Anonymous wrote:Maybe they tried to reduce admits for kids who are indifferent to VA Tech and using it as a safety.

This makes some sense. There are too many people posting for this to be the typical College Confidential exaggeration.

Interest was never part of their game, but maybe it is now.

Maybe they tried to reduce admits for kids who are indifferent to VA Tech and using it as a safety.

Wow. Read the caliber of both the kids getting in and those waitlisted or denied. Pages 27-40 here. It's amazing - as in kids with very high GPAs and scores getting turned down. https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/virginia-tech/2048435-virginia-tech-regular-decision-thread-p38.html

I suspect VT is playing with their GPA data the way many colleges do on the common data set. There is no standardization, so they can weight and recalculate and report whatever they choose.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard of any school having such a big change?

It'll be interesting to see how big their waitlist is. Interesting to see if they reject the tippy top kids assuming it's a safety for them. Interesting if showing interest has become a major factor.

That's exactly what my Dh and I were discussing last night--maybe our more "mediocre" kid actually has a better chance of acceptance than a kid that's already HYPSM bound.

I don't know what you think "Mediocre" is, but I've found the SCHEVE statistics to be very helpful. Go here and plug in Virginia Tech and you will get the GPA for students who actually enrolled in 2017-2018 (and SAT scores). For the 6393 enrolled students, 25th percentile had a 4.21 or better; the median was 4.00; and the lowest 25th percentile was 3.78. Good luck! http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

These stats are weird. Why such low SAT/ACT scores with such high GPAs. Something is off.

Schreve doesn't report ACT scores for Virginia Tech. Are you on the right entry? type in Virginia Tech and be sure to hit "enter".

NP. They don't appear to report ACT scores for Virginia Tech. Interesting to see that the 75th percentile SAT last year was 1280.....

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard of any school having such a big change?

It'll be interesting to see how big their waitlist is. Interesting to see if they reject the tippy top kids assuming it's a safety for them. Interesting if showing interest has become a major factor.

That's exactly what my Dh and I were discussing last night--maybe our more "mediocre" kid actually has a better chance of acceptance than a kid that's already HYPSM bound.

I don't know what you think "Mediocre" is, but I've found the SCHEVE statistics to be very helpful. Go here and plug in Virginia Tech and you will get the GPA for students who actually enrolled in 2017-2018 (and SAT scores). For the 6393 enrolled students, 25th percentile had a 4.21 or better; the median was 4.00; and the lowest 25th percentile was 3.78. Good luck! http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Thanks But everyone is saying that it is much more competitive this year--that in previous years 70+% got accepted, and this year it's 56%. So I'm thinking the 2017-18 stats won't necessarily reflect this years acceptances.

The decrease in acceptance rate tells us nothing about the caliber of students. It does let us know the number of kids rejected went up. If a school is only accepting 70 kids and 100 apply that’s 70% acceptance rate. If 140 apply that’s a 50% acceptance rate. Either case the 70 “best” kids were accepted.

No, we don't know if they rejected more. We only know that they have admitted fewer as of right now. There could be thousands and thousands on the waitlist. They could be gaming the numbers to look more selective.

Parents and students are reporting their results here starting around page 27: https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/virginia-tech/2048435-virginia-tech-regular-decision-thread-p27.html

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard of any school having such a big change?

It'll be interesting to see how big their waitlist is. Interesting to see if they reject the tippy top kids assuming it's a safety for them. Interesting if showing interest has become a major factor.

That's exactly what my Dh and I were discussing last night--maybe our more "mediocre" kid actually has a better chance of acceptance than a kid that's already HYPSM bound.

I don't know what you think "Mediocre" is, but I've found the SCHEVE statistics to be very helpful. Go here and plug in Virginia Tech and you will get the GPA for students who actually enrolled in 2017-2018 (and SAT scores). For the 6393 enrolled students, 25th percentile had a 4.21 or better; the median was 4.00; and the lowest 25th percentile was 3.78. Good luck! http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

These stats are weird. Why such low SAT/ACT scores with such high GPAs. Something is off.

Schreve doesn't report ACT scores for Virginia Tech. Are you on the right entry? type in Virginia Tech and be sure to hit "enter".

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard of any school having such a big change?

It'll be interesting to see how big their waitlist is. Interesting to see if they reject the tippy top kids assuming it's a safety for them. Interesting if showing interest has become a major factor.

That's exactly what my Dh and I were discussing last night--maybe our more "mediocre" kid actually has a better chance of acceptance than a kid that's already HYPSM bound.

