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Anonymous wrote:Naomi Osaka had to cry and apologize to the audience - for winning. She "knew" she was not supposed to win this match, not this day, not in this state, and not in this country. Name a single country in this world where a champion felt she had to apologize for winning. If you live in a glass house, quit throwing rocks at others.

I think she felt awkward about it because the chair umpire had awarded her a point and a game. So she won without the two of them actually playing part of the match. That is very unusual for a final in a high level tournament like the US Open, so I imagine it did feel weird. So, not apologizing for winning, but feeling awkward about how the win happened.

We know exactly what Osaka said: " “I wasn’t really sure if they were booing at me” — but that she understood how they felt. “I also could sympathize because I’ve been a fan of Serena my whole life and I knew how badly the crowd wanted her to win,” Osaka told Today. “I was just emotional.”

Osaka went on to say that she felt “really happy” when Williams publicly stood up for her. The athlete also said that she felt as though she needed to apologize to the crowd when accepting her trophy. “I just felt like everyone was sort of unhappy up there. I know that the ending wasn’t how people wanted it to be,” she said."

https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/naomi-osaka-serena-williams-us-open-interview.html

That was a day later. At the moment, it was a very awkward situation all around.

Are you so dense and arrogant as to say you know better than Osaka herself what she was thinking?

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Anonymous wrote:Naomi Osaka had to cry and apologize to the audience - for winning. She "knew" she was not supposed to win this match, not this day, not in this state, and not in this country. Name a single country in this world where a champion felt she had to apologize for winning. If you live in a glass house, quit throwing rocks at others.

I think she felt awkward about it because the chair umpire had awarded her a point and a game. So she won without the two of them actually playing part of the match. That is very unusual for a final in a high level tournament like the US Open, so I imagine it did feel weird. So, not apologizing for winning, but feeling awkward about how the win happened.

We know exactly what Osaka said: " “I wasn’t really sure if they were booing at me” — but that she understood how they felt. “I also could sympathize because I’ve been a fan of Serena my whole life and I knew how badly the crowd wanted her to win,” Osaka told Today. “I was just emotional.”

Osaka went on to say that she felt “really happy” when Williams publicly stood up for her. The athlete also said that she felt as though she needed to apologize to the crowd when accepting her trophy. “I just felt like everyone was sort of unhappy up there. I know that the ending wasn’t how people wanted it to be,” she said."

https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/naomi-osaka-serena-williams-us-open-interview.html

That was a day later. At the moment, it was a very awkward situation all around.

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Anonymous wrote:Naomi Osaka had to cry and apologize to the audience - for winning. She "knew" she was not supposed to win this match, not this day, not in this state, and not in this country. Name a single country in this world where a champion felt she had to apologize for winning. If you live in a glass house, quit throwing rocks at others.

I think she felt awkward about it because the chair umpire had awarded her a point and a game. So she won without the two of them actually playing part of the match. That is very unusual for a final in a high level tournament like the US Open, so I imagine it did feel weird. So, not apologizing for winning, but feeling awkward about how the win happened.

We know exactly what Osaka said: " “I wasn’t really sure if they were booing at me” — but that she understood how they felt. “I also could sympathize because I’ve been a fan of Serena my whole life and I knew how badly the crowd wanted her to win,” Osaka told Today. “I was just emotional.”

Osaka went on to say that she felt “really happy” when Williams publicly stood up for her. The athlete also said that she felt as though she needed to apologize to the crowd when accepting her trophy. “I just felt like everyone was sort of unhappy up there. I know that the ending wasn’t how people wanted it to be,” she said."

https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/naomi-osaka-serena-williams-us-open-interview.html

Anonymous wrote:Naomi Osaka had to cry and apologize to the audience - for winning. She "knew" she was not supposed to win this match, not this day, not in this state, and not in this country. Name a single country in this world where a champion felt she had to apologize for winning. If you live in a glass house, quit throwing rocks at others.

I think she felt awkward about it because the chair umpire had awarded her a point and a game. So she won without the two of them actually playing part of the match. That is very unusual for a final in a high level tournament like the US Open, so I imagine it did feel weird. So, not apologizing for winning, but feeling awkward about how the win happened.

Naomi Osaka had to cry and apologize to the audience - for winning. She "knew" she was not supposed to win this match, not this day, not in this state, and not in this country. Name a single country in this world where a champion felt she had to apologize for winning. If you live in a glass house, quit throwing rocks at others.

All people all over the world have always been racists. Why? Because you like what is familiar.

However, educated people all over the world are now embracing differences, because they are exposed to different races. Only US is reverting back to a primitive state of mind. Idiots rule.

Anonymous wrote:I had a foreign-student friend in college who mentioned that japanese can be racists. In the scheming things, however, Japanese are more accepting than whites in this country.

You don't know what you are talking about.

-half white and half japanese

Anonymous wrote:If you don't have Japanese blood, they will not grant you Japanese citizenship. Even if your grandparents had immigrated long time ago. This happened to a Chinese man.

Yes, they are polite but jingo-racists. Here's the Japanese race hierarchy: Whites on top, then Japanes, all other Asians, dark people at the bottom.

To be exact, Japanese --> Orientals --> all other dark people including SE Asians, South Asians, and Africans.

