Anonymous
03/08/2018 08:24
Subject: s/o If my child is half-Asian with an anglicized last name, should we only check the white box for r
Anonymous wrote:Great! Welcome to the African-American race! Let's see how that works out for you in every other aspect of life.
Oh! So you were just thinking that you could choose to be black when it is an advantage and revert back to white in all other aspects? Is that how it works?! Thanks so much for this info!
From now on, I'll just go ahead and check the White/Caucasian box when I am applying for jobs, when I'm submitting a loan application, when I am applying for country club memberships, when I am traveling to other (racist) countries, when I am signing my children up for school, when I am applying for a mortgage -- basically, when I am doing anything other than applying for one of the few slots that colleges allow African-American students to fill (not as many as you think!).
How do you all think that will work out for me?
Ethical egoism.
Don't know. Give it a shot. In the meantime, I will continue to advocate for everyone to be as oblique as possible or pick the choice that they can get away with as far as race goes in all circumstances. It's voluntary info typically and not exactly perjury. Hell, we have liars in congress and the WH. Why not emulate them?
Anonymous
03/08/2018 01:01
Subject: s/o If my child is half-Asian with an anglicized last name, should we only check the white box for r
Not the PP, but do you really think that people are NOT discriminating against people who check a box other than "White?"
Anonymous
03/06/2018 16:31
Subject: s/o If my child is half-Asian with an anglicized last name, should we only check the white box for r
Anonymous wrote:
Oh! So you were just thinking that you could choose to be black when it is an advantage and revert back to white in all other aspects? Is that how it works?! Thanks so much for this info!
From now on, I'll just go ahead and check the White/Caucasian box when I am applying for jobs, when I'm submitting a loan application, when I am applying for country club memberships, when I am traveling to other (racist) countries, when I am signing my children up for school, when I am applying for a mortgage -- basically, when I am doing anything other than applying for one of the few slots that colleges allow African-American students to fill (not as many as you think!).
I don't recall the need to check any box when applying for a job or loan or anything not associated with the government at various levels. Do you really think that people are discriminating against you based on you checking a box?
Sorry, I don't think my race, whether I identify it or other do, defines who I am. I just wish there was a box that was labelled "You can just stuff it for asking me this question."
Anonymous
03/06/2018 14:01
Subject: s/o If my child is half-Asian with an anglicized last name, should we only check the white box for r
Great! Welcome to the African-American race! Let's see how that works out for you in every other aspect of life.
Oh! So you were just thinking that you could choose to be black when it is an advantage and revert back to white in all other aspects? Is that how it works?! Thanks so much for this info!
From now on, I'll just go ahead and check the White/Caucasian box when I am applying for jobs, when I'm submitting a loan application, when I am applying for country club memberships, when I am traveling to other (racist) countries, when I am signing my children up for school, when I am applying for a mortgage -- basically, when I am doing anything other than applying for one of the few slots that colleges allow African-American students to fill (not as many as you think!).
How do you all think that will work out for me?
Ethical egoism.
Oh! So you were just thinking that you could choose to be black when it is an advantage and revert back to white in all other aspects? Is that how it works?! Thanks so much for this info!
From now on, I'll just go ahead and check the White/Caucasian box when I am applying for jobs, when I'm submitting a loan application, when I am applying for country club memberships, when I am traveling to other (racist) countries, when I am signing my children up for school, when I am applying for a mortgage -- basically, when I am doing anything other than applying for one of the few slots that colleges allow African-American students to fill (not as many as you think!).
How do you all think that will work out for me?
Ethical egoism.
Anonymous
03/06/2018 13:24
Subject: Re:s/o If my child is half-Asian with an anglicized last name, should we only check the white box for r
Anonymous wrote:One reason that colleges ask this is because some people want to attend a diverse university. I know my kid "of color" wants to be sure he is not the only non-white kid on campus. So if they are going to report it, they have to measure it.
They can always ask that info. AFTER the kids get in and provide that to potential candidates..
Anonymous
03/06/2018 11:38
Subject: s/o If my child is half-Asian with an anglicized last name, should we only check the white box for r
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The kid is half white and half Asian. Some of those forms force you to choose so having to choose doesn't imply shame. It would be a lie too under your definition to check the Asian box. Would that imply shame about the white side???? The whole thing is ridiculous that people are judged by the top layer of skin. The above comment implies on it's own an assumption of hiding shame as an Asian. Our kid had such a mixed background he threw his hands up and checked the Undeclared box. That likely was worse then any of the otherchoices
What form? Neither the Census (since 2000) nor the Common App or the Coalition App require a single race response. There is no forced single-choice answer. They specifically invite multiple responses. Choosing to only check white is what someone who is ashamed of their non-white heritage would do. That's what is sad.
The question about race on the Common Application is straightforward:
Regardless of your answer to the prior question [about Hispanic/Latino], please indicate how you identify yourself (Check one or more and describe your background).
American Indian or Alaska Native (including all Original Peoples of the Americas) Are you Enrolled? p Yes p No If yes, please enter Tribal Enrollment Number________________
Asian (including Indian subcontinent and Philippines)
Black or African American (including Africa and Caribbean)
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander (Original Peoples)
White (including Middle Eastern)
School specific apps. On common app, he was checking 4. Our family was diverse and open-minded before it was PC.
Anonymous
03/06/2018 11:17
Subject: Re:s/o If my child is half-Asian with an anglicized last name, should we only check the white box for r
PP: "we as a family have to make our own rules (a.k.a. bend the rules a little bit). "
What could possibly go wrong here? People "bending the rules" so they benefit. I wish people would teach their children ethics and pro-social values, instead. Remember that when these kids have the college gig behind them, they are going to populate society.
What could possibly go wrong here? People "bending the rules" so they benefit. I wish people would teach their children ethics and pro-social values, instead. Remember that when these kids have the college gig behind them, they are going to populate society.
Anonymous
03/06/2018 11:12
Subject: Re:s/o If my child is half-Asian with an anglicized last name, should we only check the white box for r
One reason that colleges ask this is because some people want to attend a diverse university. I know my kid "of color" wants to be sure he is not the only non-white kid on campus. So if they are going to report it, they have to measure it.
Anonymous
03/05/2018 21:10
Subject: Re:s/o If my child is half-Asian with an anglicized last name, should we only check the white box for r
Well, the Nazis were certainly interested in knowing everyone's race, religion, and sexual preference. They probably viewed it as immoral when you didn't answer their questions as well.