of just using existing materials like every other school system. Then, they paid a vendor to write the materials, and the vendor gets to keep those materials MCPS paid for and re-sell them at will. A bunch of 2.0 MCPS staff ended up going to work for the vendor for nice pay raises.

Here's a sort of summary of that mess:
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-pauses-search-for-new-curriculum-after-learning-staff-members-are-taking-jobs-with-vendor/

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Exactly.

Hogan didn't choose and implement crappy Curriculum 2.0 with error ridden worksheets and inadequate teacher training. That was MCPS and Erik Lang all the way.

MCPS is responsible for using funds for Chromebooks and Promethean boards all throughout the system instead of using the money for additional staff. MCPS is responsible for the horrendous number of sexual abuse cases over the past 5 years.

And, I place some blame on the County Council for supporting the over-development of Montgomery County, without planning for the increase in school facilities.

The money used for Chromebooks and Promethean boards couldn't be used for staff.

Okay. So that makes it okay?

That means it's silly to say that it should have been used for staff.

It was also silly for them to push Chromebooks into every classroom, without even having a plan in place to teach the kids typing. It was silly to push Chromebooks onto kids in grades K-2, instead of actually focusing on more 'hands on' learning. Some kids in K can barely hold a pencil or a crayon correctly, yet they're wasting time 'building cupcakes' on their Chromebooks. It was stupid to push Chromebooks into classrooms, but not supply headphones. We're at a Focus school, and about half of my DC's class doesn't have headphones. Yes, the teacher keeps some extra and some parents send in extra, but either they should have been provided, or they just should skip them for K. It was silly for MCPS to push the Chromebooks when they take FOREVER to load up, because K kids log out all the time, even when they're not supposed to.

So much wasted class time, and wasted energy on those damn Chromebooks. So much wasted money.

Sorry, but I don't blame Hogan for that nonsense.

+1. I hate the Chromebooks. If they don’t get rid of them by the time my youngest enters kindergarten we may have to see about going elsewhere, which would be a PITA.

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Exactly.

Hogan didn't choose and implement crappy Curriculum 2.0 with error ridden worksheets and inadequate teacher training. That was MCPS and Erik Lang all the way.

MCPS is responsible for using funds for Chromebooks and Promethean boards all throughout the system instead of using the money for additional staff. MCPS is responsible for the horrendous number of sexual abuse cases over the past 5 years.

And, I place some blame on the County Council for supporting the over-development of Montgomery County, without planning for the increase in school facilities.

The money used for Chromebooks and Promethean boards couldn't be used for staff.

Okay. So that makes it okay?

That means it's silly to say that it should have been used for staff.

It was also silly for them to push Chromebooks into every classroom, without even having a plan in place to teach the kids typing. It was silly to push Chromebooks onto kids in grades K-2, instead of actually focusing on more 'hands on' learning. Some kids in K can barely hold a pencil or a crayon correctly, yet they're wasting time 'building cupcakes' on their Chromebooks. It was stupid to push Chromebooks into classrooms, but not supply headphones. We're at a Focus school, and about half of my DC's class doesn't have headphones. Yes, the teacher keeps some extra and some parents send in extra, but either they should have been provided, or they just should skip them for K. It was silly for MCPS to push the Chromebooks when they take FOREVER to load up, because K kids log out all the time, even when they're not supposed to.

So much wasted class time, and wasted energy on those damn Chromebooks. So much wasted money.

Sorry, but I don't blame Hogan for that nonsense.