Very strong class this year and the college admissions were very difficult.

Anonymous wrote:I count 73 going to Ivys, Stanford, MIT, CalTech, UChicago and Duke (incl 1 Robertson Scholar) out of 366 kids reporting. Dang that's an impressive 20% going to elite schools (with 8% or lower admission rates) in the toughest ever admissions cycle.

Throw in 73 to UVA and the kids going to schools like Carnegie Mellon, Hopkins, West Point, Amherst, Michigan, Georgetown and you have 50% of reporting 2018 TJ grads going to top colleges. Either this was an extremely strong class at TJ or the much discussed TJ penalty in college admissions is overblown.

To make any sense of your math you need to know how many applied and were rejected from those schools.

I count 73 going to Ivys, Stanford, MIT, CalTech, UChicago and Duke (incl 1 Robertson Scholar) out of 366 kids reporting. Dang that's an impressive 20% going to elite schools (with 8% or lower admission rates) in the toughest ever admissions cycle.

Throw in 73 to UVA and the kids going to schools like Carnegie Mellon, Hopkins, West Point, Amherst, Michigan, Georgetown and you have 50% of reporting 2018 TJ grads going to top colleges. Either this was an extremely strong class at TJ or the much discussed TJ penalty in college admissions is overblown.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the link to the actual TJ College Destinations list: https://imgur.com/a/ODuvQyA

why does it say University of Chicago (2) but then 8 names are listed?

Because they had problems formatting the Senior Edition. There are also places with (1) kid and multiple names. The list of names is correct.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the link to the actual TJ College Destinations list: https://imgur.com/a/ODuvQyA

Is the list comprehensive? My DC looked for a kid they were in class with back in MS and can't find them. The child was enrolled in every STEM extracurricular at school, spent every weekend running around non-stop to practices for this and that and placed in every competition. They still live here and TJ was such a prize for that family that I can't imagine them dropping out.

No. This is self reported. About 50 kids did not report. Some kids didn’t report because they are seniors and don’t GAF. Some kids didn’t report because the TJ college list gets widely circulated with names, and they don’t want their names and colleges out there. Several kids. Who were left off are definitely headed to UVA and WM.

Anonymous wrote:Here is the link to the actual TJ College Destinations list: https://imgur.com/a/ODuvQyA

why does it say University of Chicago (2) but then 8 names are listed?

Anonymous wrote:Here is the link to the actual TJ College Destinations list: https://imgur.com/a/ODuvQyA

Is the list comprehensive? My DC looked for a kid they were in class with back in MS and can't find them. The child was enrolled in every STEM extracurricular at school, spent every weekend running around non-stop to practices for this and that and placed in every competition. They still live here and TJ was such a prize for that family that I can't imagine them dropping out.

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Anonymous wrote:To OP - I noticed the 75 to UVA and 32+ to Virginia Tech. That is an increase, isn't it? Isn't it usually 60 to UVA? This was a tough year for admission to Virginia Tech, so am curious if the TJ number is up. And I assume most of those are for engineering?

Last year’s list was

UVA 62
VT. 42
WM. 39
VCU. 10
GMU. 7

Given that some kids are missing, it looks like UVA is up, WM is down and VT, VCU, GMU basically held steady

Berkley was the big one left off the list. Pitt was way up. GA Tech was way up. This year had 2-3 more kids go to several of the Ivy’s (Harvard, Yale, etc.), Plus, a few more Duke and Chicago. A few fewer to Michigan. A few more to UI-CU.


Here is the 2017 list:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/649621.page

And yes, kids who go to VT usually do engineering. Some do other specialized programs, like architecture or their environmental sciences program.

Thank you. I don't have anyone at VT but have been watching the statistics change. So I'm right about a jump in UVA students - that comports with what I'm seeing across the board with VA schools - just a general increase in applications and rise in required stats to get in because the SLACs, LACs and private universities have price themselves out of affordability for most families.

The TJ students attending GMU major in engineering or computer science, right? I have a DC who recently graduated from there. I understand the engineering, computer and econ departments are strong (DD was in another field).

Hard to tell. I don’t know any of this year’s kids personally. But usually it is CS. Sometimes kids do mentorships with GMU faculty and stay. My understanding is that every class also has a few kids who need a commuter college for personal, medical or family reasons.

GMU is not a commuter school. It's the largest research university in Virginia and all freshman are required to live on campus unless they get a waiver. It has three campuses, 37,000 students and a new campus in Seoul, Korea. Its engineering, computer science and econ departments are especially strong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason_University

Oh FFS. Quit being so touchy. GMU is a great school. it is also a school kids can attend if they need to live at home for person, medical, family or financial reasons. Which was the context of the statement. If you are unable to leave NOVA for school for some option, then GMU is one of your few options logistically.

+1. And let’s face it, a lot of freshman get a waiver so they don’t have to live on campus. Not many other schools even offer a waiver. It is most definitely considered a commuter school around here.