I've studied in Japan for several years in the late 2000's so my perspective may shed some light. As several PPs mentioned, Japanese society is highly group oriented and there is a clear distinction of who is an insider and who is an outsider. This applies to numerous contexts, going as small as the family unit to classrooms to schools to companies, and of course ultimately to nationality. In fact the Japanese call foreigners as "gaijin" which literally translates to outside person. This is the cultural nexus for infamous Japanese imperialism the world witnessed during the world wars. Having said that, Japan has come a long way from imperialism and are now more accepting of outsiders. This is particularly true for millennials who want to break the mold and are starting to cause disruptions to traditional Japanese societal features that are frowned upon by western democracies such as chauvinism or absolute blind loyalty to an institution. However, this is not saying that Japanese people in general (especially the older generations, i.e., bombers and pre-bombers) openly accept foreigners in their society, but the trend is definitely heading towards that direction.

For Osaka's case in particular, most likely than not, whatever news about how the maternal family treated her was probably true, but that was decades ago and definitely not reflective of how the younger Japanese feel towards foreigners nowadays.

Anonymous wrote:I had a foreign-student friend in college who mentioned that japanese can be racists. In the scheming things, however, Japanese are more accepting than whites in this country.

That's based on your extensive understanding of Japanese culture, right?

I had a foreign-student friend in college who mentioned that japanese can be racists. In the scheming things, however, Japanese are more accepting than whites in this country.

Anonymous wrote:There's a detailed article about Osaka and acceptance/support from Japan in the new york times magazine, from shortly before the tournament began:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/magazine/naomi-osakas-breakthrough-game.html

Hopefully they continue to be welcoming. They need the stars like Naomi.

The realm of sports has been more welcoming. Unlike Miyamoto, Osaka has been embraced by Japanese media, companies and fans hungering for a female tennis star. Nissin, one of the world’s largest instant-noodle companies, has already signed her to a lucrative deal, as has Wowow, the tennis channel that broadcasts her matches in Japan. The Osaka camp plans to announce a large new endorsement deal before the U.S. Open, and other Japanese multinationals are circling. Osaka’s biggest payday may come at the end of the year, when her Adidas shoe-and-apparel contract expires — just in time for the prelude to the 2020 Tokyo Olympics.

If Osaka played under the American flag, it’s very unlikely that these opportunities would exist. Japanese companies would have no reason to court her and U.S. brands would have other higher-ranked young guns to consider, like Madison Keys and Sloane Stephens. But as Japan’s top-ranked player, Osaka has the full attention of the country’s top brands, whose sponsorship fees can run far higher than those of their Western counterparts.

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Anonymous wrote:But aren't Japanese polite people? If they're racist, they're not openly racist are they?

Yes, they are.

Being 'polite' has nothing to do with whether or not they are racist. They relegate all foreigners or minorities to poor/ghetto districts, inter-marriage of race or ethnicity but especially both is heavily frowned upon, beauty is to be the palest upon palest snow-white as possible and if you're not that - screw you, and Japanese media is openly discriminatory.

BTW their discrimination isn't just again non-Asians, the Japanese hate ANYONE that isn't Japanese and wants to live and/or mix with them. I have a Korean-American friend with a half-white son who is constantly facing judgement - so much so that she's coming back to the U.S. because the Japanese a) don't like that she's 'foreign', b) don't like that she isn't fluent in the language (but her son is), and c) think anything she does that is counter-culture to Japanese practices is wrong.

Here's a lovely shopkeeper advertisement that says 'Japanese Only'. It was specifically known to target Chinese consumers in the area - but you get the idea.

How about whites in Japan? I would imagine they be worshipped?

Nope. I have two friends who are white with Japanese spouses. One couple lives in the US and the other lives in Japan. Both have children. The family that live in the US have normal, American family lives. The family that lives in Japan have to send their mixed race kids to an international school because of extreme bullying and ostracization of their half white kids. Like a pp said, it’s pure Japanese or nothing.

But if you look at the advertising in Japan, they very clearly worship half-white Japanese people.

Your use of the word “worship” is weird. That word doesn’t mean what you think it means.

There's a detailed article about Osaka and acceptance/support from Japan in the new york times magazine, from shortly before the tournament began:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/magazine/naomi-osakas-breakthrough-game.html

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Anonymous wrote:But aren't Japanese polite people? If they're racist, they're not openly racist are they?

Yes, they are.

Being 'polite' has nothing to do with whether or not they are racist. They relegate all foreigners or minorities to poor/ghetto districts, inter-marriage of race or ethnicity but especially both is heavily frowned upon, beauty is to be the palest upon palest snow-white as possible and if you're not that - screw you, and Japanese media is openly discriminatory.

BTW their discrimination isn't just again non-Asians, the Japanese hate ANYONE that isn't Japanese and wants to live and/or mix with them. I have a Korean-American friend with a half-white son who is constantly facing judgement - so much so that she's coming back to the U.S. because the Japanese a) don't like that she's 'foreign', b) don't like that she isn't fluent in the language (but her son is), and c) think anything she does that is counter-culture to Japanese practices is wrong.

Here's a lovely shopkeeper advertisement that says 'Japanese Only'. It was specifically known to target Chinese consumers in the area - but you get the idea.

How about whites in Japan? I would imagine they be worshipped?

Nope. I have two friends who are white with Japanese spouses. One couple lives in the US and the other lives in Japan. Both have children. The family that live in the US have normal, American family lives. The family that lives in Japan have to send their mixed race kids to an international school because of extreme bullying and ostracization of their half white kids. Like a pp said, it’s pure Japanese or nothing.

But if you look at the advertising in Japan, they very clearly worship half-white Japanese people.