Anonymous
Post 08/17/2018 07:58     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:As a longtime property owner IB for Murch, I note that its relative position in the ranking order of "general schoolwide achievement" has .... unequivocally tanked. Relative to its extremely similar upper NW siblings; to schools like eaton and stoddert that also have a ton of rental apartments inbounds like Murch does (thereby allowing for an enrollment of somewhat less affluent students and ESL embassy kids); relative to the "rowhouse Riviera" from Dupont to Cap Hill -- where the housing style/yard size may differ, but the parents' jobs and education levels are the same as they are in Ward3.

If I had kids at Murch or headed there, I'd want some answers about its plummet over the past 10 years, in this imperfect but useful metric. It's undeniable. What's going on? The trend transcends principals, renovation, etc


There is a math problem
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2018 07:45     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
As a longtime property owner IB for Murch, I note that its relative position in the ranking order of "general schoolwide achievement" has .... unequivocally tanked. Relative to its extremely similar upper NW siblings; to schools like eaton and stoddert that also have a ton of rental apartments inbounds like Murch does (thereby allowing for an enrollment of somewhat less affluent students and ESL embassy kids); relative to the "rowhouse Riviera" from Dupont to Cap Hill -- where the housing style/yard size may differ, but the parents' jobs and education levels are the same as they are in Ward3.

If I had kids at Murch or headed there, I'd want some answers about its plummet over the past 10 years, in this imperfect but useful metric. It's undeniable. What's going on? The trend transcends principals, renovation, etc
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2018 07:18     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What are the top 10 DCPS (3-8) for ELA and Math?


Wards added. Each Ward should have a school in this grouping. Maybe the charters give some wards a chance at being at the top. Or the math scores might give other wards hope. No excuses.

ELA--top 10 DCPS elementary schools

Ross 88.5 Ward 2
Key 80.1 Ward 3
Janney 79.3 Ward 3
SWS 76.5. Ward 6
Stoddert 76.0 Ward 3
Mann 75.2 Ward 3
Lafayette 73.9 Ward 4
Ludlow-Taylor 72.0 Ward 6
Oyster 71.2 Ward 3
Murch 70.5. Ward 3
(Hyde [Ward 2], Eaton [Ward 3], Maury [Ward 6], Brent [Ward 6], and Hearst [Ward3] come next)

Math--top 10 DCPS elementary schools

Stoddert 82.8
Ross 82.0
Janney 81.4
Lafayette 79.7
SWS 76.5
Mann 75.2
Eaton 75
Key 73.7
Hyde 70.7
Maury 70
(Brent, Hearst, Murch, Oyster and Shepherd come next)

Anonymous
Post 08/17/2018 06:51     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Massive white/black student achievement gap at Deal

White 90/83 4+
Black 57/38 4+
Latino 61/42 4+



For some reason you forgot to include Asian:
White 90/83 4+
Asian 83/78 4+
Black 57/38 4+
Latino 61/42 4+

For some reason you also did not mention the obviously large gender gap at Deal:
Female 83/65 4+
Male 69/63 4+


So you think the gender gap at Deal is larger than the white/black gap? There is no (2 points) gender gap with mat and only 11 points on ELA. Nowhere near the same.


Wow, I never said - nor implied - that the gender gap was larger. In fact, I reported the actual data. And your math is not very good. The ELA differential is 14 points (83 minus 69 equals 14). The female ELA score is over 20% higher (14 divided by 69 equals 20.3%). Maybe that does not matter to you but it matters to others, including me. Are you only able to deal (pun intended!) with one gap at time?


I mistyped 11 when I meant to type 14.

Again, still don’t think a 14 point gap in one subject is worth mentioning in the same breath as the obviously huge black/white gap.


When is it worth mentioning? This is a discussion of the recently released PARCC scores. Seems like a perfectly good time to mention it.

And you say the large differential is only in one subject but there are only two PARCC subjects.

