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But that’s the thing...generally, no one is co-opting the truly masculine sounding names. They’re using names like Elliott that have a “feminine” cadence. That’s how Ashley, Leslie, and Vivian ended up as girls’ names; they already sounded feminine.

What's a "feminine cadence" about these names? I'm asking sincerely. Are you thinking, for example, that Elliott sounds like Elliette, and -ette is feminine? Or Ashley and Leslie end in -y, like Molly and Amy? Or Vivian is like Vivi-ann?

And in that case, wouldn't there be lots of girl named Noah (like Susannah and Rebekah!) or Logan ((like Log-ann!)?

Noa is a girl's name in Israel. And Logan is both a boy's name and a girl's name.

We are talking about the US.

How about Aidan - any girl Aidans?

I know a female Aidan and a female Elliot. Both in their 40s.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate giving little girls boys names. It's like saying there's something wrong with the girls names already there. People never name their boys girls names either, so it's pretty sexist.

+1 Giving a girl a boy's name seems to imply that being a girl isn't good enough. But you can name a little girl Elliott or Stan or Harry and she will still be a little girl at the end of the day. Why not embrace the fact that she's a little girl and give her a feminine name?

Being a girl is awesome. Women are strong. Our mothers, grandmothers and great grandmas were some mighty amazing women and they didn't need to be named Harold to be amazing.

My DD is so strong she can carry a traditionally male name.

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Anonymous wrote:

But that’s the thing...generally, no one is co-opting the truly masculine sounding names. They’re using names like Elliott that have a “feminine” cadence. That’s how Ashley, Leslie, and Vivian ended up as girls’ names; they already sounded feminine.

What's a "feminine cadence" about these names? I'm asking sincerely. Are you thinking, for example, that Elliott sounds like Elliette, and -ette is feminine? Or Ashley and Leslie end in -y, like Molly and Amy? Or Vivian is like Vivi-ann?

And in that case, wouldn't there be lots of girl named Noah (like Susannah and Rebekah!) or Logan ((like Log-ann!)?

I guess I feel like the names that will never be widely used for girls sound very...abrupt? John, Hank, Bob, Jake, etc. But the male names that are trending for girls sound like existing feminine names. Juliette, Colette, Elliott. Adrienne, Vivian, Ryan, Dylan. And so forth.

As another PP pointed out, Logan has been used as girl’s name for quite some time...it’s probably much more widely used than Elliott or any of the other names mentioned in this thread.

Elliot is male - just ask ET. “Phone home”

Anonymous wrote:I actually have no problem with traditionally male names on girls. My daughter is Kyle and she is names after an old female friend whose first name was Kyle, too.

I think Elliot is cute for a girl. So is Ellis.

Oh dear. Now i’ve heard everything.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But that’s the thing...generally, no one is co-opting the truly masculine sounding names. They’re using names like Elliott that have a “feminine” cadence. That’s how Ashley, Leslie, and Vivian ended up as girls’ names; they already sounded feminine.

What's a "feminine cadence" about these names? I'm asking sincerely. Are you thinking, for example, that Elliott sounds like Elliette, and -ette is feminine? Or Ashley and Leslie end in -y, like Molly and Amy? Or Vivian is like Vivi-ann?

And in that case, wouldn't there be lots of girl named Noah (like Susannah and Rebekah!) or Logan ((like Log-ann!)?

Noa is a girl's name in Israel. And Logan is both a boy's name and a girl's name.

We are talking about the US.

How about Aidan - any girl Aidans?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But that’s the thing...generally, no one is co-opting the truly masculine sounding names. They’re using names like Elliott that have a “feminine” cadence. That’s how Ashley, Leslie, and Vivian ended up as girls’ names; they already sounded feminine.

What's a "feminine cadence" about these names? I'm asking sincerely. Are you thinking, for example, that Elliott sounds like Elliette, and -ette is feminine? Or Ashley and Leslie end in -y, like Molly and Amy? Or Vivian is like Vivi-ann?

And in that case, wouldn't there be lots of girl named Noah (like Susannah and Rebekah!) or Logan ((like Log-ann!)?

Noa is a girl's name in Israel. And Logan is both a boy's name and a girl's name.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not listen to the radio?

