Anonymous wrote:I’m able to SAH bc of it.

ditto. it's awesome.

Anonymous wrote:jennifer gates who is bill gates daughter is hot and rich. Sucks for her

For some reason this stuff fascinates me.

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Anonymous wrote:Very attractive. Helped me attract a high earner and I don’t have to work.

So your profession was to marry for money?

Honestly yes.

I’m able to SAH bc of it.

I'm always selected for training and marketing videos, which puts me in contact with the C-level execs and board. It helped me get me promotions. Being well spoken and attractive only gets the door opened a crack. To get invited in, you have to work really hard.

I'd agree that bombshell hot vs. pretty and put together are two separate things, but I also think a lot of that is packaging.

When I was 21-25, I worked in sales right out of college. I was young, quite pretty, but I am also black and quite curvaceous (not fat) and was working in B2B sales in the South. It was a very fine line (and one I learned QUICKLY) to keep my ask (for business) from turning into their -HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE- ask.

I dressed and carried myself at least 5 years older but because I'm short (5'2") I never gave up my stilettos, which I still love.

Currently I'm a 35 year old attorney. Mom of 2, not as hot, definitely not as fit, but I've learned how to project an aura of confidence and assurance that I cultivated while in sales. It helps. If I "turn on" as my family calls it, I can captivate a room (definitely a judge) for just long enough to get most of what I want, within reason!

Looks matter, but not as much as people think. Dress PROFESSIONALLY, be put together, but don't show off your assets and be good at your job. As the other women on this post stated, even those who are predisposed to like or dislike you based on your looks can be reprogrammed to respect you if you carry yourself "above" that.

Helps and hurts. I'm a pretty enough woman in a male-dominated field (cyber).

Pros: I can get my clients to tell me anything. People are interested in meeting me and it's easy to keep their attention. I get remembered. I can typically get favors and help when I need it. People will like me with absolutely no reason to do so.

Cons: Being married and pretty makes you respectable. Being single and pretty makes you a risk. I got divorced about a year ago, and I've definitely noticed that the travel has dried up. Especially when your boss is a single man who is trying to maintain the right optic. Even grown men think that a pretty, available woman can wreck everything. It's disappointing.

Anonymous wrote:I think it probably hurts me. I'm young (28) and look younger, and as an attorney I think I sometimes don't get the respect that my experience and ability deserve, especially from male OC.

This was my experience for many years. I'm not beautiful, but attractive and "cute". I'm also short - 5'1" - so I think many of my male colleagues looked at me like a daughter rather than a colleague. I'm older and less cute now.

I think there are different kinds of attractive and they matter here- think Jessica Alba or Kate Upton vs Kate Winslet or Grace Kelly/Audrey Hepburn. If you are more on the ‘hot’ end of the scale than on the ‘statuesque’ end of the scale, it can be more of a problem.

I think it also depends on office culture. I’m 28, considered attractive (not hot) and I’m in secondary market biglaw. I am very junior and work in a nerdier office and I think it hurts me. I started with another male associate who is more like the male partners and it’s clear many of them are more comfortable with him than me. I get left out of lunches and happy hours. It’s been frustrating, to say the least.

Also, when I started there was a clique of women who we’re definitely unfriendly. I basically Killed with kindness and let my work speak for itself so that any attempt to shit talk would be seen for what it was, and this strategy worked well. Most of these women have moved on from the firm anyway (natural career progression) and the remainders are nice now.

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tallchris66 wrote:Yes it helps me. I'm a tall male, built shoulders, thick back and chest, 6 pack, biceps with veins. Kahki's and polo is all I ever wear cause it's dress code so it's never really a secret. People never forget me cause I'm tall and fit (a rare combination for a family man who is almost 40). I also love working with challenging people. If I can get in front of a prospect I can usually close them.

You’ve described your muscularity and height, but you do realize that being tall and muscular doesn’t mean you aren’t ugly?

You're absolutely right, and that's something I've wondered about my whole life. My somewhat cloistered upbringing (homeschooled 1-12th) kept me from even being aware that women had an opinion on guys' looks for quite some time. I'm still not sure, but my wife assures me that my prominent brow, and strong nose and jaw IS attractive, but it could just be her. As long as she's on board then I'm cool. lol. The other day, one of my son's teachers told me that she thought I was the most attractive dad in the whole school (large public school). Sigh, so two women think I'm not ugly. At least the rest of the women out there if they don't agree are polite enough to keep their opinions to themselves.

Just from reading your posts, I know you have an ugly face and were probably a fat kid or nerd growing up. The way you catalog compliments and are hyper conscious of your every feature isn’t how someone who has been attractive all their life behaves. You’re insecure.

I was never fat, but maybe so.

tallchris66 wrote:Yes it helps me. I'm a tall male, built shoulders, thick back and chest, 6 pack, biceps with veins. Kahki's and polo is all I ever wear cause it's dress code so it's never really a secret. People never forget me cause I'm tall and fit (a rare combination for a family man who is almost 40). I also love working with challenging people. If I can get in front of a prospect I can usually close them.

If only you had more confidence.

Anonymous wrote:I have only met a handful of very attractive people in my life. Most are not as hot as you think.

However when younger I was very good looking. I goofed off in college and had a 2.5 GPA from a so so school.

I was in a management trading program on Wall Street and the less looking folks had like 3.9 gpas. But looks don't last forever.

With women it helps in marriage. I date a super beautiful girl when 21. Five foot nine blonde, 120 pounds movie star looks. The second she knew no ring was coming she married a rich doctor. She had a GED and lived at home. Ran into her 20 years later still and lived in a mansion and driving a new Range Rover.

It hurts girls in serious fields. But they marry the SVP anyhow.

Based on your writing, I have no trouble believing your post.

Best part about being good looking man at work when I was young and single was several things.

1) All my meeting requests with women were accepted
2) Company Picnics, xmas parties my photo always on line
3) Any new hot girl who started I immediately get did I hit that yet, same for any recently divorced women.
4) Always went to best happy hours. Always invited for drinks.

Downside - Older women and men in senior management hated me and it impeded career progress. However, since most HR girls are young and pretty girls I moved up a lot by simply job hopping.

Other downside is for women. I tried to hire this girl a few years ago in my dept that was 75% male. Very qualified but hot and a little chatty. The girls in HR and women head of HR "cock-blocked" it big time, Jealously or afraid of sexual harrassment lawsuits I dont know. I ended up with a pretty but very plain dressed soft spoken asian girl.

We all wanted the 26 years old blonde bombshell who had one extra button undone. My wife actually was pissed I could not hire her as HR was on top of me as she felt it was reverse discrimination. l