I don't know what you think "Mediocre" is, but I've found the SCHEVE statistics to be very helpful. Go here and plug in Virginia Tech and you will get the GPA for students who actually enrolled in 2017-2018 (and SAT scores). For the 6393 enrolled students, 25th percentile had a 4.21 or better; the median was 4.00; and the lowest 25th percentile was 3.78. Good luck! http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Thanks But everyone is saying that it is much more competitive this year--that in previous years 70+% got accepted, and this year it's 56%. So I'm thinking the 2017-18 stats won't necessarily reflect this years acceptances.

The decrease in acceptance rate tells us nothing about the caliber of students. It does let us know the number of kids rejected went up. If a school is only accepting 70 kids and 100 apply that’s 70% acceptance rate. If 140 apply that’s a 50% acceptance rate. Either case the 70 “best” kids were accepted.

I accessed the VT results at 4pm.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard of any school having such a big change?

It'll be interesting to see how big their waitlist is. Interesting to see if they reject the tippy top kids assuming it's a safety for them. Interesting if showing interest has become a major factor.

That's exactly what my Dh and I were discussing last night--maybe our more "mediocre" kid actually has a better chance of acceptance than a kid that's already HYPSM bound.

I don't know what you think "Mediocre" is, but I've found the SCHEVE statistics to be very helpful. Go here and plug in Virginia Tech and you will get the GPA for students who actually enrolled in 2017-2018 (and SAT scores). For the 6393 enrolled students, 25th percentile had a 4.21 or better; the median was 4.00; and the lowest 25th percentile was 3.78. Good luck! http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

PP you quoted here.

Thanks But everyone is saying that it is much more competitive this year--that in previous years 70+% got accepted, and this year it's 56%. So I'm thinking the 2017-18 stats won't necessarily reflect this years acceptances.

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Anonymous wrote:This is happening at every school. As admissions get tougher across the board, kids are applying to more schools and schools are saying no to more kids.

It can't quite be so simple. There are only so many kids (and that's actually decreasing) and there are a certain amount of spots. In the end, each kid goes to one spot. VT can't just get more selective, or more kids will turn them down. Their place in the heirarchy is unchanged. What is true is that things are more random, but not clearly more selective.

Colleges don’t know what other colleges a kid applies to. Some kids with great applications may get accepted everywhere, knocking regular kids out of the running.

but they know their histories, and they know kids are applying to more schools than they used to. They know that kids with near perfect records turn them down most of the time, and they know kids at their 25%ile accept them most of the time. If the regular kids get knocked out of the running, schools like VT would end up under-enrolled when the top kids choose elsewhere. They are more sophisticated than that.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard of any school having such a big change?

It'll be interesting to see how big their waitlist is. Interesting to see if they reject the tippy top kids assuming it's a safety for them. Interesting if showing interest has become a major factor.

That's exactly what my Dh and I were discussing last night--maybe our more "mediocre" kid actually has a better chance of acceptance than a kid that's already HYPSM bound.

I don't know what you think "Mediocre" is, but I've found the SCHEVE statistics to be very helpful. Go here and plug in Virginia Tech and you will get the GPA for students who actually enrolled in 2017-2018 (and SAT scores). For the 6393 enrolled students, 25th percentile had a 4.21 or better; the median was 4.00; and the lowest 25th percentile was 3.78. Good luck! http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

Anyone aware of a similar website for MD schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone heard of any school having such a big change?

It'll be interesting to see how big their waitlist is. Interesting to see if they reject the tippy top kids assuming it's a safety for them. Interesting if showing interest has become a major factor.

That's exactly what my Dh and I were discussing last night--maybe our more "mediocre" kid actually has a better chance of acceptance than a kid that's already HYPSM bound.

I don't know what you think "Mediocre" is, but I've found the SCHEVE statistics to be very helpful. Go here and plug in Virginia Tech and you will get the GPA for students who actually enrolled in 2017-2018 (and SAT scores). For the 6393 enrolled students, 25th percentile had a 4.21 or better; the median was 4.00; and the lowest 25th percentile was 3.78. Good luck! http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

These stats are weird. Why such low SAT/ACT scores with such high GPAs. Something is off.

GPA doesn't take course rigor into consideration for one thing.

Also, a 1450 SAT (for instance) is in the 96th percentile. There are not that many students who get that kind of a score on the SAT. Our campuses would be mighty empty if only the 1400+ scorers got to go to college.