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Anonymous wrote:I am the parent of a trans teen and have posted on these boards before. Won’t even address most of what has been said. I will say that the idea that this is somehow profit driven is crazy. The hormones are generic and cheap so no profit there. Health insurance won’t pay for surgery until after age 18 and there are not many surgeons in the us doing it. Not sure who you think is getting rich and how they would be causing what you say is a widespread trend. My experience is that being a trans teen is rare and that those who come out as teens are very definite about it.

Being non-binary and gender fluid is not rare, and these people consider themselves to be transgender.

Which is really strange. It's a shame that people think unless they are a perfect stereotype of how our culture viewed sex roles in the 50's, that they're performing their gender wrong. Men can wear dresses and like to sew. Women can wear pants and like to weld. I don't understand why this generation is bringing back all that old, out-dated nonsense, when for years we've known that there's nothing wrong with feminine or masculine men, and neither is there anything wrong with feminine or masculine women.

No one is a perfect stereotype.

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Being non-binary and gender fluid is not rare, and these people consider themselves to be transgender.

Yes, it is rare. The LGBT community is only about 4.5% of the population, according to Gallup (2017). Only about 0.6% of the population are transgender. That is a very small percentage of the population.

But in certain communities, the rate is significantly higher. Some of that is probably people feeling more comfortable coming out, but there is probably also an element of some people latching on to a trend in search for an identity.

Being non-binary and gender fluid is not rare, and these people consider themselves to be transgender.

Yes, it is rare. The LGBT community is only about 4.5% of the population, according to Gallup (2017). Only about 0.6% of the population are transgender. That is a very small percentage of the population.

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Anonymous wrote:The only hard issue in trans gender ethics is whether/how pre-adolescent children transition. Other than that MYOB.

That is one hard issue, yes.
Another hard issue is how to handle participation in sex-segregated athletics.
Another hard issue is how to handle sex-segregated scholarships or awards.
Another hard issue is how to handle admission to sex-segregated shelters or spaces for victims of domestic violence or sexual assault.

I don't think any of those other things are difficult - they're just fringe cases held up to attract attention.

Anonymous wrote:I am the parent of a trans teen and have posted on these boards before. Won’t even address most of what has been said. I will say that the idea that this is somehow profit driven is crazy. The hormones are generic and cheap so no profit there. Health insurance won’t pay for surgery until after age 18 and there are not many surgeons in the us doing it. Not sure who you think is getting rich and how they would be causing what you say is a widespread trend. My experience is that being a trans teen is rare and that those who come out as teens are very definite about it.

Being non-binary and gender fluid is not rare, and these people consider themselves to be transgender.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is something that does not add up about that freshman with the transgender roommate.

If the roommate now identifies as a male, wouldn't they give him a male roommate? No school that I know of gives freshmen roommates of the opposite sex. That would not be respectful of either student.

Sounds fishy to me. What school are they claiming that happened at?

Crickets.

They are not the opposite sex. They are the same sex, female. They are claiming to be the opposite gender.

Pp here. This is correct. Roommate was born a biological female and has a female legal name, so it’s not strange to be assigned to a female roommate. I am not going to name the specific college because it’s small, but it’s a northeastern LAC.

Anonymous wrote:I am the parent of a trans teen and have posted on these boards before. Won’t even address most of what has been said. I will say that the idea that this is somehow profit driven is crazy. The hormones are generic and cheap so no profit there. Health insurance won’t pay for surgery until after age 18 and there are not many surgeons in the us doing it. Not sure who you think is getting rich and how they would be causing what you say is a widespread trend. My experience is that being a trans teen is rare and that those who come out as teens are very definite about it.

I am also the parent of a teen who thinks she is trans and you are absolutely wrong. And there was a time when I supported my daughter in her transition. But then I did a little research and I realized what a scandal this is. She is not transgender after all. She is confused and went to a school where this was very popular.

You are absolutely wrong about the money. This is absolutely profit-driven, as are many things in medicine. Testosterone is a multi-billion dollar business. Google the scandal about how men are made to think they need testosterone for normal aging issues. There have been thousands of lawsuits because this caused stroke, heart attacks and death. This have been - and still is - a big money maker. They are giving T to girls for pretty much their whole lives! Google Lupron. https://www.hormonesmatter.com/lupron-money-trail/

This the puberty blocker prescribed to children. Two years of treatment is about $40,000.

In about ten years time, we went from no pediatric gender clinics to almost 50. This is big business. The waiting lists are very long.

Surgeries are also very lucrative.

