Anonymous
Post 02/06/2018 09:31     Subject: Re:Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
Anonymous wrote:I discovered that my DS identified as Hispanic when he signed up with College Board, because he just got invited to a Hispanic Recognition Program based on his PSAT scores. The definition is that you must be 1/4 Hispanic. Specifically the website says, "You must have ancestors from at least one of these countries: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico, Spain, Uruguay, or Venezuela."

Well it is true, that my mom was born and raised in one of these countries until coming here at age 20.

However, I never spoke to him about this and I have always identified myself and my kids as "white." I don't know, but now I am wondering if he can use this to his advantage. Obviously, he must realize there is some advantage because he has done this on his own.
My kids are white and Hispanic.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2018 09:30     Subject: Re:Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
Anonymous wrote:No, because if you get in as a Hispanic the schools then ask you for the documentation to back it up and 1/32nd isn't going to cut it.


What document proves that my kids are hispanic?
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2018 09:29     Subject: Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
Here's a sad story. I know a chinese guy who was born and brought up in panama (3rd generation). He and his kids don't even speak chinese and culturally identify with panama. Guess what, in the US, he's getting bent over for college admissions. He's not a hispanic apparently because where he comes from doesn't matter, but what he is. Politically, socially, economically, he's hispanic. Why should be treated as chinese?

The opposite of this white-collar recent immigrants from Africa. Highly educated, two-parents earning good money, etc. They get all the benefits of being "black" thought they are not disadvantaged in ANY way. Compare them to equally dark-skinned Indians who are again getting bent over for college admissions, etc..

Enuf' said..

OP: Declare yourself hispanic. F**k ethics and this stupid system.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2018 08:28     Subject: Re:Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
I discovered that my DS identified as Hispanic when he signed up with College Board, because he just got invited to a Hispanic Recognition Program based on his PSAT scores. The definition is that you must be 1/4 Hispanic. Specifically the website says, "You must have ancestors from at least one of these countries: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico, Spain, Uruguay, or Venezuela."

Well it is true, that my mom was born and raised in one of these countries until coming here at age 20.

However, I never spoke to him about this and I have always identified myself and my kids as "white." I don't know, but now I am wondering if he can use this to his advantage. Obviously, he must realize there is some advantage because he has done this on his own.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 23:33     Subject: Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
There was just an article about how admissions committees spend less than four minutes looking at your application:
https://www.chronicle.com/article/Reading-an-Application-in/242418

Do you really think that in that limited time they can tell who is making stuff up, lying about their ethnicity, listing clubs that don't exist, awards that don't exist, etc.? Of course not!

I've often wondered how they actually figure out if you're lying about being a first generation college student. My daughter says all the kids that are first generation college goers have done very well in admissions this year.

And given the liberal bias at universities, I think you could probably say that your parents were in the military and the adcomm would assume that meant enlisted and uneducated, since that seems to be their prevailing assumption, even if both your parents were Ivy League educated officers.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 23:31     Subject: Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, every little thing to get an edge.

I know of a college student of Italian descent who claimed Latino/Hispanic on his applications and I'm positive that gave him an edge. He was a solid C student all through HS with ONE suspension for fighting and a few D grades thrown in who is now at UVA. His last name doesn't sound Italian at all, think Johnson, but he has his mother's Italian genes of darker skin and dark hair. He very easily passes the physical test of a Latino at a quick glance.

Why shouldn't someone with actual Latino genes get to declare it???


Italians are not "actual Latinos." The term Latino is used in the US to refer to people with cultural ties to Latin America--not people who descend from relatives in countries with "Latin-" or Romance languages. If you let language groups define Latino, then the French would be Latinos.

There are some myths out there that anyone with Italian heritage is "Latino" because the Italian language is rooted in Latin, but they are not Latino in the sense that US colleges, schools, local and state and federal governments mean "Latino."

And you know that but want to pretend that dark hair and skin are a "physical test of a Latino." There is no such physical test and again I'm pretty sure your cynical self knows that. There are blonde, blue-eyed Latinos. What you're really saying is that students should lie.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 23:26     Subject: Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
Anonymous wrote:I more interested in how you even know that you are 1/32nd Hispanic? How random. Also trying telling someone with a straight face this tomorrow at the office and see what their reaction is.


OP Here, actually it is 1/16th - the great grandfather was Spanish. They look Spanish because of their other mix with Asian.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 23:13     Subject: Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
I more interested in how you even know that you are 1/32nd Hispanic? How random. Also trying telling someone with a straight face this tomorrow at the office and see what their reaction is.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 23:06     Subject: Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
What is preventing anyone from saying they are a race other than their own?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 22:58     Subject: Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you identify as white otherwise? If so, you are a dick. Don't do it.


No half Asian too but would not put that down.


If you are seriously 1/2 Asian and 1/32 Hispanic and want to mark Hispanic, I find it highly unethical.


No ethics is involved. On the census, you self-identify your face and ethnicity and they must accept it.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 22:54     Subject: Re:Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm AA, but am 33% white. I would like to be treated as a white woman. I would like to able to voice my displeasure with something without people assuming I'm an Angry Black Woman. I would like to be able to go to any salon I choose and not have them turn me away. I would like to not be called ghetto if If my subjects and verbs inadvertently disagree. I could go on, but I think you have your answer.


Amen, sister. I am the first poster who mentioned being black, but in fact, I am 40% white, 50% African and about 10% other assorted things (based on known family history plus DNA testing results). I would LOVE me some white privileges. In fact, after years of slave rape, I could probably make a case that I DESERVE them for the sexual atrocities that my still living grandmother bore because of white men exercising their privileges. But, if I go down that road, I am just an Angry Black Woman.

OP, you are a complete dick. If you can't see how wrongheaded and unfair you are being, I've got nothing. But, that's white privilege. You can probably get away with it and still take advantage of all the other privileges you have simply being born white.


White privilege? The OP is half Asian, 1/32 Hispanic with a Hispanic last name.

I'm half Filipino, half Russian and no one ever thinks I'm white.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 21:58     Subject: Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you have a hispanic last name, of course. Even if you are 1/100th..


Yes, we have a Hispanic last name.


Go for it then. The system is absurd so might as well take advantage. I will say though that from all the analysis I've seen on it, the bump for being Hispanic is MUCH less than the bump for being black, so don't get your hopes up too much.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 19:23     Subject: Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
Race is a social construct and self identified.

You can put down whatever you want.

Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 19:19     Subject: Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
Anonymous wrote:Also, 1/32 hispanic means the kid's great, great, great grandparent is Hispanic. You know you are stretching. You know you ain't right. White people suck. You have all the cake. You've eaten all that cake. Now you want to steal the dry bread the minorities get.

Hispanics can be white people so what’s your point?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2018 19:18     Subject: Re:Would you declare Hispanic on Apps if you are only 1/32nd?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, because if you get in as a Hispanic the schools then ask you for the documentation to back it up and 1/32nd isn't going to cut it.


How do you get documentation?


ancestry.com? 23andme?

Lol