I agree with you the racial gap is large and important. Much of that gap is driven by factors that the school cannot control (e.g., at-risk factors, education level of parents, ESL). The gender performance gap is different because there are no systematic differences in those factors between boys and girls. This makes it much easier for the school to close the gender gap. The fact that Deal has not done this is a problem. And the gender gap gets significantly worse at Wilson where the female 4+ ELA is 41% higher and the female 4+ Math is 32% higher.



I suspect the racial gap and the gender gap *are* related. In some social groups, it becomes uncool to work hard and do well at school.
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2018 06:39     Subject: Re:2017-2018 PARCC results
I love that DCUM is having a discussion about the achievement gap on this thread.

If you want to explore this further, go to the EmpowerK12 website. They are an ed policy shop that analyzes PARCC trends and focuses on what's happening at among schools with AT-LEAST 30% at risk students (you school will not be mentioned if you don't have a lot of very disadvantaged kids; socioeconomic or racial and ethnic diversity along =/= at risk or disadvantaged).

I'm not affiliated AT ALL with EmpowerK12, but I think their data analysis is interesting. They've updated their dashboards with 2018 data (best viewed on desktop, not mobile) and are singling out some of the KIPP campuses, Ketchum ES and Washington Leadership Academy (high school) for especially strong improvement.

https://empowerk12.org/dc-parcc-and-equity
Anonymous
Post 08/17/2018 00:07     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, Ludlow seems to have really consolidated its gains! 72 ELA is legit, and 51 Math is a big improvement. Seems like it’s just getting better and better...


Look folks this isn't rocket science the richer/whiter the school the higher the scores..... next



That's why I find all the "wow ITS" stuff a bit disingenuous ... they have so few at risk kids they often can't even report on them.


Who in the world would be excited about ITS’ 58/47 PARCC scores? Only someone with low expectations.


I have at child at ITS in 3/4th grade. The composite average scores in those grades in both subjects was 65%. These are grades that are majority minority as well as significant IEPs (including my DC). It’s quite hard to compare ITS to other schools that only go through 5th. You’d be better served comparing grade by grade. My friend had a 7th grader where all but 2 kids were brand new to the school in that grade. For us, ITS’s 3rd/4th/5th were 10 points higher than our WOTP DCPS at same grade, 40 points higher than my friend’s ward 1 school. So yeah, it’s all about perspective as well as statistical comparisons
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2018 23:26     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, Ludlow seems to have really consolidated its gains! 72 ELA is legit, and 51 Math is a big improvement. Seems like it’s just getting better and better...


Look folks this isn't rocket science the richer/whiter the school the higher the scores..... next



With KIPP and DC Prep being notable exceptions to that rule.


Also Banneker.


Also LAMB.


Banneker should be insulted that LAMB is trying to include itself in the same category—the scores at those two schools are NOT close.


LAMB is doing an excellent job educating a very diverse population. Why shit on that?


That fourth grade class at lamb has gone through a lot. Leave them alone.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2018 23:25     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:So where is the achievement gap below 40 or 50%?


At Oyster-Adams, the black/white achievement gap in ELA is 12%; however it’s 32% in math.


There is essentially no black/white achievement gap at Ross: 4% in ELA and 0% in Math. DCPS needs to bottle and replicate whatever is going on at Ross!


I wonder—are the black kids at Ross high SES or something? Since we know a lot of this boils down to SES differences?


Probably, but aren’t most of the black kids at Janney, Key, Mann, Murch, etc...also high SES? Those schools all have much larger achievement gaps than Ross.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2018 23:22     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:So where is the achievement gap below 40 or 50%?


