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Anonymous wrote:How do all the defenders of American formula know it was shipped, stored or not counterfeit? Also how many American formulas are actually made in the US?

I used HIPP for both my kids after I stopped nursing and it is without doubt superior.

When my babies were born, they got Similac RTF while breastfeeding was established. After they started solids, they got an occasional bottle of Baby's Only. Was it better than Similac? It smelled better, but that doesn't mean that the Similac wasn't good. "Without a doubt superior"? Nope.

How do you know your European formula was stored or not counterfeit? Are you certain your European formula was actually made in Europe? Did you buy it at the factory? You do know that Chinese factories can also counterfeit European formula too, right?

That is true of American formulas as well.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Baby's Only formula? I haven't been in the game for a couple of years --- but I recall it is better than the rest of the US brands.

It’s for toddlers

It's for infants. Also for toddlers, if you don't want to give them cow milk.

Actually my pediatrician looked at the amounts of calcium and phosphous and said it was TOO high for an infant. It's not great for infants.

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Anonymous wrote:All joking and defensiveness aside - yes, European formulas are superior. My older son was put on Nutramigen and no food-product on earth ever smelled worse. It was expensive and all cornstarch based. With my second child, I sis a lot of research and found that Holle and HIPP are far superior to anything made in the US.

Dude. Nutramigen is a hypoallergenic formula for children with milk allergies. Totally different from milk formulas (European AND American).

HIPP is hypoallergenic and doesn't stink or taste horrid.

For someone who is purporting to give advice on "superior" formulas, you don't seem to have a basic understanding of formula.

Nutramigen is a hypoallergenic formula made for children with cow-milk protein allergies. "Hypoallergenic" formula either has the cow proteins extensively broken down ("Hydrolyzed"), like Nutramigen. For more severe allergies, there's formula that's made out of amino acids, with no cow milk proteins at all.

HIPP appears to market an extensively hydrolyzed hypoallergenic formula similar to Nutramigen. This is different from "regular" HIPP and probably smells just like Nutramigen.

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Anonymous wrote:How do all the defenders of American formula know it was shipped, stored or not counterfeit? Also how many American formulas are actually made in the US?

I used HIPP for both my kids after I stopped nursing and it is without doubt superior.

When my babies were born, they got Similac RTF while breastfeeding was established. After they started solids, they got an occasional bottle of Baby's Only. Was it better than Similac? It smelled better, but that doesn't mean that the Similac wasn't good. "Without a doubt superior"? Nope.

How do you know your European formula was stored or not counterfeit? Are you certain your European formula was actually made in Europe? Did you buy it at the factory? You do know that Chinese factories can also counterfeit European formula too, right?

The European formulas may well be "superior" but the question is are they superior enough to justify the added expense and effort needed to get them? Are they superior enough to actually make a difference in a child's health? A difference in a child's development? A difference in a child's intelligence? The difference in these outcomes between breastfed and formula fed babies aren't significant enough to make a long term impact on a child, do you really believe the differences between babies fed European formulas and American formulas will be? I don't so I was very comfortable feeding my child an American formula (a generic one at that!) when the time came.

Then again, I don't believe that cost and effort spent on getting formula is a proxy variable for how much I love my child and some people on this board very clearly do. The same way some people believe the effort spent making breastfeeding work is a proxy variable for love. I don't love my child less because I didn't exclusively breastfeed until 12 months old and I don't love my child less because I gave her formula from Costco. If my child doesn't get into Harvard, it won't be because of the formula.

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Anonymous wrote:What about Baby's Only formula? I haven't been in the game for a couple of years --- but I recall it is better than the rest of the US brands.

It’s for toddlers

I used it from 6 months to a year, when I switched to cow's milk. I liked it.

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Anonymous wrote:We use Lebenswert and it is superior when it comes to the ingredients. Americans formula often has corn syrup as the first ( and main) ingredient. That’s a total red flag. Then you have synthetic sugars, preservatives, and vitamins added into it. I didn’t want to feed my child that stuff. We go through a U.S. While it’s a little more experience ( formula feeding is in general), is an investment in his health. Adults wouldn’t regularly eat that stuff so why feed it to a new baby? All to save a couple of bucks. Not to mention those formula cans often still contain BPA. Europe has stricter FDA standards. Look at the whole Johnson and Johnson’s baby wash scandal. The product contained carcinogens, causing Europe and Japan to ban the products, while still the U.S. continued to sell the products. Im not saying all U.S. products are bad, but I do believe American formula is not as healthy as the European brands.

Gosh, it's hard to take you seriously when you write this.

https://abbottnutrition.com/similac-pro-advance

https://organicstart.com/lebenswert/stage-1/info

Second poster is totally right. There is no corn syrup in similac. And the European stuff does have added vitamins, sugars and preservatives.

I'm a child of the 70s and was US formula fed -- i'm healthy. Both of my babies are also US formula-fed babies -- healthy too.

Anonymous wrote:How do all the defenders of American formula know it was shipped, stored or not counterfeit? Also how many American formulas are actually made in the US?

I used HIPP for both my kids after I stopped nursing and it is without doubt superior.

When my babies were born, they got Similac RTF while breastfeeding was established. After they started solids, they got an occasional bottle of Baby's Only. Was it better than Similac? It smelled better, but that doesn't mean that the Similac wasn't good. "Without a doubt superior"? Nope.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All joking and defensiveness aside - yes, European formulas are superior. My older son was put on Nutramigen and no food-product on earth ever smelled worse. It was expensive and all cornstarch based. With my second child, I sis a lot of research and found that Holle and HIPP are far superior to anything made in the US.

Dude. Nutramigen is a hypoallergenic formula for children with milk allergies. Totally different from milk formulas (European AND American).

HIPP is hypoallergenic and doesn't stink or taste horrid.

There's a huge difference between "hypoallergenic" and "safe for babies with milk allergies". HIPP may well be the first but it isn't the second.

How do all the defenders of American formula know it was shipped, stored or not counterfeit? Also how many American formulas are actually made in the US?

I used HIPP for both my kids after I stopped nursing and it is without doubt superior.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All joking and defensiveness aside - yes, European formulas are superior. My older son was put on Nutramigen and no food-product on earth ever smelled worse. It was expensive and all cornstarch based. With my second child, I sis a lot of research and found that Holle and HIPP are far superior to anything made in the US.

Dude. Nutramigen is a hypoallergenic formula for children with milk allergies. Totally different from milk formulas (European AND American).

HIPP is hypoallergenic and doesn't stink or taste horrid.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amino_acid-based_formula

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, everything European is superior.

Born and raised in Switzerland and disagree with this.

Swiss can't recognize sarcasm.


--French

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All joking and defensiveness aside - yes, European formulas are superior. My older son was put on Nutramigen and no food-product on earth ever smelled worse. It was expensive and all cornstarch based. With my second child, I sis a lot of research and found that Holle and HIPP are far superior to anything made in the US.

Dude. Nutramigen is a hypoallergenic formula for children with milk allergies. Totally different from milk formulas (European AND American).

HIPP is hypoallergenic and doesn't stink or taste horrid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about Baby's Only formula? I haven't been in the game for a couple of years --- but I recall it is better than the rest of the US brands.

It’s for toddlers

It's for infants. Also for toddlers, if you don't want to give them cow milk.

Anonymous wrote:What about Baby's Only formula? I haven't been in the game for a couple of years --- but I recall it is better than the rest of the US brands.

It’s for toddlers