Anyway, blame the little girl Elliots on Scrubs.

Always male until this^

Yep. When that character is first introduced in Scrubs, she gets a look for having a male name she says her father wanted a son.

Anonymous wrote:I grew up with a traditionally masculine name and early in my career, I liked that employers didn't know which I was until I interviewed. They also say that people become like their names - so girls with -ie or y at the end of their name are less likely to enter into sciences or hard core math professions - of course, there are exceptions, but that's why I named my daughter's a masculine type name.

Right or wrong, a girl named Stanley might have a difficult time getting baby sitting jobs or being hired as a mammography technician....based solely on the sound of her masculine name.

I guess there are two side to that sword.

I grew up with a traditionally masculine name and early in my career, I liked that employers didn't know which I was until I interviewed. They also say that people become like their names - so girls with -ie or y at the end of their name are less likely to enter into sciences or hard core math professions - of course, there are exceptions, but that's why I named my daughter's a masculine type name.

Elliana would be so much prettier for a girl, nn Ellie would be so cute.

Elliott is just dumb for a girl.

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Anonymous wrote:

But that’s the thing...generally, no one is co-opting the truly masculine sounding names. They’re using names like Elliott that have a “feminine” cadence. That’s how Ashley, Leslie, and Vivian ended up as girls’ names; they already sounded feminine.

What's a "feminine cadence" about these names? I'm asking sincerely. Are you thinking, for example, that Elliott sounds like Elliette, and -ette is feminine? Or Ashley and Leslie end in -y, like Molly and Amy? Or Vivian is like Vivi-ann?

And in that case, wouldn't there be lots of girl named Noah (like Susannah and Rebekah!) or Logan ((like Log-ann!)?

^^^also, what do you consider a "truly masculine sounding" name?

Anonymous wrote:

But that’s the thing...generally, no one is co-opting the truly masculine sounding names. They’re using names like Elliott that have a “feminine” cadence. That’s how Ashley, Leslie, and Vivian ended up as girls’ names; they already sounded feminine.

What's a "feminine cadence" about these names? I'm asking sincerely. Are you thinking, for example, that Elliott sounds like Elliette, and -ette is feminine? Or Ashley and Leslie end in -y, like Molly and Amy? Or Vivian is like Vivi-ann?

And in that case, wouldn't there be lots of girl named Noah (like Susannah and Rebekah!) or Logan ((like Log-ann!)?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate giving little girls boys names. It's like saying there's something wrong with the girls names already there. People never name their boys girls names either, so it's pretty sexist.

+1 Giving a girl a boy's name seems to imply that being a girl isn't good enough. But you can name a little girl Elliott or Stan or Harry and she will still be a little girl at the end of the day. Why not embrace the fact that she's a little girl and give her a feminine name?

Being a girl is awesome. Women are strong. Our mothers, grandmothers and great grandmas were some mighty amazing women and they didn't need to be named Harold to be amazing.

So women are strong and amazing, but they’re not allowed to name their daughters something unfeminine? Mmkay.

Oh, please. You know what PP meant. This idea that men's names are inherently stronger is misogynist garbage. I, too, am fed up with parents giving their girls traditionally male names because they want something "strong-sounding."

But that’s the thing...generally, no one is co-opting the truly masculine sounding names. They’re using names like Elliott that have a “feminine” cadence. That’s how Ashley, Leslie, and Vivian ended up as girls’ names; they already sounded feminine.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate giving little girls boys names. It's like saying there's something wrong with the girls names already there. People never name their boys girls names either, so it's pretty sexist.

+1 Giving a girl a boy's name seems to imply that being a girl isn't good enough. But you can name a little girl Elliott or Stan or Harry and she will still be a little girl at the end of the day. Why not embrace the fact that she's a little girl and give her a feminine name?

Being a girl is awesome. Women are strong. Our mothers, grandmothers and great grandmas were some mighty amazing women and they didn't need to be named Harold to be amazing.

So women are strong and amazing, but they’re not allowed to name their daughters something unfeminine? Mmkay.

Oh, please. You know what PP meant. This idea that men's names are inherently stronger is misogynist garbage. I, too, am fed up with parents giving their girls traditionally male names because they want something "strong-sounding."