Anonymous wrote:My teacher colleagues and I got together this week for drinks. It was really fun. One of the best parts was when I opened up my phone to show them this whole thread and we were laughing so hard. The whole idea of including parents as people qualified to answer this question is hilarious. Thank you for the hardest laugh I've had in forever!

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OP here. I was very interested in reading this blog series, although no teachers I know use the Daily Five approach now. I kept waiting for Shanahan to clearly lay out what techniques he believes are most effective to reach the goals he sets forth. If a teacher posted this, could you let me know how you organize your literacy period according to Shanahan's goals?

What are these goals? My reading of the research says that students need to learn words and word parts (to read them, to interpret them), they need to be able to read text fluently (with sufficient accuracy, speed, and prosody), they need to be able to understand and interpret the ideas in text, and they need to convey their own ideas through text (writing). These are all critically important goals, and each of them has many sub goals.

I would argue teachers should provide students with explicit instruction and lots of practice time in each of these four learning areas on a daily basis. Rather than focusing on four or five activities that kids should be engaged in everyday, I’d rather have teachers thinking about what activities they should encourage based on the learning goals in each of these areas. Thus, it would be very reasonable to spend 30 minutes on words, 30 minutes on fluency, 30 minutes on reading comprehension, and 30 minutes on writing everyday (on average)—even though the actual activities would vary.

A daily organizing plan that is focused on these outcomes makes greater sense than one based on activities such as read to self or read to someone.

And such a plan makes sense even when using “core reading programs” or “basal readers” because they help teachers to choose among the many options such programs provide.

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Anonymous wrote:Well I think you have a lot of teachers disagreeing with you. They've mentioned comic books, star wars, etc. to get kids hooked on reading. My original point was that 3-4 days a week just having independent reading is a much different reading program than the program kids are getting in private schools where they are required to read higher content and higher thinking books with limited choices and also required to respond after reading verbally or in writing.

I dunno. My kids just in a plain ol' public school in a poor part of the county but in 4th and 5th grade grade their class read Tuck Everlasting, the Secret Garden, Bud not Buddy, Where the Mountain Meets the Moon, Maniac McGee, Because of Winn Dixie, and Where the Red Fern Grows. They had to do a lot of responding to the text....What are kids in private schools reading?

Gifted or regular ed? What school district?

This blog series on problems within public schools on reading related to the Daily 5 program are very insightful.

http://shanahanonliteracy.com/blog/daily-5-and-common-core#sthash.DXj2M10q.dpbs

http://shanahanonliteracy.com/blog/how-to-organize...on-part-i#sthash.6ywVjuhv.dpbs

http://shanahanonliteracy.com/blog/how-to-organize...n-part-ii#sthash.e7W9X1dp.dpbs

http://shanahanonliteracy.com/blog/how-to-organize...-part-iii#sthash.s7PF2HWk.dpbs

http://shanahanonliteracy.com/blog/how-to-organize...n-part-iv#sthash.gRckg1BX.dpbs

http://shanahanonliteracy.com/blog/why-standards-b...hievement#sthash.O32JkXwH.dpbs

http://www.cdl.org/articles/how-to-organize-daily-literacy-instruction/

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Anonymous wrote:Well I think you have a lot of teachers disagreeing with you. They've mentioned comic books, star wars, etc. to get kids hooked on reading. My original point was that 3-4 days a week just having independent reading is a much different reading program than the program kids are getting in private schools where they are required to read higher content and higher thinking books with limited choices and also required to respond after reading verbally or in writing.

I dunno. My kids just in a plain ol' public school in a poor part of the county but in 4th and 5th grade grade their class read Tuck Everlasting, the Secret Garden, Bud not Buddy, Where the Mountain Meets the Moon, Maniac McGee, Because of Winn Dixie, and Where the Red Fern Grows. They had to do a lot of responding to the text....What are kids in private schools reading?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well I think you have a lot of teachers disagreeing with you. They've mentioned comic books, star wars, etc. to get kids hooked on reading. My original point was that 3-4 days a week just having independent reading is a much different reading program than the program kids are getting in private schools where they are required to read higher content and higher thinking books with limited choices and also required to respond after reading verbally or in writing.

I dunno. My kids just in a plain ol' public school in a poor part of the county but in 4th and 5th grade grade their class read Tuck Everlasting, the Secret Garden, Bud not Buddy, Where the Mountain Meets the Moon, Maniac McGee, Because of Winn Dixie, and Where the Red Fern Grows. They had to do a lot of responding to the text....What are kids in private schools reading?

Gifted or regular ed? What school district?

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Anonymous wrote:Well I think you have a lot of teachers disagreeing with you. They've mentioned comic books, star wars, etc. to get kids hooked on reading. My original point was that 3-4 days a week just having independent reading is a much different reading program than the program kids are getting in private schools where they are required to read higher content and higher thinking books with limited choices and also required to respond after reading verbally or in writing.

I dunno. My kids just in a plain ol' public school in a poor part of the county but in 4th and 5th grade grade their class read Tuck Everlasting, the Secret Garden, Bud not Buddy, Where the Mountain Meets the Moon, Maniac McGee, Because of Winn Dixie, and Where the Red Fern Grows. They had to do a lot of responding to the text....What are kids in private schools reading?

Anonymous wrote:Well I think you have a lot of teachers disagreeing with you. They've mentioned comic books, star wars, etc. to get kids hooked on reading. My original point was that 3-4 days a week just having independent reading is a much different reading program than the program kids are getting in private schools where they are required to read higher content and higher thinking books with limited choices and also required to respond after reading verbally or in writing.

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Anonymous wrote:However the reality is that many public schools, not all, are instituting a lot of independent reading time with little to no check on what is being read.

. This is a fine strategy.

Anonymous wrote:However the reality is that many public schools, not all, are instituting a lot of independent reading time with little to no check on what is being read.

Anonymous wrote:However the reality is that many public schools, not all, are instituting a lot of independent reading time with little to no check on what is being read.