Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 19:14     Subject: FCV DA thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah no way they should claim her as a commit. First she is not at FCV this year. Second, she left as a Miami commit.

TooDrawerSoccer, Princeton and the rest of the soccer community recognizes her as a McLean player.

The only reason for a club to do this is to mislead parents in the chase for your money.


Don't disagree but there is also nothing wrong with a shout out to the kid as long as it is actually mentioned as such. But if the kid played 3 years at FCV and just one at McLean, c'mon, what did McLean really do in that year? She was already committed meaning she was deep into the process before she even moved to McLean.

Perhaps she wanted to play high school and still wanted to be on a good club team and while at McLean an opportunity for her dream school came through and she changed her mind on Miami. Exactly what was it that McLean accomplished for a girl who was already committed to a D1 school by the time she moved to their club?


That’s not how they presented it. Just listed her right along with their current players. Even confused the FCV parents. LOL
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 19:10     Subject: FCV DA thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey FCV - update your website of commits. You don’t have a commit to Princeton! That player left your club for ECNL long before she got an offer and committed to the school.

So misleading and shady.


Someone should fact-check the rest of the stuff on their website. If a club is going to lie on its website about its college commitments, then it makes one question whether anything else on the club's website is true and accurate.


It would even be fine if they listed players who had played for them for a significant portion of time. Who knows why a kid leaves but it isn't always because of negative reasons for the club. Sometimes situations just change either soccer or life. So if a kid who played for your club for 2-3 years, leaves and commits somewhere there is nothing wrong about saying congrats to the kid in someway. It probably should say something like "Congrats to former FCV player _____ for her Princeton commitment."

On the flip side, it is always difficult to claim ownership to a players development when they change clubs.


Fair point, but in this instance the player left FCV as a Miami commit, and became a Princeton commit at a different ECNL club.


So what? Soccer wise Miami is harder to make than Princeton. Academic wise, Princeton is obviously harder to make than Miami. I guarantee you, being accepted to Princeton had nothing to do with the club she was playing with at the time. Having Miami interested in her soccer makes Princeton soccer look like NCSL by comparison. Her academic record is what got her into Princeton at that point.

And a kid changing ones mind over attending one school over another is not all that shocking. But do not conflate changing clubs with changing college choices. They are not related at all.


Wrong. Princeton is ranked #24. Miami is #159. Princeton is a way better program and harder to make.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 19:07     Subject: FCV DA thread

Anonymous wrote:Yeah no way they should claim her as a commit. First she is not at FCV this year. Second, she left as a Miami commit.

TooDrawerSoccer, Princeton and the rest of the soccer community recognizes her as a McLean player.

The only reason for a club to do this is to mislead parents in the chase for your money.


Don't disagree but there is also nothing wrong with a shout out to the kid as long as it is actually mentioned as such. But if the kid played 3 years at FCV and just one at McLean, c'mon, what did McLean really do in that year? She was already committed meaning she was deep into the process before she even moved to McLean.

Perhaps she wanted to play high school and still wanted to be on a good club team and while at McLean an opportunity for her dream school came through and she changed her mind on Miami. Exactly what was it that McLean accomplished for a girl who was already committed to a D1 school by the time she moved to their club?
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 19:06     Subject: FCV DA thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey FCV - update your website of commits. You don’t have a commit to Princeton! That player left your club for ECNL long before she got an offer and committed to the school.

So misleading and shady.


Someone should fact-check the rest of the stuff on their website. If a club is going to lie on its website about its college commitments, then it makes one question whether anything else on the club's website is true and accurate.


It would even be fine if they listed players who had played for them for a significant portion of time. Who knows why a kid leaves but it isn't always because of negative reasons for the club. Sometimes situations just change either soccer or life. So if a kid who played for your club for 2-3 years, leaves and commits somewhere there is nothing wrong about saying congrats to the kid in someway. It probably should say something like "Congrats to former FCV player _____ for her Princeton commitment."

On the flip side, it is always difficult to claim ownership to a players development when they change clubs.


Fair point, but in this instance the player left FCV as a Miami commit, and became a Princeton commit at a different ECNL club.


So what? Soccer wise Miami is harder to make than Princeton. Academic wise, Princeton is obviously harder to make than Miami. I guarantee you, being accepted to Princeton had nothing to do with the club she was playing with at the time. Having Miami interested in her soccer makes Princeton soccer look like NCSL by comparison. Her academic record is what got her into Princeton at that point.

And a kid changing ones mind over attending one school over another is not all that shocking. But do not conflate changing clubs with changing college choices. They are not related at all.


Why would FCV lie and claim they have a Princeton commit? Are they that desperate?
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 19:02     Subject: FCV DA thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey FCV - update your website of commits. You don’t have a commit to Princeton! That player left your club for ECNL long before she got an offer and committed to the school.

So misleading and shady.


Someone should fact-check the rest of the stuff on their website. If a club is going to lie on its website about its college commitments, then it makes one question whether anything else on the club's website is true and accurate.


It would even be fine if they listed players who had played for them for a significant portion of time. Who knows why a kid leaves but it isn't always because of negative reasons for the club. Sometimes situations just change either soccer or life. So if a kid who played for your club for 2-3 years, leaves and commits somewhere there is nothing wrong about saying congrats to the kid in someway. It probably should say something like "Congrats to former FCV player _____ for her Princeton commitment."

On the flip side, it is always difficult to claim ownership to a players development when they change clubs.


Fair point, but in this instance the player left FCV as a Miami commit, and became a Princeton commit at a different ECNL club.