I would also question whether your kid is really trans. Don't you think it strange that this is an epidemic now? Have you heard of what's happening in the UK. They are calling for an investigation because there's been a 4000% increase in girls going to gender clinics in the past eight years! This number alone should make every parent of a kid who thinks they are transgender start to question this.

We don't see a 4000% increase in middle-aged women thinking they are men. This is an identity crisis. It's like eating disorder in the 1980s. A socially contagious idea. Except now, we have "experts" telling parents they need to support their kids' transition and give them hormones or puberty blockers or they will commit suicide.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is something that does not add up about that freshman with the transgender roommate.

If the roommate now identifies as a male, wouldn't they give him a male roommate? No school that I know of gives freshmen roommates of the opposite sex. That would not be respectful of either student.

Sounds fishy to me. What school are they claiming that happened at?

Crickets.

They are not the opposite sex. They are the same sex, female. They are claiming to be the opposite gender.

Anonymous wrote:There is something that does not add up about that freshman with the transgender roommate.

If the roommate now identifies as a male, wouldn't they give him a male roommate? No school that I know of gives freshmen roommates of the opposite sex. That would not be respectful of either student.

Sounds fishy to me. What school are they claiming that happened at?

Crickets.

My father had a coworker transition over the winter holidays in the early 90s. I had trans friends in high school in the early 00s—-in Herndon, which isn’t exactly know as a queer Mecca. Just as in the late 90s it became safer for gay&lesbian people to be open and more people came out when they were younger causing people to claim it’s “trendy”, it’s happening again with trans folks. When you grow up not knowing any trans people or even hearing the word, of course it’s going to take you longer to come out. Trans people have existed as long as people have been alive—-there’s lots of historical precedent.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here. My dd is a freshman and her roommate is transgender (born female, now a male). While my dd has zero issue with someone being transgender, it has been an adjustment and not at all what she expected for a roommate situation. She won’t request a change for fear of seeming discriminatory, but she’s not fully comfortable living with a guy. I feel that colleges still have work to do in this area in making sure that everyone feels comfortable with their living situation.

I feel sorry for your daughter. She should not have been put in this situation. I understand she doesn’t want to appear discriminatory, but if it were me, I would request a change. Not because it is a “guy,” but because I would worry about the mental stability of this person. Seems to me that a person who cannot make up their mind what they “are” has issues.

Where’s it said that the roommate couldn’t make up his mind? Sounds like he was assigned female at birth without consulting him and is finally free to be himself.

Unless he's intersex, he wasn't "assigned" anything.
I wasn't "assigned human at birth." I am human.

Anonymous wrote:The only hard issue in trans gender ethics is whether/how pre-adolescent children transition. Other than that MYOB.

That is one hard issue, yes.
Another hard issue is how to handle participation in sex-segregated athletics.
Another hard issue is how to handle sex-segregated scholarships or awards.
Another hard issue is how to handle admission to sex-segregated shelters or spaces for victims of domestic violence or sexual assault.

Anonymous wrote:Being transgender isn’t a trend.

Recognizing that trans people deserve the same respect afforded to others might be new to you, but it’s natural to most of us.

Why the refusal to accept that it could be "trendy" to announce one is transgender (or otherwise "different") in some areas? One kid cutting can spawn others. Eating disorders, suicide, these things can be "contagious." When I was in HS it was trendy to be anorexic at my school. My kid got her group of friends very interested in old-school punk. It's part of being a teenager to be aware of what your peers are doing and be influenced by it, and experiment with it.

Do you think "lesbian until graduation" isn't on some level trendy, peer-influenced behavior? (Just like setting one's sights on a good-earner and get married can be.)

I am the parent of a trans teen and have posted on these boards before. Won’t even address most of what has been said. I will say that the idea that this is somehow profit driven is crazy. The hormones are generic and cheap so no profit there. Health insurance won’t pay for surgery until after age 18 and there are not many surgeons in the us doing it. Not sure who you think is getting rich and how they would be causing what you say is a widespread trend. My experience is that being a trans teen is rare and that those who come out as teens are very definite about it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's definitely a trend. It's being promoted heavily by the powerful gay lobby, which lost its major fundraising hook when the Supreme Court approved gay marriage.

There is little scientific evidence to support the idea that humans can change genders but whatever....

Lol. The powerful gay lobby...

Yeah the powerful gay lobby who was actually able to get the DNC to include the term "non-binary" in its party's platform. A term that would have been considered science fiction ten years ago.

Oh, you mean the powerful group of regular decent people who think it is a good thing to be considerate of all people in this country and thus spend time and energy advocating for others' rights. That lobby.