Anonymous
Post 03/01/2018 11:30     Subject: Re:Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
If a school has a capacity of 545 but only has 350-400 students enrolled, does APS still provide all of the same specials and support? Are there any benefits that come from being over capacity?
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2018 11:06     Subject: Re:Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
*impacted*
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2018 11:03     Subject: Re:Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Anonymous wrote:
You don't even understand how much overcrowding we have had in NW Arlington Elementary Schools. It is our turn to have breathing room for a few years while they build housing on Lee Highway and EFC. It is okay for Tuckahoe, Nottingham. McKinley and Reed to be under-enrolled for 5-10 years. These kids have been through so much and just look what will happen once they go to middle school. Swanson is like a Zoo. Don't send kids from across the county here it just wouldn't be fair to Tuckahoe.


Are you writing this with a straight face, or are you trying to make Tuckahoe look bad? Our kids are at McKinley, and we hate the overcrowding and know that we got screwed in the last boundary adjustment, but I'd never claim that means we should sit way far below capacity for 5-10 years when other schools are still vastly overcrowded. Get us to 95-105% would be ideal, but asking to consciously let a school sit way under enrolled counting on potential future real estate development that has been in discussion for years but hasn't happened when we know where kids now need seats? Get real. It's about balancing, say it with me now.

The crazy plans that you've sent out advocating for your families to make walkable units that would have to cross both Sycamore and Lee Highway are just that. Crazy. Units that are safely walkable to other schools will never validly be walkable across major multi-lane roads. Take APS staff out for that walk and see what they have to say about just how safe that would be. Some of those same units were pushing hard to be zoned to Swanson so that they could use the trail. Now you think they'd rather cross multiple arteries rather than use the trail to get to Reed or McKinley? Come on.

Finally, the kids you are referencing won't even be impacting except for current K and 1st graders, who weren't at Tuckahoe back when it was vastly overcrowded. So no current Tuckahoe child will have had to experience both the horrendous overcrowding that was there in the past and also be at Swanson or Williamsburg in a vastly overcrowded state. Not one.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2018 11:01     Subject: Re:Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:White snowflakes to their battle stations.


My sides are hurting...


You don't even understand how much overcrowding we have had in NW Arlington Elementary Schools. It is our turn to have breathing room for a few years while they build housing on Lee Highway and EFC. It is okay for Tuckahoe, Nottingham. McKinley and Reed to be under-enrolled for 5-10 years. These kids have been through so much and just look what will happen once they go to middle school. Swanson is like a Zoo. Don't send kids from across the county here it just wouldn't be fair to Tuckahoe.


Oh no no no- don't try to hide behind McKinley and Reed. The Tuckahoe and Nottingham crew had *no problem* throwing Westover under the bus in 2014. Our kids are going to be overcrowded in an 800+ student school from 2015-2021 until Reed opens. That's an entire generation of Tuckahoe, Nottingham, Discovery, and Jamestown kids who got to enjoy a student body under 600 students with plenty of open green space for five years while our McK kids were packed in like sardines waiting for Reed to open. We're not helping you keep your school building Tuckahoe- you fight your own battle with your misguided math. But we'll be MORE THAN HAPPY to welcome the remnants of the Tuckahoe student body into McKinley in 2021-- lucky for you, we've already had a lot of practice!
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2018 10:31     Subject: Re:Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:White snowflakes to their battle stations.


My sides are hurting...


You don't even understand how much overcrowding we have had in NW Arlington Elementary Schools. It is our turn to have breathing room for a few years while they build housing on Lee Highway and EFC. It is okay for Tuckahoe, Nottingham. McKinley and Reed to be under-enrolled for 5-10 years. These kids have been through so much and just look what will happen once they go to middle school. Swanson is like a Zoo. Don't send kids from across the county here it just wouldn't be fair to Tuckahoe.
Hahaha. OMG. It's almost sad how pathetic the Tuckahoe people are.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2018 10:18     Subject: Re:Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:White snowflakes to their battle stations.


My sides are hurting...


You don't even understand how much overcrowding we have had in NW Arlington Elementary Schools. It is our turn to have breathing room for a few years while they build housing on Lee Highway and EFC. It is okay for Tuckahoe, Nottingham. McKinley and Reed to be under-enrolled for 5-10 years. These kids have been through so much and just look what will happen once they go to middle school. Swanson is like a Zoo. Don't send kids from across the county here it just wouldn't be fair to Tuckahoe.
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2018 09:45     Subject: Re:Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Anonymous wrote:White snowflakes to their battle stations.


My sides are hurting...
Anonymous
Post 03/01/2018 06:10     Subject: Re:Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this is a start, but I don't think you can just leave roughly 80 kids out there without figuring out where they'd go and call that a viable solution. 59 of those kids live in a single planning unit (16020), that's not a number you just squeeze in someplace.


The actual refining process happens this fall. Everyone will know at the same time where they will end up.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2018 22:49     Subject: Re:Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this is a start, but I don't think you can just leave roughly 80 kids out there without figuring out where they'd go and call that a viable solution. 59 of those kids live in a single planning unit (16020), that's not a number you just squeeze in someplace.


Send them to Barcroft.


Fix the calendar first.


McK took that many and then some.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2018 22:37     Subject: Re:Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this is a start, but I don't think you can just leave roughly 80 kids out there without figuring out where they'd go and call that a viable solution. 59 of those kids live in a single planning unit (16020), that's not a number you just squeeze in someplace.


Send them to Barcroft.


Fix the calendar first.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2018 21:28     Subject: Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Anonymous wrote:Meh to the second half of that letter. But they raise a bunch of good points about the process. Seems destined for trouble to pick new location and then decide later what to move there. Is that to give the option schools time to get their shirts picked out?


No. This is again Tuckahoe grasping at straws since they are very concerned that the data may show they can’t readily be filled once they shed hundreds of kids to Reed except by taking kids who currently walk elsewhere. I think it’s to determine where the county as a whole needs capacity and where as a whole it may have excess capacity. It may turn out that nothing needs the move, or maybe just the much discussed Key-ASFS switch, then again maybe not.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2018 21:26     Subject: Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My favorite part of the letter is how they talk about developments completed in 2005, 2006, and 2010 as having an effect on the future. Seriously? I live in the Key zone. Do you know how long a list of new developments since 2005 would be?


Yeah, I actually laughed at that.


This cracked me up. The other thing that makes me laugh is the talk about traffic. it is everywhere, but people in that area think they are the only ones who have it and their's is the most important. Even a simple change in a building along Lee Highway results in the ,"Oh, this is going to be a nightmare." Listen, folks, the Lee Highway Alliance has been pushing to redevelop for a few year and some of it will happen. The EFC changes have been talked about longer than I can remember, but it just doesn't happen. I feel for the people who are scared of losing their school, but these arguments are flimsy.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2018 21:23     Subject: Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Meh to the second half of that letter. But they raise a bunch of good points about the process. Seems destined for trouble to pick new location and then decide later what to move there. Is that to give the option schools time to get their shirts picked out?
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2018 20:27     Subject: Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
Anonymous wrote:My favorite part of the letter is how they talk about developments completed in 2005, 2006, and 2010 as having an effect on the future. Seriously? I live in the Key zone. Do you know how long a list of new developments since 2005 would be?


Yeah, I actually laughed at that.
Anonymous
Post 02/28/2018 20:24     Subject: Tuckahoe by the numbers - how can it stay a neighborhood school?
My favorite part of the letter is how they talk about developments completed in 2005, 2006, and 2010 as having an effect on the future. Seriously? I live in the Key zone. Do you know how long a list of new developments since 2005 would be?