Gosh, I guess i had better inform the international and OOS students in my DS's dorm at GMU. Please read before you insult the TJ students . . a lot has changed since you were in the 70s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason_University

For some reason you equate the words “commuter school” with inferiority? How is referring to it as that an insult? It simply means a lot of people who go there commute from home. Obviously, the out of state and internationals can’t commute, you f’ing moron.

And there certainly was no insult to TJ students in my repsonse. I stated a fact. GMU is considered a commuter school locally.

I’m a TJ parents and it isn’t an insult. It’s where kids who need or want to love at home during college go and, wait for it, commute from home.

Nobody thinks it is a commuter college from Korea. WTAF. But for kids who attend TJ— yes, they can commute. And some kids need to be able to live at home and commute to college. I’m not sure why PP is losing her shit. I’m sure Stanford is also a commuter college for some kids who live near it and want to save money.

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Anonymous wrote:To OP - I noticed the 75 to UVA and 32+ to Virginia Tech. That is an increase, isn't it? Isn't it usually 60 to UVA? This was a tough year for admission to Virginia Tech, so am curious if the TJ number is up. And I assume most of those are for engineering?

Last year’s list was

UVA 62
VT. 42
WM. 39
VCU. 10
GMU. 7

Given that some kids are missing, it looks like UVA is up, WM is down and VT, VCU, GMU basically held steady

Berkley was the big one left off the list. Pitt was way up. GA Tech was way up. This year had 2-3 more kids go to several of the Ivy’s (Harvard, Yale, etc.), Plus, a few more Duke and Chicago. A few fewer to Michigan. A few more to UI-CU.


Here is the 2017 list:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/649621.page

And yes, kids who go to VT usually do engineering. Some do other specialized programs, like architecture or their environmental sciences program.

Thank you. I don't have anyone at VT but have been watching the statistics change. So I'm right about a jump in UVA students - that comports with what I'm seeing across the board with VA schools - just a general increase in applications and rise in required stats to get in because the SLACs, LACs and private universities have price themselves out of affordability for most families.

The TJ students attending GMU major in engineering or computer science, right? I have a DC who recently graduated from there. I understand the engineering, computer and econ departments are strong (DD was in another field).

Hard to tell. I don’t know any of this year’s kids personally. But usually it is CS. Sometimes kids do mentorships with GMU faculty and stay. My understanding is that every class also has a few kids who need a commuter college for personal, medical or family reasons.

GMU is not a commuter school. It's the largest research university in Virginia and all freshman are required to live on campus unless they get a waiver. It has three campuses, 37,000 students and a new campus in Seoul, Korea. Its engineering, computer science and econ departments are especially strong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason_University

Oh FFS. Quit being so touchy. GMU is a great school. it is also a school kids can attend if they need to live at home for person, medical, family or financial reasons. Which was the context of the statement. If you are unable to leave NOVA for school for some option, then GMU is one of your few options logistically.

+1. And let’s face it, a lot of freshman get a waiver so they don’t have to live on campus. Not many other schools even offer a waiver. It is most definitely considered a commuter school around here.

Gosh, I guess i had better inform the international and OOS students in my DS's dorm at GMU. Please read before you insult the TJ students . . a lot has changed since you were in the 70s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason_University

For some reason you equate the words “commuter school” with inferiority? How is referring to it as that an insult? It simply means a lot of people who go there commute from home. Obviously, the out of state and internationals can’t commute, you f’ing moron.

And there certainly was no insult to TJ students in my repsonse. I stated a fact. GMU is considered a commuter school locally.

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Anonymous wrote:To OP - I noticed the 75 to UVA and 32+ to Virginia Tech. That is an increase, isn't it? Isn't it usually 60 to UVA? This was a tough year for admission to Virginia Tech, so am curious if the TJ number is up. And I assume most of those are for engineering?

Last year’s list was

UVA 62
VT. 42
WM. 39
VCU. 10
GMU. 7

Given that some kids are missing, it looks like UVA is up, WM is down and VT, VCU, GMU basically held steady

Berkley was the big one left off the list. Pitt was way up. GA Tech was way up. This year had 2-3 more kids go to several of the Ivy’s (Harvard, Yale, etc.), Plus, a few more Duke and Chicago. A few fewer to Michigan. A few more to UI-CU.


Here is the 2017 list:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/649621.page

And yes, kids who go to VT usually do engineering. Some do other specialized programs, like architecture or their environmental sciences program.

Thank you. I don't have anyone at VT but have been watching the statistics change. So I'm right about a jump in UVA students - that comports with what I'm seeing across the board with VA schools - just a general increase in applications and rise in required stats to get in because the SLACs, LACs and private universities have price themselves out of affordability for most families.

The TJ students attending GMU major in engineering or computer science, right? I have a DC who recently graduated from there. I understand the engineering, computer and econ departments are strong (DD was in another field).

Hard to tell. I don’t know any of this year’s kids personally. But usually it is CS. Sometimes kids do mentorships with GMU faculty and stay. My understanding is that every class also has a few kids who need a commuter college for personal, medical or family reasons.

