Anonymous
04/25/2018 14:54
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Ok well they certainly don’t have to let in 90 percent. And yes it’s us laughable because Beauvoir kids are bright and well prepared.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 14:49
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
The idea that St Albans or NCS would reject an entire Beauvoir class is laughable.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 14:42
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Oh this is so frustrating how do you keep on missing the point. No there’s Absolutely no quota that Saint Albans has to adhere to For Beauvoir kids. That means, that if Saint Albans or NCS thinks the whole entire class is unqualified it can fail to admit them. This, last year not nearly as many kids from Beauvoir got in. The only advantage that Beauvoir kids get is that they apply early and the admissions team at Saint Albans determines early on whether or not the Beauvoir kids should get admitted. So yes that means that there are a number of non Beauvoir kids who won’t get in fourth because Beauvoir kids have the benefit of early admissions. Make no mistake, Beauvoir kids are not clogging up saint Albans. They’re there because they deserve to be there.
You are smoking something from the Bishop’s Garden if you think STA/NCS could get away with admitting no Beauvoir students. As PPs have said, there is an expectation and woe to the AD who messes with those parents/donors. This is part time of what BVR parents pay for. Better “qualified” third graders are rehected every year in favor BVR qualified kids.
This assumes that Beauvoir kids are not qualified. That simply is not true and you certainly are not in a place to determine that. You don’t know what other qualities candidates possess. As has been stated many times before, this third-grade class is particularly bright. There are times Sta and ncs would like to take the whole entire class but feel the need to take a few non Beauvoir kids .
Anonymous
04/25/2018 14:04
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:The poor ad from Beauvoir got sent packing when last year’s crop didn’t all get in STA. Perhaps she was actually being honest and encouraging kids to go to the correct school for where they were devopmentally so they would flourish? Perhaps STA actually tried for a year to actually look around for candidates? The uproar was too strong to overcome for the future. Sad because it had looked like a positive
Change.
Did you go through outplacement last year and deal directly with the outplacement director? I'm guessing no as there is no way you would have this opinion if you had. Sure, there may have been some students whose parents were unwilling to accept that their child was not a good fit for the cathedral schools but I am certain she did not tell them this, nor do I believe she offered any suggestions. I went through the process last year and had the good fortune of going through the process with her predecessor. It was unacceptable. I don't blame her I blame the person who gave her the job.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 13:44
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote: Oh this is so frustrating how do you keep on missing the point. No there’s Absolutely no quota that Saint Albans has to adhere to For Beauvoir kids. That means, that if Saint Albans or NCS thinks the whole entire class is unqualified it can fail to admit them. This, last year not nearly as many kids from Beauvoir got in. The only advantage that Beauvoir kids get is that they apply early and the admissions team at Saint Albans determines early on whether or not the Beauvoir kids should get admitted. So yes that means that there are a number of non Beauvoir kids who won’t get in fourth because Beauvoir kids have the benefit of early admissions. Make no mistake, Beauvoir kids are not clogging up saint Albans. They’re there because they deserve to be there.
You are smoking something from the Bishop’s Garden if you think STA/NCS could get away with admitting no Beauvoir students. As PPs have said, there is an expectation and woe to the AD who messes with those parents/donors. This is part time of what BVR parents pay for. Better “qualified” third graders are rehected every year in favor BVR qualified kids.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 12:35
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The point is they get priority over students with better scores. But hey, that's STA's problem if it wants to accept mediocre students. Don't have any stake in it. Just pointing out facts.
I’m sorry if your child did not get admitted to the school of your choice. I can say schools can usually pick up on parents that might be problems in the future and your issue may have been more of a parenting vibe than about a Beauvoir kid taking your spot.
Lol a parent issue? The only parent issue they care about is can you paid.
No I think an overtly problem parent could tip the scales against your favor.
Meant this As a general sense in applying to any school.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 12:26
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The point is they get priority over students with better scores. But hey, that's STA's problem if it wants to accept mediocre students. Don't have any stake in it. Just pointing out facts.
I’m sorry if your child did not get admitted to the school of your choice. I can say schools can usually pick up on parents that might be problems in the future and your issue may have been more of a parenting vibe than about a Beauvoir kid taking your spot.
Lol a parent issue? The only parent issue they care about is can you paid.
No I think an overtly problem parent could tip the scales against your favor.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 12:10
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The point is they get priority over students with better scores. But hey, that's STA's problem if it wants to accept mediocre students. Don't have any stake in it. Just pointing out facts.