Looking just at black and white, and leaving out the schools with so few kids of either race that the school doesn't report them (which leaves out most schools--only 39 are left), here is the ranking from smallest to biggest gap in ELA:

School Name White % 4+5 minus Black % 4+5

Capitol Hill Montessori School @ Logan -0.3
Ross Elementary School 3.9
Oyster-Adams Bilingual School 11.7
Mann Elementary School 12
Washington Yu Ying PCS 15.6
School Without Walls High School 17.5
E.L. Haynes PCS - Middle School 22.3
Stoddert Elementary School 23.6
Elsie Whitlow Stokes Community Freedom PCS 24.1
Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School 24.5
Key Elementary School 25.7
Janney Elementary School 28
Eaton Elementary School 28.5
Lafayette Elementary School 29.2
BASIS DC PCS 31.4
Hardy Middle School 31.9
District of Columbia International School 33.8
Deal Middle School 33.9
Hyde-Addison Elementary School @ Meyer 34.4
Washington Latin PCS - Upper School 35
Creative Minds International PCS 36
Hearst Elementary School 39
Washington Latin PCS - Middle School 39.2
Tyler Elementary School 43.1
Inspired Teaching Demonstration PCS 44.5
Duke Ellington School of the Arts 44.6
Woodrow Wilson High School 44.9
Murch Elementary School @ UDC 45.7
Watkins Elementary School (Capitol Hill Cluster) 45.7
School Without Walls @ Francis-Stevens 45.9
School-Within-School @ Goding 46.1
Brent Elementary School 46.7
Latin American Montessori Bilingual PCS 49.2
Mundo Verde Bilingual PCS 50.1
Two Rivers PCS - 4th St 50.2
Bancroft Elementary School @ Sharpe 52.3
Capital City PCS - Middle School 52.9
Maury Elementary School @ Eliot-Hine 52.9
Stuart-Hobson Middle School (Capitol Hill Cluster) 55.6

And here it is for math:
School Name White % 4+5 minus Black % 4+5

Ross Elementary School 0.5
Duke Ellington School of the Arts 14.3
Tyler Elementary School 23.2
Capitol Hill Montessori School @ Logan 26.7
Eaton Elementary School 28.3
Woodrow Wilson High School 29.7
School Without Walls High School 30.7
Mann Elementary School 31.5
Oyster-Adams Bilingual School 32.2
Stoddert Elementary School 32.3
E.L. Haynes PCS - Middle School 34.3
Elsie Whitlow Stokes Community Freedom PCS 36.3
Hyde-Addison Elementary School @ Meyer 37.6
Bancroft Elementary School @ Sharpe 39.1
Lafayette Elementary School 39.6
District of Columbia International School 40.3
Hearst Elementary School 42
Key Elementary School 42.2
Washington Yu Ying PCS 44
Deal Middle School 44.3
Murch Elementary School @ UDC 45.7
School Without Walls @ Francis-Stevens 46.1
BASIS DC PCS 46.9
Hardy Middle School 47.1
Latin American Montessori Bilingual PCS 47.9
Mundo Verde Bilingual PCS 48.1
Washington Latin PCS - Middle School 48.3
Janney Elementary School 51.1
Watkins Elementary School (Capitol Hill Cluster) 53.1
Capital City PCS - Middle School 53.6
Creative Minds International PCS 53.9
Maury Elementary School @ Eliot-Hine 57.6
Ludlow-Taylor Elementary School 60.1
Brent Elementary School 61.8
Inspired Teaching Demonstration PCS 61.9
Two Rivers PCS - 4th St 64.6
Washington Latin PCS - Upper School 66
Stuart-Hobson Middle School (Capitol Hill Cluster) 69.8
School-Within-School @ Goding 70.3

Anonymous
Post 08/16/2018 23:22     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, Ludlow seems to have really consolidated its gains! 72 ELA is legit, and 51 Math is a big improvement. Seems like it’s just getting better and better...


Look folks this isn't rocket science the richer/whiter the school the higher the scores..... next



With KIPP and DC Prep being notable exceptions to that rule.


Also Banneker.


Also LAMB.


Banneker should be insulted that LAMB is trying to include itself in the same category—the scores at those two schools are NOT close.