GMU is not a commuter school. It's the largest research university in Virginia and all freshman are required to live on campus unless they get a waiver. It has three campuses, 37,000 students and a new campus in Seoul, Korea. Its engineering, computer science and econ departments are especially strong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason_University

Oh FFS. Quit being so touchy. GMU is a great school. it is also a school kids can attend if they need to live at home for person, medical, family or financial reasons. Which was the context of the statement. If you are unable to leave NOVA for school for some option, then GMU is one of your few options logistically.

+1. And let’s face it, a lot of freshman get a waiver so they don’t have to live on campus. Not many other schools even offer a waiver. It is most definitely considered a commuter school around here.

Gosh, I guess i had better inform the international and OOS students in my DS's dorm at GMU. Please read before you insult the TJ students . . a lot has changed since you were in the 70s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason_University

For some reason you equate the words “commuter school” with inferiority? How is referring to it as that an insult? It simply means a lot of people who go there commute from home. Obviously, the out of state and internationals can’t commute, you f’ing moron.

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Anonymous wrote:To OP - I noticed the 75 to UVA and 32+ to Virginia Tech. That is an increase, isn't it? Isn't it usually 60 to UVA? This was a tough year for admission to Virginia Tech, so am curious if the TJ number is up. And I assume most of those are for engineering?

Last year’s list was

UVA 62
VT. 42
WM. 39
VCU. 10
GMU. 7

Given that some kids are missing, it looks like UVA is up, WM is down and VT, VCU, GMU basically held steady

Berkley was the big one left off the list. Pitt was way up. GA Tech was way up. This year had 2-3 more kids go to several of the Ivy’s (Harvard, Yale, etc.), Plus, a few more Duke and Chicago. A few fewer to Michigan. A few more to UI-CU.


Here is the 2017 list:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/649621.page

And yes, kids who go to VT usually do engineering. Some do other specialized programs, like architecture or their environmental sciences program.

Thank you. I don't have anyone at VT but have been watching the statistics change. So I'm right about a jump in UVA students - that comports with what I'm seeing across the board with VA schools - just a general increase in applications and rise in required stats to get in because the SLACs, LACs and private universities have price themselves out of affordability for most families.

The TJ students attending GMU major in engineering or computer science, right? I have a DC who recently graduated from there. I understand the engineering, computer and econ departments are strong (DD was in another field).

Hard to tell. I don’t know any of this year’s kids personally. But usually it is CS. Sometimes kids do mentorships with GMU faculty and stay. My understanding is that every class also has a few kids who need a commuter college for personal, medical or family reasons.

GMU is not a commuter school. It's the largest research university in Virginia and all freshman are required to live on campus unless they get a waiver. It has three campuses, 37,000 students and a new campus in Seoul, Korea. Its engineering, computer science and econ departments are especially strong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason_University

Oh FFS. Quit being so touchy. GMU is a great school. it is also a school kids can attend if they need to live at home for person, medical, family or financial reasons. Which was the context of the statement. If you are unable to leave NOVA for school for some option, then GMU is one of your few options logistically.

+1. And let’s face it, a lot of freshman get a waiver so they don’t have to live on campus. Not many other schools even offer a waiver. It is most definitely considered a commuter school around here.

Gosh, I guess i had better inform the international and OOS students in my DS's dorm at GMU. Please read before you insult the TJ students . . a lot has changed since you were in the 70s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason_University

Some of the very best kids in the class going to UVA - smartest, kindest, multi-talented kids. UVA is lucky this year.

Here is the link to the actual TJ College Destinations list: https://imgur.com/a/ODuvQyA

Anonymous wrote:We need the Applied/Admitted/attending table for the entire student population to compare to prev. years and only then can we go "wow" or "meh". If the trend is "meh", I will advice my DC to move back to base (his call of course). DC1 is more the manager/lawyer type than a builder/researcher type anyways.. As is, DC2 will not even be taking the TJ test next year (DC2 is better than DC1 academically).

The trend is about the same - neither wow nor meh. What schools is your kid looking at?

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https://imgur.com/a/hEwf1rS

AKA, when the privileged and entitled ask for even more privileges and entitlements, so they can feel even more like special snowflakes.

Like asking to not have the kiss and ride doors locked until 8:50 instead of 8:40? Okay, then...

I tend to see it as, when you have kids and parents who sacrifice to be at a school, they take enormous ownership in the school, and believe it is their school and seek a collaborative relationship with the school. It’s why TJ alums donated well over $10 million dollars to the TJPF for the renovation, of which a significant portion is still left. Because the kids don’t view TJ as something they pass through on the way to their college. They are invested, and putting their money where there mouth is for years after the graduate. Also a huge alum network interviewing for internships and mentorship, and hiring TJ kids just out of college. You want to work for google or twitter? You can call the TJPF and get the TJ liaison for that company, who will got to bat for you.

The question is, why aren’t more FCPS schools working to make students their partners? Why aren’t more high schools harnessing their alums to give their students a hand?