Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 11:39     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Sounds like you are adjusting. If you have further compliants. I woukd ask if one of you could come over while the other grinds and then blends, so you can hear the noise. Our neighbors used to give us the stink eye and I had no idea why. Then we moved into thier apartment after they moved out (it was bigger). While moving I heard a horrible sound coming from pur old apartment. It sounded like my husband was taking a sledge hammer to the walls. I ran over and had just opened and closed a few cabinets. Soundscan travel in weird ways.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 11:33     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
I'd ignore and if this person wants to address it again I'd let them know that I'm now already wrapping a towel around it/using a different counter and am not willing to change my life for them to avoid a known quantity. In other words- some unexpected sound that you can't place? That would be troubling/make you lose sleep. A damn blender in the am? Roll over and go back to sleep.

Humans living cheek to jowl with humans need to expect to hear humans living their lives.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 11:30     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
My brother runs his commercial grade pasta machine regularly in his apartment kitchen. After a noise complaint from a neighbor, he bought foam mats and little foam disks (similar to what you put under furniture) and that helped a lot as the noise was magnified with the vibrations from the cabinets.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 11:25     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Grinding coffee at 6 am? Yes, inconsiderate. Can’t you grind the night before?
If he can hear it then you are disturbing him.


I dn’t know if he hears the coffee grinder or the blender. Neighbor just said noise in our kitchen. Oddly, he can hear our kitchen noise from his bedroom although we can’t hear our own kitchen noise from our bedroom with the identical layout. Even if DH grinds the night before, the blender is at the same decibel I think. I’m not making smoothies the night before.


I bet your vents are connected somehow if it is new construction.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 11:19     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:Who are you people? Just because you get up by 6am doesn't mean the whole world is. Making Loud noises (e.g. Blenders are about 78-85 dB) before 8 a.m. is rude -- weekday or weekend. If you live in a shared space, you *should* be extra vigilant.


Who are you that nothing noisy should be done before 8 am?

If I have to listen to my neighbor's booming video game noises all night, he can listen to my blender each morning at 6:30 am.

The earliest dumpster pick up allowed at my apartment building M-F is 6 am (8:30 am Sat & Sun), so I use that as my rule.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 11:11     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:Coffee snobs. I NEED my coffee! I need it NOW! I need my smoothy! really. Coffee snobs can't their kids anywhere on time but they have their coffee in their hand. You understand that you are an addict right. I wish coffee addiction was so socially acceptable. If I showed up at work with a non alcoholic beer, everyone would think I'm nuts but people have to get on the metro with their coffee even though it's against the rules, people think that because it's coffee, it has to be accepted whatever they do with it. It's nasty What if I walked around the office with my spit cup because I chew tobacco? Here's a rule to try to follow...don't make your addiction someone else's problem. Thanks.


7 a.m. in one's own home on a weekday is a perfectly acceptable time for coffee preparation.

Now, if you were visiting someone else's home and ground beans at 5 a.m. to catch an early flight because you neeeeeeeeeeeeed your coffee nowwww, your argument would have a leg to stand on. That would be obnoxious, addict-like behavior. But 7 a.m. on a weekday in one's own home is exactly the time and place for coffee prep.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 11:09     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Nope. It would be inconsiderate to play loud music at 4 a.m. on a Tuesday; that's an unreasonable time for something like that.

But 7 a.m. on a weekday is totally appropriate smoothie time, or food preparation of any sort. It is purposeful, time-appropriate behavior. Be glad it's not 6 a.m.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 11:01     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:I make coffee every morning at 5am while DH and the kids are still sleeping. I would love freshly ground coffee but I would never think of running a loud machine while they are sleeping. It’s inconsiderate. Same for a blender.

Grind your coffee at night or buy ground coffee. If it’s too early to run a leaf blower or weed whacker it is too early to grind coffee in a townhouse.