LAMB is doing an excellent job educating a very diverse population. Why shit on that?


No one is shitting on LAMB’s efforts, but let’s be honest. LAMB is doing an OK job “educating a very diverse population.” It’s in no way, shape, form or fashion doing what Banneker is doing with a much poorer population.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2018 23:19     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Massive white/black student achievement gap at Deal

White 90/83 4+
Black 57/38 4+
Latino 61/42 4+



For some reason you forgot to include Asian:
White 90/83 4+
Asian 83/78 4+
Black 57/38 4+
Latino 61/42 4+

For some reason you also did not mention the obviously large gender gap at Deal:
Female 83/65 4+
Male 69/63 4+


So you think the gender gap at Deal is larger than the white/black gap? There is no (2 points) gender gap with mat and only 11 points on ELA. Nowhere near the same.


Wow, I never said - nor implied - that the gender gap was larger. In fact, I reported the actual data. And your math is not very good. The ELA differential is 14 points (83 minus 69 equals 14). The female ELA score is over 20% higher (14 divided by 69 equals 20.3%). Maybe that does not matter to you but it matters to others, including me. Are you only able to deal (pun intended!) with one gap at time?


I mistyped 11 when I meant to type 14.

Again, still don’t think a 14 point gap in one subject is worth mentioning in the same breath as the obviously huge black/white gap.


When is it worth mentioning? This is a discussion of the recently released PARCC scores. Seems like a perfectly good time to mention it.

And you say the large differential is only in one subject but there are only two PARCC subjects.

I agree with you the racial gap is large and important. Much of that gap is driven by factors that the school cannot control (e.g., at-risk factors, education level of parents, ESL). The gender performance gap is different because there are no systematic differences in those factors between boys and girls. This makes it much easier for the school to close the gender gap. The fact that Deal has not done this is a problem. And the gender gap gets significantly worse at Wilson where the female 4+ ELA is 41% higher and the female 4+ Math is 32% higher.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2018 23:15     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So where is the achievement gap below 40 or 50%?


At Oyster-Adams, the black/white achievement gap in ELA is 12%; however it’s 32% in math.


There is essentially no black/white achievement gap at Ross: 4% in ELA and 0% in Math. DCPS needs to bottle and replicate whatever is going on at Ross!


Give me a break people. Do you really think there are a ton of at-risk kids at Ross? You’re an idiot.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2018 23:02     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:More digestible format for school by school, grade level and subgroups here

http://results.osse.dc.gov/



EmpowerK12 has updated their DC PARCC dashboards: https://empowerk12.org/dc-parcc-and-equity

They make it pretty easy to slice and dice the data so you can see how schools compare against each other as well as how much they are improving. This dash is my fave, but I would definitely watch the explainer video below it to learn how the visualizations interact with each other: https://empowerk12.org/dc-parcc-dash
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2018 22:56     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So where is the achievement gap below 40 or 50%?


At Oyster-Adams, the black/white achievement gap in ELA is 12%; however it’s 32% in math.


There is essentially no black/white achievement gap at Ross: 4% in ELA and 0% in Math. DCPS needs to bottle and replicate whatever is going on at Ross!


I wonder—are the black kids at Ross high SES or something? Since we know a lot of this boils down to SES differences?


Answer is yes. 18% AA, 18% Hispanic Latino, 12% Economically disadvantaged, and of note 3% special needs. Do they counsel these kids out? Ross is the new Key in a boundary economic advantage standpoint.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2018 22:53     Subject: 2017-2018 PARCC results
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So where is the achievement gap below 40 or 50%?


At Oyster-Adams, the black/white achievement gap in ELA is 12%; however it’s 32% in math.


There is essentially no black/white achievement gap at Ross: 4% in ELA and 0% in Math. DCPS needs to bottle and replicate whatever is going on at Ross!


I wonder—are the black kids at Ross high SES or something? Since we know a lot of this boils down to SES differences?