I’m sorry if your child did not get admitted to the school of your choice. I can say schools can usually pick up on parents that might be problems in the future and your issue may have been more of a parenting vibe than about a Beauvoir kid taking your spot.
Lol a parent issue? The only parent issue they care about is can you paid.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 11:58
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:The poor ad from Beauvoir got sent packing when last year’s crop didn’t all get in STA. Perhaps she was actually being honest and encouraging kids to go to the correct school for where they were devopmentally so they would flourish? Perhaps STA actually tried for a year to actually look around for candidates? The uproar was too strong to overcome for the future. Sad because it had looked like a positive
Change.
You know what they say about last year? It happened last year. It was an off year, within off class, and an outplacement director that had no experience in the position whatsoever. She should’ve never been put in that position to begin with. All schools I think I’m entitled to have one off here. I’d say in 40 years of history they’ve done quite well for themselves. My advice to you is to move on and let it go and you can always reapply in the future. Although Based on your nasty posts, I suspect that your application Had some other issues than beauvoir students taking your spot.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 11:57
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Come on do you know how many academically qualities kids
Do not get into STA for fourth? It is because Beauvoir clogs it up. Sad that STA got bullied into not taking in more outsiders. It is like a club that starts at nursery and you have no hope getting into unless you are hooked.
You sound bitter. The Beauvoir kids also have academically gifted students and they get a priority because they’re part of the cathedral family. It is a feeder but it’s not an automatic admission. Beauvoir, NCS, and STA are a family of schools and have many inter-school events and chapel services and crossover.
That just proves the point of the pp. How is it amazing to get into the next stage school? STA has to accept even the less than average kids.
Sure - but so what? It's no different than a school like GDS or Sidwell. Are they booting kids at middle school and upper school to replace them with 'better' kids? No, they stick with the kids they have. STA and NCS have a relationship with Beauvoir that is much more akin to a single integrated school than an separate upper school. They are nominally separate but are linked in many ways. It's silly to think otherwise.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 11:53
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My assessment: it doesn't necessarily look like a redemption from last year's results. I know some on this board had said this class would be different.
Glad to hear that there seem to be stronger results to STA and NCS this year as a majority of parents enter Beauvoir with that intention. (Not all, but definitely a majority.)
Generally speaking, moving to St. Pat's, NPS, Lowell, and Grace Episcopal are not usually the ideal trajectory simply because you have to apply once again in a few years. Mater Dei may be the desire for a Catholic education and/or closer to home. McLean is also a specialized school and Berkeley is an out-of-town move, so not reading into those.
It's the number of k-6, k-8 choices that is surprising. All schools are fine, but if you want that route, you typically start at one of those schools in the first place. Typically people don't go to BVR with the intention of then switching to a k-6 or k-8. Again, trying to be objective here. Not sure what of this, really.
+1000
90% of kids going to STA and NCS is amazing. That is pretty much the entire 4th grade class at each. There is nothing negative about these results. Amazing results. The few students that didn't get their first choice often want coed over single sex and Maret is often their first choice and they just don't have the slots available. Their entire class of third grade is 28 students.
It's 90 percent of those who applied, not 90 percent of the class. Not all of the class applied to NCS/STA.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 11:52
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
The poor ad from Beauvoir got sent packing when last year’s crop didn’t all get in STA. Perhaps she was actually being honest and encouraging kids to go to the correct school for where they were devopmentally so they would flourish? Perhaps STA actually tried for a year to actually look around for candidates? The uproar was too strong to overcome for the future. Sad because it had looked like a positive
Change.
Change.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 11:49
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:The point is they get priority over students with better scores. But hey, that's STA's problem if it wants to accept mediocre students. Don't have any stake in it. Just pointing out facts.
I’m sorry if your child did not get admitted to the school of your choice. I can say schools can usually pick up on parents that might be problems in the future and your issue may have been more of a parenting vibe than about a Beauvoir kid taking your spot.
Anonymous
04/25/2018 11:40
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
Anonymous wrote:But hey, that's STA's problem if it wants to accept mediocre students. Don't have any stake in it. Just pointing out facts.
It's actually not a fact, when there's way more to being a good "student" than test scores. How about grades, extracurriculars, athletics, and overall behavior?
Anonymous
04/25/2018 11:33
Subject: Beauvoir Outplacment Results
The point is they get priority over students with better scores. But hey, that's STA's problem if it wants to accept mediocre students. Don't have any stake in it. Just pointing out facts.