This. Part of my Friday evening routing is ensuring I have enough coffee ground so I can make coffee whenever I get up without waking the entire house. If you simply can't tolerate coffee that is ground 10 hours before you make it, you're too precious for words.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 10:59     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Of course you can make smoothies the night before.

Just freeze them in individual containers and pull one out of the freezer right before you turn on the coffee maker, which you set up the night before.

See how easily we made that noisy morning much more peaceable?

Coffee grinders are noise pollution. We have a rule at the beach house that the coffee is set up the night before, OR the person who wants freshly ground beans goes outside and grinds them 100 feet from the house.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 10:59     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Coffee snobs. I NEED my coffee! I need it NOW! I need my smoothy! really. Coffee snobs can't their kids anywhere on time but they have their coffee in their hand. You understand that you are an addict right. I wish coffee addiction was so socially acceptable. If I showed up at work with a non alcoholic beer, everyone would think I'm nuts but people have to get on the metro with their coffee even though it's against the rules, people think that because it's coffee, it has to be accepted whatever they do with it. It's nasty What if I walked around the office with my spit cup because I chew tobacco? Here's a rule to try to follow...don't make your addiction someone else's problem. Thanks.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 10:55     Subject: Re:Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you otherwise like this neighbor then I would try and accommodate him. He is trying to tell you nicely that something you do bothers him. If you are able to change it then I would.
One day you might need him to do something for you.

This was a one time thing but a couple of years ago my neighbor started using an electric tree trimmer thing at 1pm right when DD was trying to take a nap. I went out and asked him if he could wait until 3 and he did. Its part of getting along with people.


Ding ding ding!

If OP had to run a life saving machine every morning at 6 am then I'd say the neighbor has to deal. But none of the noise she is making is necessary for that hour - why can't she just change a few things and keep the neighbor happy?

Who are you people that don’t think coffee is necessary in the morning? I would grind the beans the night before because thats easy but the smoothie I don’t know. OP is entitled to use her kitchen at 6 am.


What?!? I drink coffee every morning - it is necessary for me. What I do no do is run a noisy grinder. I open the can and scoop out my coffee. Very easily accomplished with no noise whatsoever.

Now if you're going to claim that there is no way you would ever drink canned coffee and absolutely must grind yours fresh every morning, then of course this becomes all about you and your coffee snobbery. If that's the case, then I'm sure there's no reasoning with you.

Did you even read or just decide there’s “no reasoning with me?” Because I said right there I would grind them the night before. Problem solved.


I'm sorry - I was referring to the universal "you", not you in particular. I know you said you would grind at night, and that's great. I was trying to preemptively address the "only grind in the morning for freshest coffee" crowd that I assumed would parachute in, to try and justify this as normal morning behavior.

My bad.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 10:32     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:Are you an apartment or condo with ductwork? Sounds travel really strangely through those. I have lived in places where the sound from part of a neighbor’s unit was louder in part of my unit than something happening in my own unit. It wasn’t through the shared wall, but the ductwork. I remember I had a couple whose activity was loud and frequent (she was a screamer) and they actually loved one floor up and a unit over from mine (not directly overhead). It sucks, but it’s apartment living.


This was my first thought as well. Not so much through the walls, but the ducts. My neighbors at my last apartment were big weed smokers. I'd come home and my apartment would reek; anything fabric directly under a vent absorbed the smell as well.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 10:26     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Anonymous wrote:Just saw the update that you will grind at night. Buy a magic bullet, put the ingredients in at home and blend at work since you leave by 7.


I meant for the smoothie since you said you still want this.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 10:24     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
Just saw the update that you will grind at night. Buy a magic bullet, put the ingredients in at home and blend at work since you leave by 7.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2018 10:24     Subject: Shared wall and small kitchen appliance use at 6 am weekdays
OP, if it’s only through the weekdays, can you grind at night and prep your coffee the night before? Weekends, you’re cool to grind your coffee at 9am.


Yeah, maybe it’s not quite as yummy as grinding immediately before brewing, but I’d say the few hours of oxidation are worth a cranky neighbour.