Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 23:15     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:Where's UVa


In Charlottesville.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 23:14     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:Can't help but notice that Georgetown , Hopkins, Annapolis and UMCP all being so close to each other may be the nations highest concentration of academic firepower.


Not even close. Take southern CA: UCLA, USC, Cal Tech, Pomona, Harvey Mudd....
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 23:11     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm puzzled by UChicago's dismal salary outcomes. It's not like everyone there goes into social work. And if you argue so many kids go onto be researchers and tenured professors, well, those aren't exactly low paying fields.


Payscale shows UChicago grads average approximately $60000-65000.

What amazes me is that UChicago admit rate just 15 yrs ago hovered around 40%. In short 15 yrs, their admit rate, selectivity, is down to a single digit. I am guessing a huge manipulation.


Chicago’s admit rate is 7.2% and yield this year was nearly 80% resulting in their largest entering class ever w over 1800 in the class of 22. The college has also strengthened and emphasized its corporate internship program for its students. It is doing something right. Certainly deserves its top 20 ranking.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 22:48     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Universities:
1- Harvard
2- Yale
3- Stanford
4- MIT
5- Princeton
6- Caltech
7- UPenn
8- Brown
9- Dartmouth
10- Duke
11- Georgetown
12- Cornell
13- UC Berkeley
14- Columbia
15- UChicago
16- Northwestern
17- Notre Dame
18- UMichigan
19- Johns Hopkins
20- Rice
21- USC
22- Vanderbilt
23- Tufts
24- UVA
25- WashU.


Far more accurate than US News.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 22:46     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm puzzled by UChicago's dismal salary outcomes. It's not like everyone there goes into social work. And if you argue so many kids go onto be researchers and tenured professors, well, those aren't exactly low paying fields.


Payscale shows UChicago grads average approximately $60000-65000.

What amazes me is that UChicago admit rate just 15 yrs ago hovered around 40%. In short 15 yrs, their admit rate, selectivity, is down to a single digit. I am guessing a huge manipulation.


I thought Chicago was producing all kinds of surgeons, corporate lawyers, management consultants, and financiers. Something off about that salary data. Chicago has top 3 incoming GPAs/SATs but sort of mediocre salaries. What the hell happens to all those ambitious brains once there?
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 22:37     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:Universities:
1- Harvard
2- Yale
3- Stanford
4- MIT
5- Princeton
6- Caltech
7- UPenn
8- Brown
9- Dartmouth
10- Duke
11- Georgetown
12- Cornell
13- UC Berkeley
14- Columbia
15- UChicago
16- Northwestern
17- Notre Dame
18- UMichigan
19- Johns Hopkins
20- Rice
21- USC
22- Vanderbilt
23- Tufts
24- UVA
25- WashU

LACs

1- Williams
2- Amherst
3- Bowdoin
4- Pomona
5- Harvey Mudd
6- Swarthmore
7- Claremont McKenna
8- Bates
9- Middlebury
10- Wesleyan
11- Haverford
12- Washington and Lee
13- Davidson
14- Wellesley
15- Colgate
16- Carleton
17- Vassar
18- Kenyon
19- Barnard
20- Lafayette

Looks pretty reasonable to me...


All of the Ivies are in the top 15 as usual...over half of the top 15.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 22:00     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:I'm puzzled by UChicago's dismal salary outcomes. It's not like everyone there goes into social work. And if you argue so many kids go onto be researchers and tenured professors, well, those aren't exactly low paying fields.


Payscale shows UChicago grads average approximately $60000-65000.

What amazes me is that UChicago admit rate just 15 yrs ago hovered around 40%. In short 15 yrs, their admit rate, selectivity, is down to a single digit. I am guessing a huge manipulation.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 21:50     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
I'm puzzled by UChicago's dismal salary outcomes. It's not like everyone there goes into social work. And if you argue so many kids go onto be researchers and tenured professors, well, those aren't exactly low paying fields.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 21:32     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:Why are LACs so poorly ranked? Last I remember in 2015 Pomona and Williams were #1/#2 by Forbes? Did they change their methodology?


Could be #1 and #2 among liberal arts colleges. Forbes has a separate ranking for liberal arts colleges.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 08:21     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:Why are LACs so poorly ranked? Last I remember in 2015 Pomona and Williams were #1/#2 by Forbes? Did they change their methodology?


Good question. Yes, they have, not only has the weighting changed but the sources for the data used has also changed. Shows how subjective these rankings can be.

I found the 2016 methodology

Post-Graduate Success (32.5%)
Student Debt (25%)
Student Satisfaction (25%)
Graduation Rate (7.5%)
Academic Success (10%)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinehoward/2016/07/06/top-colleges-ranking-2016-the-full-methodology/#5b9dbf315b82

2018 Methodology

Alumni Salary (20%)
Debt (20%)
Student Experience (20%)
American Leaders List (15%)
Academic Success (12.5%)
Graduation Rate (12.5%)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/cartercoudriet/2018/08/20/top-colleges-2018-the-methodology/#119eae163098
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 07:22     Subject: Re:Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
W&L and UVA did well, despite what the bigots on this board would have you believe.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2018 01:03     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Why are LACs so poorly ranked? Last I remember in 2015 Pomona and Williams were #1/#2 by Forbes? Did they change their methodology?
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2018 17:35     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:Terps 6th ranked public in the US. If they merge the law and medical they will easily be top 5.


It shows up as 12th in their list (counting academies).
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2018 16:57     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In what universe is Brown better than Columbia, Duke, and Dartmouth?


Well, you know Forbes is such a bastion of crazy leftist thought that it probably overrates Brown.

Related note: U. of Chicago way down there at #18.


UChicago is overrated. Their ROI is paltry $5000 more per year than UVA, according to PayScale. Forbes got UChicago right.


When I look at Payscale it may to suggest that majors may trump school brands in many cases. Take out the free service academies and you have MIT, Harvey Mudd, Colorado School of Mines, Caltech, Albany College of Pharmacy, Stevens Institute . . . Very STEM centric.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2018 16:50     Subject: Here Are America's Top Colleges for 2018
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can't help but notice that Georgetown , Hopkins, Annapolis and UMCP all being so close to each other may be the nations highest concentration of academic firepower.


Eh, Boston has you beat hands down.


and Harvard and MIT are both in Cambridge. That's hard to beat.