So what? Soccer wise Miami is harder to make than Princeton. Academic wise, Princeton is obviously harder to make than Miami. I guarantee you, being accepted to Princeton had nothing to do with the club she was playing with at the time. Having Miami interested in her soccer makes Princeton soccer look like NCSL by comparison. Her academic record is what got her into Princeton at that point.

And a kid changing ones mind over attending one school over another is not all that shocking. But do not conflate changing clubs with changing college choices. They are not related at all.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 19:02     Subject: FCV DA thread

Yeah no way they should claim her as a commit. First she is not at FCV this year. Second, she left as a Miami commit.

TooDrawerSoccer, Princeton and the rest of the soccer community recognizes her as a McLean player.

The only reason for a club to do this is to mislead parents in the chase for your money.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 18:46     Subject: FCV DA thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey FCV - update your website of commits. You don’t have a commit to Princeton! That player left your club for ECNL long before she got an offer and committed to the school.

So misleading and shady.


Someone should fact-check the rest of the stuff on their website. If a club is going to lie on its website about its college commitments, then it makes one question whether anything else on the club's website is true and accurate.


It would even be fine if they listed players who had played for them for a significant portion of time. Who knows why a kid leaves but it isn't always because of negative reasons for the club. Sometimes situations just change either soccer or life. So if a kid who played for your club for 2-3 years, leaves and commits somewhere there is nothing wrong about saying congrats to the kid in someway. It probably should say something like "Congrats to former FCV player _____ for her Princeton commitment."

On the flip side, it is always difficult to claim ownership to a players development when they change clubs.


Fair point, but in this instance the player left FCV as a Miami commit, and became a Princeton commit at a different ECNL club.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 18:45     Subject: FCV DA thread

Their homepage shows "FCV Signing Day" and there is NO mention of Princeton anywhere there. So who's shady??
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 18:39     Subject: FCV DA thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey FCV - update your website of commits. You don’t have a commit to Princeton! That player left your club for ECNL long before she got an offer and committed to the school.

So misleading and shady.


Someone should fact-check the rest of the stuff on their website. If a club is going to lie on its website about its college commitments, then it makes one question whether anything else on the club's website is true and accurate.


Meh..if a player even passes through the building at age 9, there they take credit for her success.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 18:38     Subject: FCV DA thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey FCV - update your website of commits. You don’t have a commit to Princeton! That player left your club for ECNL long before she got an offer and committed to the school.

So misleading and shady.


Someone should fact-check the rest of the stuff on their website. If a club is going to lie on its website about its college commitments, then it makes one question whether anything else on the club's website is true and accurate.


It would even be fine if they listed players who had played for them for a significant portion of time. Who knows why a kid leaves but it isn't always because of negative reasons for the club. Sometimes situations just change either soccer or life. So if a kid who played for your club for 2-3 years, leaves and commits somewhere there is nothing wrong about saying congrats to the kid in someway. It probably should say something like "Congrats to former FCV player _____ for her Princeton commitment."

On the flip side, it is always difficult to claim ownership to a players development when they change clubs.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 18:25     Subject: FCV DA thread

Anonymous wrote:Hey FCV - update your website of commits. You don’t have a commit to Princeton! That player left your club for ECNL long before she got an offer and committed to the school.

So misleading and shady.


Someone should fact-check the rest of the stuff on their website. If a club is going to lie on its website about its college commitments, then it makes one question whether anything else on the club's website is true and accurate.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 18:12     Subject: FCV DA thread

Hey FCV - update your website of commits. You don’t have a commit to Princeton! That player left your club for ECNL long before she got an offer and committed to the school.

So misleading and shady.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 15:53     Subject: FCV DA thread

Hey they could just merge the teams and cut half the players.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2018 13:00     Subject: FCV DA thread

Most of these girls whether from ECNL or DA will play at college level and that is about it. Playing for USWNT would be nice, but won't be the case for most. So you can't go wrong playing for either.

Anonymous
Post 10/09/2018 21:10     Subject: FCV DA thread

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The situation between FCV and Loudoun with the 07s is not some mystery - not to them. The players and parents know each other well and are friendly. They have played futsal and super Y together as teammates together. They train together in the off season. So some of this is ribbing each other. Two of the Loudoun 06s came from FCV a few years ago. It’s a friendly but serious rivalry. It is true that Loudoun has beaten FCV 22-1 over three games but the last game was 2-1 so FCV has caught up some. Who knows maybe these girls will play together in the future. They would make one hell of a team together. Nobody would argue that.


That's great insight. Thank you for sharing that. So much on this forum gets blown out of proportion by people overreacting to something they see and then they respond agressively. It turns into a terrible back and forth and just escalates into a truly nasty exchange.
Thank you again for that. So this is a friendly "poke" back and forth. Friendly serious competition can be healthy. Isn't that part of the true spirit of competitive sports after all? It's not always something ugly and vicious.


Yes. And I meant to say two 07s came from FCV not 06s. It’s friendly but very competitive. I guarantee us 07s parents are laughing out loud at every poke back and forth. But don’t assume that means either side will flock to the other next year. Parents are going to do what they think is best for their DD. Let’s be honest, we can’t go wrong either way.


That's one of the best statements I've heard, hands down on this forum. Most of the DAs and ECNLs are quality programs. They have great coaching and players.

Sometimes it's about what's right for one's own child and family. For example, I know a family that it's just easier for them to have both their boys and girls play in the same club for the same league. Not right for everyone, but right for some.